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Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal
    #14434259 - 05/11/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think this is the proper place to post this, correct me if I'm wrong:

http://www.examiner.com/wellness-in-atlanta/obama-signs-legislation-to-make-supplements-and-alternative-health-remedies-illegal

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Right through the back door, while everyone was focused on the gulf oil spill, Barack Obama gave his signature to legislation permitting the U.S. Government to outlaw supplements and alternative health treatments.

That means that the supplements you take and therapies you use to keep your body healthy, can now be made illegal by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

Obama quietly gave permission for Codex Alimentarius - the United Nation's worldwide plan for food standards - to take effect in the U.S. via Executive Order 13544 of June 10, 2010. The President's decision
creates the National Prevention, Health Promotion, and Public Health Council, a group of 'experts' that carry out whatever activities Obama deems appropriate.

According to an article at Rense.com, after five years of fighting this bill in Congress and the House, Obama has decided to try to kill the supplement and alternative health industry; all alternative health remedies can be deemed "unscientific" and not provable by the FDA, which can lead to them being banned.

It means that supplements may have to be removed from sale permanently, or have their potency capped at ultra low levels, making them almost worthless. The very same thing happened in Europe just a few years ago.

Ultimately, this legislation, signed by the very man whose claim to fame was "Change we need" and Change we can believe in" has these effects:

    REMOVES YOUR POWER OF CHOICE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SUPPLEMENTS AND USE ALTERNATE THERAPIES;
   
    STOPS YOU FROM TAKING CARE OF YOUR HEALTH NATURALLY - YOU ARE FORCED TO HAVE TO RELY ON THE MEDICAL / PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIES WHO AIM IS MAXIMUM PROFIT AND FOR YOU TO REMAIN SICK SO THEY CAN KEEP YOU HOOKED ON THEIR PRODUCTS;
   
    WILL FORCE YOU TO RELY ON LOW-STRENGTH, SYNTHETIC SUPPLEMENTS MADE BY PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES;
   
    OR FORCE YOU TO BUY EXPENSIVE, Rx ONLY HI-STRENGTH SYNTHETIC SUPPLEMENTS MADE BY THE $MULTI-BILLION PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES

If you read the executive order it seems quite positive. However, behind the vague words are a wide range of powers to do whatever the United Nations and Obama wants, including the adoption of legislation that bans therapies and supplements.

Did you vote for the president to remove your power of choice? Are you going to sit back and allow this to happen? 




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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: PsillySighBen]
    #14434286 - 05/11/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

for fuck sake :facepalm: the way america had its supplements was perfect.  Say it wasnt backed by the FDA, hinting to do your own research as to what you shove in your body.


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: PsillySighBen]
    #14434319 - 05/11/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Another way to get rid of medical cannabis as well?


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: PsillySighBen] * 1
    #14434328 - 05/11/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Grifterofease said:
correct me if I'm wrong:






consider yourself corrected... unless you can show us where codex
alamentarious outlaws this shit, whether obama signs it or not, it
has to be ratified by congress

this shit has been claimed for several years, bush first, several times, now obama

it's always been a load of shit


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14434347 - 05/11/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That article doesn't say shit...could be either way

Something similar came into force here in Europe this year, and everybody
was bitching on how they where making supplements illegal and all that
bullcrap, turns out they just can't say the supplements treat anything
without solid science backing it up...but what you gonna do...hippies
are gonna be hippies :shrug:


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: PsillySighBen]
    #14434351 - 05/11/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just read the executive order he signed


scare tactics from the conspiracy hounds, this is some shit about obama care
and the part above his signature is specifically state it doesnt constitute
any sort of enforceable law, grant any rights or benefits


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14434369 - 05/11/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Grifterofease said:
correct me if I'm wrong:






consider yourself corrected... unless you can show us where codex
alamentarious outlaws this shit, whether obama signs it or not, it
has to be ratified by congress

this shit has been claimed for several years, bush first, several times, now obama

it's always been a load of shit




I agree it is most likely a load of shit (although at some point it could very well happen), but since when does an executive order require authorization by congress?

