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    #14434825 - 05/11/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i'm doing a cake with b+ and they are coming up in bunches but it seems the bunches have so many in them and they are all trying to grow that none of them can get too big, i've got few aborts but it's weird has anyone any suggestions?


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14434893 - 05/11/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Theres really not much you can do about it now except fan and mist lots and try to get them as big as you can....besides i bet theres lots of new growers that would love to be in your situation :cool:


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14434914 - 05/11/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you put up a picture it would be easier for us to judge just how "weird" it is. I suspect genetics and the fact that you are using BRF cakes--the largest fruit I ever got from my cake was 15 grams wet.

Personally, I am all for smaller and more abundant mushrooms. A handful of small fruits weighing about--oh lets say an eighth--will probably be more potent than one massive fruit weight the same. If I was in your shoes, I would consider it a win as long as they became mature fruit bodies!


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Re: too many growing [Re: RoastedPete]
    #14434973 - 05/11/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lol... no sympathy from me, still working on my first... pics?


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14434993 - 05/11/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: too many growing [Re: Luger0815]
    #14436429 - 05/11/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i'm doing a cake with b+ and they are coming up in bunches but it seems the bunches have so many in them and they are all trying to grow that none of them can get too big, i've got few aborts but it's weird has anyone any suggestions?




Just let them grow....

Once, i also got many pins and i thought the same, but in the end they all got mature.






What tek did you use for those beauties?


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Re: too many growing [Re: RoastedPete]
    #14436505 - 05/11/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Damn, you're saying this like it's a bad thing. If you move on to bulk grows, you'll appreciate having pins over the entire surface and ending up with a canopy.


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Re: too many growing [Re: afrosheen]
    #14436969 - 05/11/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thats not really such a bad thing. tons of pins even though they are smaller will still equal to not as many but goriwng bigger.


besides, isnt a canopy, or lots of frutis waht every grower wants, not to mention generaly smaller fruits can be sometimes considered a little stronger (in genreal)


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Re: too many growing [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14437065 - 05/11/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

IME, more fruits = smaller    less fruits = bigger    But in the end they weigh out about the same. :shrug:


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Re: too many growing [Re: Bstsneverr]
    #14437627 - 05/11/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Generally speaking, if you have 100 big fruits or 200 small fruits, they're delivering the same punch overall, and maybe even weight. However, for my own edification, I'd rather have a substrate absolutely covered in pins than a rich spot and alot of dead zones.

I prefer a shitload of fruits and the aborts they inevitably bring to a handful of monsters. I guess it's just personal preference.


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Re: too many growing [Re: afrosheen]
    #14437667 - 05/11/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've had mushrooms not develop because there were so many. It could have been some other factor I'm not sure not enough misting or something but they just wouldn't get any bigger and there were tons of them.

Picked it clean and the 2nd flush was less plentiful, but still impressive and they all matured.

If they dont grow any over the course of 3 days or so I'd pick them all and try for a 2nd flush.


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Re: too many growing [Re: Luger0815]
    #14437817 - 05/11/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i'm doing a cake with b+ and they are coming up in bunches but it seems the bunches have so many in them and they are all trying to grow that none of them can get too big, i've got few aborts but it's weird has anyone any suggestions?




Just let them grow....

Once, i also got many pins and i thought the same, but in the end they all got mature.





Thats the best flush ive ever seen with a casing, well done. Is that a isolate?


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Re: too many growing [Re: sporesmores420]
    #14437902 - 05/11/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14437924 - 05/11/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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but it seems the bunches have so many in them and they are all trying to grow that none of them can get too big





did you know that a substrate pushes out almost all of its pins at once. and then they each wait their turn to grow.


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Re: too many growing [Re: k00laid]
    #14437979 - 05/11/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Im going to do this with PES H very soon.


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Re: too many growing [Re: skiddy]
    #14438110 - 05/12/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Let us know how it works.


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Re: too many growing [Re: Luger0815]
    #14439927 - 05/12/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i hav'nt got that many i exagarated i guess it's just the one's that have grown are so close they seem not to be able to get big, nway here's a pic, any suggestions they hav'nt grown 4 a few days, so from what some of you said no more will grow for a while they come up in sets, i need to wait till theese are finished nd taken off first.


