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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: Wizzy]
    #14440425 - 05/12/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Just think of all the nasty things they cut weed with (baby laxative, rat poison, meth) do you REALLY want that stuff going into your lungs where your unborn baby will absorb it and come out fucktarded




lullllz

Hi, and welcome to planet Earth. You may notice that we have plants here. Some of them are hearty, largely take care of themselves, and grow everywhere in all sorts of conditions, like weeds. Hence the name, weed. :facepalm:

You probably don't need to worry about pesticides, and chemicals, and definitly don't need to be worried about it being laced. A friend may lace it, but a dealer wont.


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: maug]
    #14440436 - 05/12/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Okay maybe Ill just smoke one pot


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: MotherNaturesSon]
    #14440616 - 05/12/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have never seen a mental health professional but I think I may have some sort of disorder. I have had countless bad experiences with weed, panic attacks, depersonalization lasting months on end. 

I've had similar experiences to what you describe... and it took many full blown panic attacks to realize weed just isn't my thing.

I can still eat mushrooms and feel amazing... but weed just fucks up my thought patterns, fills me with overanalytical thoughts, makes me physically and mentally uncomfortable and usually sparks a panic attack.

It took years of bad experiences with weed to finally just stop smoking it... if you have panic attacks and bad experiences with weed I would stop smoking it altogether. Mushrooms are much kinder to me but ymmv.


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14440640 - 05/12/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I have never seen a mental health professional but I think I may have some sort of disorder. I have had countless bad experiences with weed, panic attacks, depersonalization lasting months on end. 

I've had similar experiences to what you describe... and it took many full blown panic attacks to realize weed just isn't my thing.

I can still eat mushrooms and feel amazing... but weed just fucks up my thought patterns, fills me with overanalytical thoughts, makes me physically and mentally uncomfortable and usually sparks a panic attack.

It took years of bad experiences with weed to finally just stop smoking it... if you have panic attacks and bad experiences with weed I would stop smoking it altogether. Mushrooms are much kinder to me but ymmv.




Thats what I feared... I suppose my abusive pattern has come to give it's consequences :facepalm: were you smoking a lot before, or did you always have this problem with weed? Because if its something you developed like I seem to have- then I suppose I have my first "don't go for it".

Sad, really. It's like breaking up with your girlfriend in a fight and leaving it all on that note, you know what i mean? It just feels so... unfair :bored:

Anyways, I'm very glad to hear that mushrooms are still seemingly alright for a person in my condition :dancer: Mushrooms have been sacred to me- don't know what I'd do if I couldn't trip once every year to summarize my existence and enjoy nature's transcendent glow.. :crazy:


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14441735 - 05/12/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I have never seen a mental health professional but I think I may have some sort of disorder. I have had countless bad experiences with weed, panic attacks, depersonalization lasting months on end. 

I've had similar experiences to what you describe... and it took many full blown panic attacks to realize weed just isn't my thing.

I can still eat mushrooms and feel amazing... but weed just fucks up my thought patterns, fills me with overanalytical thoughts, makes me physically and mentally uncomfortable and usually sparks a panic attack.

It took years of bad experiences with weed to finally just stop smoking it... if you have panic attacks and bad experiences with weed I would stop smoking it altogether. Mushrooms are much kinder to me but ymmv.





Same thing happened to me. I used to smoke everyday for years. Slowly but surely It began to turn on me. Just like you, it took me about 5 or 6 severe panick attacks before I said "enough is enough". On occasion I take one or two rips and still feel good providing it's the right type of nugs.

It kinda sucks when your one of the only people you know that doesn't toke up lol, but it's better than dealing with anxiety and panick attacks.. I'm just glad I can take my psychedelics still.. I'll take 5 hits of acid before I take a few bong rips. :shrug:


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: toader123]
    #14441769 - 05/12/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Subconscious said:
I have never seen a mental health professional but I think I may have some sort of disorder. I have had countless bad experiences with weed, panic attacks, depersonalization lasting months on end. 

I've had similar experiences to what you describe... and it took many full blown panic attacks to realize weed just isn't my thing.