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Executive+Order


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14434379 - 05/11/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Believe it or not this may have some good to it. Many herbal capsule companys uses shit ingredients anyway....causing natural healing to get a bad rep and sometimes even providing dangerous ingredients.

Sketchy herbal marketing is one of the reasons Kava was almost banned due to impure product (somtimes not even Kava) being contained in capsules....resulting in serious liver injury. And a variety of other similar issues.

Im not happy about it, but if you want natural healing grow the herbs yourself, or get the herbs in general.



just trying to see an upside a guess :shrug:


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Edited by Almond Flour (05/11/11 11:07 AM)


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Almond Flour]
    #14434491 - 05/11/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck, what will happen to the multi-billion dollar snake oil and false hope companies?


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: ShockValue]
    #14434500 - 05/11/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ShockValue said:
Fuck, what will happen to the multi-billion dollar snake oil and false hope companies?





I know right? Thank god only hardcore, physical and mental altering chemicals with serious side effects used to treat the symptoms of diseases will only be allowed!


:failboat:


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Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:


Edited by Almond Flour (05/11/11 11:43 AM)


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Almond Flour]
    #14434506 - 05/11/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You know what they call Herbal Remedies that have been scientifically proven to work?

...Medicine...


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: PsillySighBen]
    #14434511 - 05/11/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Man, so much hippie hysterics and fear mongering these days... Maybe I'm spending too much time on the shroomery.


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: ShockValue]
    #14434526 - 05/11/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ShockValue said:
You know what they call Herbal Remedies that have been scientifically proven to work?

...Medicine...





You know what they do to Herbal Remedies that have been scientifically proven to work?

Find the active ingredient, extract it, and concentrate it or alter it.....producing medicine :commonsense:


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Almond Flour]
    #14434562 - 05/11/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Herbal said:
Quote:

ShockValue said:
You know what they call Herbal Remedies that have been scientifically proven to work?

...Medicine...





You know what they do to Herbal Remedies that have been scientifically proven to work?

Find the active ingredient, extract it, and concentrate it or alter it.....producing medicine :commonsense:




Yes.  Making it both effective and convenient.


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: ShockValue]
    #14434565 - 05/11/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

ShockValue said:
Quote:

Herbal said:
Quote:

ShockValue said:
You know what they call Herbal Remedies that have been scientifically proven to work?

...Medicine...





You know what they do to Herbal Remedies that have been scientifically proven to work?

Find the active ingredient, extract it, and concentrate it or alter it.....producing medicine :commonsense:




Yes.  Making it both effective and convenient.




Yes. Making it with a bunch of side effects requiring more pills at a price not everyone can afford


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Almond Flour]
    #14434570 - 05/11/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This coming from the person that doesn't believe in evolution and is failing Biology class.  :braindamage:


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: DieCommie]
    #14434578 - 05/11/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

PRAISE JESUS

:rofl2:


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Almond Flour]
    #14434585 - 05/11/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Herbal:  :tinfoil:
ShockValue :lovemeds:


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14434735 - 05/11/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

unam sanctum said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Grifterofease said:
correct me if I'm wrong:






consider yourself corrected... unless you can show us where codex
alamentarious outlaws this shit, whether obama signs it or not, it
has to be ratified by congress

this shit has been claimed for several years, bush first, several times, now obama

it's always been a load of shit




I agree it is most likely a load of shit (although at some point it could very well happen), but since when does an executive order require authorization by congress?

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Executive+Order





EOs do not but to implement codex alamentarious, it would require
ratification and as we can see in the first post, that's what this
thread is about


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Re: Obama signs legislation to make supplements and alternative health remedies illegal [Re: Almond Flour]
    #14434741 - 05/11/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Herbal said:
Believe it or not this may have some good to it. Many herbal capsule companys uses shit ingredients anyway....causing natural healing to get a bad rep and sometimes even providing dangerous ingredients.





except the claims made in the OP and at the link have nothing to do with
what's actually been signed by obama, as much as I hate to defend the guy
he's not done what's he's being accused of


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