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Altered States
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Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users
#14434077 - 05/11/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I came upon a thread the other day which was more or less about this somewhat inexperienced user that was having problems with LSD body load do to the adverse affects of large doses and was wanting some info to curve the unpleasant symptoms. Since there isn't that much information on those symptoms and how to treat them I gave him some "healthy" suggestions that have helped me in the past ie. juices, vitamins, herbs, exercise, no soda,beer,lots of meditation and so on. There were others that suggested Datura!! to this inexperienced user to relive the symptoms of LSD high dose body load, Datura!! I have never herd anything but horror stories when it comes to Datura, including my own mishaps with hells bells. It's almost impossible to measure a accurate dose that wont kill you and if you do get one that doesn't drop you it will more than likely make you sick as a dog or crazy with hallucinations of demons ripping at your soul.Then for expressing my "opinion" mind you, and for giving true to the heart advise, these kids stated calling me faggot, stupid fucker, queer, nigger and so on. I couldn't believe it, the disrespect was just appalling!! I come to this site to talk to intelligent people and to exchange ideas and thoughts in a mature and respectful way, and that happened. And not only that, they felt the need to make fun of the fact that I had lost several of my close brothers do to them using some of these chemicals carelessly and thoughtlessly with bad or no advice on the matter. I was just sickened by the whole experience except for the guy that initially asked for the help, he did thank me for my advise. Has anyone else had a similar experience on this message board?
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434097 - 05/11/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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shr
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434119 - 05/11/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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its the internet what do you expect?
this board is great though, not much of that shit here. at least compared to the other boards im at.
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: shr]
#14434130 - 05/11/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hahahaha Read the description of OTD. Methinks someone should research what they are going to complain about
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: shr]
#14434135 - 05/11/11 09:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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links?
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434184 - 05/11/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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don't knock datura for lsd body load until you try it yourself. it really works wonders.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434221 - 05/11/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OTD (off-topic discussion) is one long joke. You're not picking up on the humor, mostly ironic. That means you become the subject of the humor. The more serious you become, the worse it gets. Suggest you avoid that forum.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: otherwhitemeat]
#14434224 - 05/11/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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latherdome said: OTD (off-topic discussion) is one long joke. You're not picking up on the humor, mostly ironic. That means you become the subject of the humor. The more serious you become, the worse it gets. Suggest you avoid that forum.
I am finding the gremlin suits the OP more and more
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Edited by Cyclohexylamine (05/11/11 10:23 AM)
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: otherwhitemeat]
#14434333 - 05/11/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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tymoteusz3 said: Hahahaha Read the description of OTD. Methinks someone should research what they are going to complain about
Are you referring that to me? Because I know exactly what I'm talking about, I wouldn't state it as a fact if I wasn't sure that it was one.Quote:
latherdome said: OTD (off-topic discussion) is one long joke. You're not picking up on the humor, mostly ironic. That means you become the subject of the humor. The more serious you become, the worse it gets. Suggest you avoid that forum.
So what are you saying it's alright to call someone a nigger and a faggot for expressing there opinion?? And because I cant see the humor in it I'm in the wrong??
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Edited by Altered States (05/11/11 10:56 AM)
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434345 - 05/11/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Altered States said:
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tymoteusz3 said: Hahahaha Read the description of OTD. Methinks someone should research what they are going to complain about
Are you referring that to me? Because i know exactly what I'm talking about, I wouldn't sate it as a fact if I wasn't sure thaQuote:
latherdome said: OTD (off-topic discussion) is one long joke. You're not picking up on the humor, mostly ironic. That means you become the subject of the humor. The more serious you become, the worse it gets. Suggest you avoid that forum.
So what are you saying it's alright to call someone a nigger and a faggot for expressing there opinion?? And because I cant see the humor in it I'm in the wrong??

Like I said, do your research. It clearly states for the OTD forum
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This forum contains content that many will find extremely offensive. Such material includes grotesque imagery, vocal racism, and generally disrespectful behavior. While some of our guidelines are relaxed, we do reserve the right to enforce them at any time. All views are those of their author and are in no way endorsed by the Shroomery.
Also learn to spell.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: masterharf]
#14434376 - 05/11/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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masterharf said: don't knock datura for lsd body load until you try it yourself. it really works wonders.
I will knock Datura in every which way, do to the fact that it is extremely dangerous and sometimes fatal!! I'll never suggest a inexperienced user to do anything that might hurt them in the slightest bit!! NEVER!! No matter how cool other people may think it is. These experiences everyone strives for are not worth dieing over, there just not.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14434420 - 05/11/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I notice the poster who originally recommended Datura and started all this is called "eat my fuck"
Sounds like someone we should take seriously.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
#14434429 - 05/11/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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tymoteusz3 said:
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Altered States said:
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tymoteusz3 said: Hahahaha Read the description of OTD. Methinks someone should research what they are going to complain about
Are you referring that to me? Because i know exactly what I'm talking about, I wouldn't sate it as a fact if I wasn't sure thaQuote:
latherdome said: OTD (off-topic discussion) is one long joke. You're not picking up on the humor, mostly ironic. That means you become the subject of the humor. The more serious you become, the worse it gets. Suggest you avoid that forum.