I can still eat mushrooms and feel amazing... but weed just fucks up my thought patterns, fills me with overanalytical thoughts, makes me physically and mentally uncomfortable and usually sparks a panic attack.

It took years of bad experiences with weed to finally just stop smoking it... if you have panic attacks and bad experiences with weed I would stop smoking it altogether. Mushrooms are much kinder to me but ymmv.





Same thing happened to me. I used to smoke everyday for years. Slowly but surely It began to turn on me. Just like you, it took me about 5 or 6 severe panick attacks before I said "enough is enough". On occasion I take one or two rips and still feel good providing it's the right type of nugs.

It kinda sucks when your one of the only people you know that doesn't toke up lol, but it's better than dealing with anxiety and panick attacks.. I'm just glad I can take my psychedelics still.. I'll take 5 hits of acid before I take a few bong rips. :shrug:



This I will never understand.

I smoke bonghits before I have dinner with grandma, or go for a drive.
I eat mushrooms and I feel like I have to turn off my cell phone and lock the doors and hide under the covers.

I have had anxiety attacks after smoking pot too, I know where you're coming from. But the idea that marijuana just totally fucks you up but you feel perfectly comfortable on psychedelics. I just can't relate to. :shrug:

I love smoking pot though.


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: toader123]
    #14441979 - 05/12/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Honestly it's the same deal for me... I trust myself more on solid dose of psychedelics then a few bong rips.

I will be obviously fucked up on 5 grams of mushrooms or 5 hits of acid... but i'll still be clear headed and able to enjoy the experience. Psychedelics just feel lucid

Weed makes me feel hazy, confused, paranoid, and fills me with overwhelming negative thoughts and feelings. All of my friends think i'm crazy for this... but it's good to hear someone else say something along the same lines.

People are just wired differently I guess. :shrug: And yes, I used to smoke daily and enjoyed the shit out of it... but eventually something just changed and now I can't smoke anymore.


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14442027 - 05/12/11 08:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This started happening to me aswell after 2 years of daily smoking weed.
I fixed it by getting more exercise and smoking only a one hitter pack at a time. And also quitting cigarettes.


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: laruta_21]
    #14442256 - 05/12/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Do you exercise at all?


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: thedream]
    #14442408 - 05/12/11 09:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Drinking water helps when i have a weed induced panic attack... i notice there onset when im around people i dont know or and akward situation.. these can be the worst.. i think your problem is your just worried about another panic attack.. just try to forget about it.


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: skiddy]
    #14455125 - 05/15/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Subconscious said:
I have never seen a mental health professional but I think I may have some sort of disorder. I have had countless bad experiences with weed, panic attacks, depersonalization lasting months on end. 

I've had similar experiences to what you describe... and it took many full blown panic attacks to realize weed just isn't my thing.

I can still eat mushrooms and feel amazing... but weed just fucks up my thought patterns, fills me with overanalytical thoughts, makes me physically and mentally uncomfortable and usually sparks a panic attack.

It took years of bad experiences with weed to finally just stop smoking it... if you have panic attacks and bad experiences with weed I would stop smoking it altogether. Mushrooms are much kinder to me but ymmv.





Same thing happened to me. I used to smoke everyday for years. Slowly but surely It began to turn on me. Just like you, it took me about 5 or 6 severe panick attacks before I said "enough is enough". On occasion I take one or two rips and still feel good providing it's the right type of nugs.

It kinda sucks when your one of the only people you know that doesn't toke up lol, but it's better than dealing with anxiety and panick attacks.. I'm just glad I can take my psychedelics still.. I'll take 5 hits of acid before I take a few bong rips. :shrug:




Glad to hear this is not some sort of unique situation I've flung myself into. You said "provided it's the right type of nugs" Do you mean a strain with lower THC concentration and a large amount of CBD? Like a nice couch-locking indica strain or something? Because I do believe the stuff I've been smoking all the time would be some psycho-skunk with high THC levels,maybe even too high. Maybe adjusting the strain to higher CBD concentrations would allow me to smoke without having nasty psychological reactions?

 
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Honestly it's the same deal for me... I trust myself more on solid dose of psychedelics then a few bong rips.