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14439972 - 05/12/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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worst possible fruiting chamber.

i hope you found it and didnt pay for it...


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Re: too many growing [Re: k00laid]
    #14440125 - 05/12/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

nah it came in the kit i brough they are'nt great i know it's not just that i put that tub in a big clear platic bag that also came with it i just took it out 4 the picture.
why r they so bad the cakes alot smaller.

oh nd if i got a kit like this again in the furute when it's time to fruit should i dig out the verm and put the cake right at the bottom of the chamber so the verm all around it as at the moment a few seem to be trying to grow from underneath.


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14440139 - 05/12/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you just shouldnt buy kits.

take a spore print from that one and you can grow your own for a million times cheaper.


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Re: too many growing [Re: k00laid]
    #14440579 - 05/12/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yea in the future i'll try to do it more properlly but this was my first time nd there is'nt much room where i live right now,
nyway so just in a normal room with an average bulb how long would you leave the light on, can i have them in light too long?
and now you've seen them what do you think will happen to that clump of them do you think any will maybe grow out big at all?


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14440602 - 05/12/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

and i've been told they grow toward the light, but say the where growing in one direction and the you changed the position when the shroom was halh complete would it try and change direction towards the light?
mine seem to be going all over the place is there anything i can do to get them going upwards?


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14441665 - 05/12/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

12/12 light cycle is good.

and sunlight is better than whatever you are lighting your room with.


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Re: too many growing [Re: k00laid]
    #14443857 - 05/13/11 05:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i've allways been told direct sunlight is a big no no for some reason?


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14443872 - 05/13/11 05:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

alot of them are starting to open,so does that mean they won't be getting any bigger?
and after i've taken them off should i flush the cake?

thanks 4 the help by the way.


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14443966 - 05/13/11 06:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i've allways been told direct sunlight is a big no no for some reason?




this is true.

but your sunlight is not as direct as you think. it travels through your glass window.

and then it travels through your plastic tub.

not very direct.

so ill say again.

sunlight is better than whatever you are lighting your bedroom with.


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14443977 - 05/13/11 06:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i've allways been told direct sunlight is a big no no for some reason?





5mins of direct sunlight a day is best for pinning, but indirect sunlight through a window is great for your mushies. 

if your using a cfl bulb try to get as close to 6500K spectrum/color temp as you can. :thumbup:

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alot of them are starting to open,so does that mean they won't be getting any bigger?
and after i've taken them off should i flush the cake?

thanks 4 the help by the way.




if they are opening early that usually a sign of a substrate being too moist/wet.

and the mushrooms you pick all at once is your "flush", I believe your referring to dunking.
but yes, you want to dunk your substrate after each harvest/flush. :thumbup:


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Re: too many growing [Re: 13shrooms]
    #14445058 - 05/13/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

am i right in think once on of them has opened none of them will really grow any more? so once one has opened it's time to harvest?


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14445097 - 05/13/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

one mushroom dropping its spores has NOTHING to do with when another mushroom will drop its spores.


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Re: too many growing [Re: k00laid]
    #14445176 - 05/13/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so i can only really be sure they've stopped growing when the indivually start to open up?
they hav'nt grown for two days now would you guess that's it for them?

but i should still pick them all at once then dunk the cake before waiting for new flush


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14445211 - 05/13/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

doesnt rly matter. you can pick as they mature or you can pick all at once.

its all preference.


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Re: too many growing [Re: sjewitt]
    #14451523 - 05/14/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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sjewitt said:
yea in the future i'll try to do it more properlly but this was my first time nd there is'nt much room where i live right now,
nyway so just in a normal room with an average bulb how long would you leave the light on, can i have them in light too long?
and now you've seen them what do you think will happen to that clump of them do you think any will maybe grow out big at all?




Incandescent lamps are the absolute worst for growing, switch your bulb out with a 23 watt cfl you will seee huge noticeable improvements, i promise.


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