So what are you saying it's alright to call someone a nigger and a faggot for expressing there opinion?? And because I cant see the humor in it I'm in the wrong??

Like I said, do your research. It clearly states for the OTD forum
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This forum contains content that many will find extremely offensive. Such material includes grotesque imagery, vocal racism, and generally disrespectful behavior. While some of our guidelines are relaxed, we do reserve the right to enforce them at any time. All views are those of their author and are in no way endorsed by the Shroomery.
Also learn to spell.
If you read what I wrote prior to your quote I did actually spell it right, but thanks for your outwardly concern for grammar and your knack for completely missing the whole point of what I've been saying. I don't care how lax that forum is "supposed" to be, there are such things that you just don't joke about, like another persons life and well being. It's not funny when someone genuinely needs help and respectfully asks for it and gets advise that could hurt or kill them. And I don't condone such comments as nigger and faggot thrown at people just for suggesting healthy advise and stating there opinion, allowed or not it's sad and immature. I just expected more from the people on this site is all.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: thecoalman]
#14434434 - 05/11/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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thecoalman said: I notice the poster who originally recommended Datura and started all this is called "eat my fuck"
Sounds like someone we should take seriously.
Thats exactly what I said LOL!! Geez kidz today I tell you what!!
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434439 - 05/11/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OP is clearly underage.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434463 - 05/11/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Altered States said: So what are you saying it's alright to call someone a nigger and a faggot for expressing there opinion?? And because I cant see the humor in it I'm in the wrong??
I'm saying that in a forum consisting almost entirely of smack talk, clearly described as such, you should expect to be mocked for asking or answering sincere, serious questions in a humorless way. Nobody is seriously advocating datura and jenkem and auto-uretic-enemas as a way to deal with psychedelic body load. The OP was mistaken in asking the question there in the first place (unless expecting humorous replies), and you sort of stumbled into the same hole after him. And complaining about what happened in OTD in the The Psychedelic Experience? isn't helping.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434502 - 05/11/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey OP, this is simply a situation of miscommunication and I can totally see how shocking it must have been wonder into OTD unprepared.
See, OTD is a forum designed for trolling: Bad advice, insults, jokes, crudity etc. Kinda like the /b/ of the shroomery. Some people like this kind of behavior, others do not - OTD is specifically there to take all the trolling out of the other forums, without making the shroomery feel like a police state.
As for the rest of the shroomery, many of us take pride in providing accurate and helpful advice and experience to help out our fellow shroomerites. There is the occasional taunt, but that's all in good fun. Any serious rudeness and disrespect is not tolerated and dangerous advice is looked down upon by the community.
The OP of that thread may indeed have been unaware of OTD's purpose just as you were. The appropriate thing to do in that situation is send a gentle PM to the poster in question informing him that if he's looking for "serious" advice he should try posting in tPE or ODD.
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Dawks]
#14434515 - 05/11/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you read what I wrote prior to your quote I did actually spell it right, but thanks for your outwardly concern for grammar and your knack for completely missing the whole point of what I've been saying. I don't care how lax that forum is "supposed" to be, there are such things that you just don't joke about, like another persons life and well being. It's not funny when someone genuinely needs help and respectfully asks for it and gets advise that could hurt or kill them. And I don't condone such comments as nigger and faggot thrown at people just for suggesting healthy advise and stating there opinion, allowed or not it's sad and immature. I just expected more from the people on this site is all.
Bye Bye 
No you simply edited to be correct.
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Edited by Cyclohexylamine (05/11/11 11:50 AM)
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Altered States]
#14434539 - 05/11/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Altered States said: If you read what I wrote prior to your quote I did actually spell it right, but thanks for your outwardly concern for grammar and your knack for completely missing the whole point of what I've been saying. I don't care how lax that forum is "supposed" to be, there are such things that you just don't joke about, like another persons life and well being. It's not funny when someone genuinely needs help and respectfully asks for it and gets advise that could hurt or kill them. And I don't condone such comments as nigger and faggot thrown at people just for suggesting healthy advise and stating there opinion, allowed or not it's sad and immature. I just expected more from the people on this site is all.
dude OTD is nothing but flaming/trolling/shitty advice...that's what it's designed for. If the OP of that thread wanted genuine answers, this would have been the place to post it. You will get nothing serious out of the OTD
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Re: Intentionally disrespectful & dangerous advise for inexperienced users [Re: Anthony917]
#14434707 - 05/11/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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A misunderstanding indeed!! Thanks for clearing some of it up Dawks, Anthony917 and Latherdome. I should of made sure he was asking for genuine help and made it clear to the others. The title question seemed genuine and serious enough though. And I really hope one of these misunderstandings doesn't lead to someone hurting themselves or dieing do to them posting in the wrong thread and getting humorous detrimental advise, how sad would that be.
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