I will be obviously fucked up on 5 grams of mushrooms or 5 hits of acid... but i'll still be clear headed and able to enjoy the experience. Psychedelics just feel lucid

Weed makes me feel hazy, confused, paranoid, and fills me with overwhelming negative thoughts and feelings. All of my friends think i'm crazy for this... but it's good to hear someone else say something along the same lines.

People are just wired differently I guess. :shrug: And yes, I used to smoke daily and enjoyed the shit out of it... but eventually something just changed and now I can't smoke anymore.




I know what you mean. The negativity in the experience is just that you feel so overwhelmed and hazy, your thoughts are racing. That leads to confusion and fear of loss of control. Eventually its gives a spark for a panic attack and negative vibes to erupt whether you'd want to or not. But again, maybe a simple change in strain is in order? Psychedelics like shrooms or acid I've never had a single bad experience with. I've pulled a whitey a few times but ONLY directly after smoking some weed, especially when i already felt fucked up enough, but took a rip anyway out of reflex or the "its weed, why refuse?" factor. It wasn't until a few horrific passing out sensations (sort of a death thing) with intense fears at first that I stopped smoking weed while tripping altogether, except for on the come downs or come ups and even then- the amount would be minimal (a spliff). The thought of smoking weed while tripping always made me feel a little uneasy because the two effects would not always mix well for me. I'd get the feeling of being dragged down as my bodily sensations would get more intense and subside the existential euphoria instead, at some points they'd begin to overwhelm me.

   
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This started happening to me aswell after 2 years of daily smoking weed.
I fixed it by getting more exercise and smoking only a one hitter pack at a time. And also quitting cigarettes.




I don't smoke cigarettes and even so I'd smoke weed with tobacco (from the times when i did smoke cigarettes). Maybe that added to my problem? Smoking pure through a pipe seems much more safe to me now for some reason. I'd always do a one hitter through the bong, but several of them a day. You mean to do a one hitter when i decide to smoke that day entirely? Exercise...? hmmm...

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Do you exercise at all?




Well actually- no. none at all. And I had managed to weaken myself in the past months. Dropped a lot of weight because I was too lazy to eat properly, haven't been sleeping regularly either. My physique was indeed the weakest it had been when it happened. Now I'm getting back on track. But i still don't exercise. Do you see some sort of connection between the situation and not exercising? 

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Drinking water helps when i have a weed induced panic attack... i notice there onset when im around people i dont know or and akward situation.. these can be the worst.. i think your problem is your just worried about another panic attack.. just try to forget about it.




Well as i said, I don't fear panic attacks at all- i know they are harmless and I havent had any for many days now, so i suppose im over it in sobriety. But I fear panic attacks having leeched onto any high or drug use (due to the association between a high and panic caused by the initial experience). For example recently my mates made me drink some vodka because they said I needed to relax some. And i got anxious after drinking it for some reason, the sense of derealization seemed to increase. I don't know,  it may just have been a response to the peer pressure or the fact that i'm doing a drug that I don't like and quit many years ago, as the anxiety was brief and I did enjoy myself later on (but I refused to get drunk).


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"So you believe in intensions?"
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"The goal is to become more child-like, and less child-ish."


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Re: Will it be safe? [Re: MotherNaturesSon]
    #14455653 - 05/15/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I suppose my anxiety disorder has been going through 3 stages:

1 stage- the fear of something being physically wrong with me (elevated with a thorough check up at the hospital)

2 stage- the fear of something being mentally wrong with me (elevated by seeing a psychiatrist).

3 stage- the fear of not being able to enjoy the things I once did with the people I learned to enjoy them with. One of those things being weed.

Any tips on how to elevate the third stage? Because the constant thoughts of "the good times" and how ill never be there again and how I wont bent able to relate to my high friends during a party- its making me anxious. There simply HAS to be a way for me to enjoy pot without freaking out. There has to! I love Marry Jane :sad: I love the times we had and I don't wanna be perma-kicked off her date list xD I mean come on!


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"Im no saint, but I do have genuine intentions."
"So you believe in intensions?"
"No. I believe in being genuine."


"The goal is to become more child-like, and less child-ish."


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