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joemolloy
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: easyrider]
#14433420 - 05/11/11 05:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said: And don't fool yourself into thinking shrooms give you an edge, they give you a retard handicap.
Are you talking from experience?
Years of personal research. I was a certified retard and still retain the ability to spot like-minded rubes.
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joemolloy said: The drugs tend to imprison rather than free. They may open your mind to absolute nonsense but that handicaps you, no? Its counter-intuitive to imagine these drugs as shackles rather than keys.
Do they really? If they were the only instigator of transforming the usual egoistic hedonistic stream of thought into a sort of ascetic style of thinking, then I'd say maybe they do hinder us. But because various people throughout history have abandoned the former stream of thought for the latter without the use of psychedelic substances, then I'd say that psychedelics are not the root of this transformation.
People stumble upon delusion and psychosis on their own too without psychedelics, but that doesn't give these drugs a free pass in the delusion and psychosis department.
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and being successful doesn't preclude being happy. But if you take into account all the ways in which capitalism and all of the ecological and sociological problems that come out of it thrives on the desire that we have to have the stuff that it's trying to sell us, then being "successful" in the conventional sense DOES include screwing the world over
Unfortunately nature is set up in such a way that in order for anything to survive it must use resources and these resources may be eating other animals or killing plants or stealing someone else's sunlight. There really is no moral ground when you must kill in order to survive. Your only option is to commit suicide. Or minimize the damage you cause while maximizing your happiness with the tools you have in the culture where you live.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: joemolloy]
#14433485 - 05/11/11 05:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's the difference with heroin junkies that drop out?
Wouldn't you consider an ant 'dropping out of his colony' to be a retarded specimen?
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: azay]
#14433518 - 05/11/11 06:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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azay said: What's the difference with heroin junkies that drop out?
Wouldn't you consider an ant 'dropping out of his colony' to be a retarded specimen?
What if this ant lived in a huge colony of crazy ants that have a certain image of the world that is flat out wrong , and when this ant is figuring out the reality is different from their view and the best way out is to leave the colony and do his own thing or join another colony? Even more reason to leave the colony is the fact that this certain colony is trying to lock you up in a hole to "protect yourself and everyone around you" while all they do is fuck up the ant's life.
Also heroin is a fucking shit example.. there's a difference between a heroin addict and a psychonaut.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: joemolloy]
#14433521 - 05/11/11 06:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said: People stumble upon delusion and psychosis on their own too without psychedelics, but that doesn't give these drugs a free pass in the delusion and psychosis department.
Well, I interpreted your view as the belief that the psychedelic substances themselves are responsible for this shift in thought pattern. Is this your view, or not? If so, I'd say that they are not the root of the shift, but rather something innate is the real source. Hofmann's quote comes to mind: "It is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be." Granted, it is an oversimplified explanation for this phenomenon, but I think it drives to the main point that psychedelic substances are just catalysts working with our biological/psychological makeup. So, in the same way individuals with predispositions to mental disorders have their illnesses activated or exacerbated upon usage of psychedelic substances, other individuals have predispositions to varying aspects of thought -- in fact, all of us do.
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joemolloy
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: easyrider]
#14433669 - 05/11/11 07:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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joemolloy said: People stumble upon delusion and psychosis on their own too without psychedelics, but that doesn't give these drugs a free pass in the delusion and psychosis department.
Well, I interpreted your view as the belief that the psychedelic substances themselves are responsible for this shift in thought pattern. Is this your view, or not? If so, I'd say that they are not the root of the shift, but rather something innate is the real source. Hofmann's quote comes to mind: "It is just a tool to turn us into what we are supposed to be." Granted, it is an oversimplified explanation for this phenomenon, but I think it drives to the main point that psychedelic substances are just catalysts working with our biological/psychological makeup. So, in the same way individuals with predispositions to mental disorders have their illnesses activated or exacerbated upon usage of psychedelic substances, other individuals have predispositions to varying aspects of thought -- in fact, all of us do.
I believe they are catalysts and the interaction with the individual and these drugs often results in unpredictably wild, anti-social, and superstitious states of mind that may linger after the trip has ended and be expressed in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. If one seeks to distance oneself from the pack of consensus reality dwellers, then psychedelics are the medicine that the shaman recommends.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: joemolloy]
#14433763 - 05/11/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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been there done that, ive convinced my self to even stop puffing buds, let alone selling drugs on some good L.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: skatealex2]
#14433789 - 05/11/11 08:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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stranger_danger said: by game do u mean the rate race? american dream? over achieving? etc...
if so, then yes... the more i dose the more i long to abandon everything and give the vagrant life a shot..... im going to head across country for a few months at the beginning of next yet and see how i like being untied and completely free/wandering the world as i please....
yea i pretty much mean the rat race, achieving hard/over working.......... i don't mean to say being completely lazy but just to drop out of maybe socio-status type of endeavors.
myself i have my games. i want to try to work to make a band at some point but not for social status- just cause itd be cool to work on good music and vibe with people, but i dont care to be famous or something. Quote:
Soluminia said: Ya man I've completely stopped smoking and pill popping after a trip once. But I don't think I can give up pyschadelics
i dont mean to completely stop using drugs either tho this thread can be interpreted however , but ive gotten that too after a trip. once after lsd i wouldnt even have interest to drink even a beer for a long time.
hmmmm
I have smoked cannabis daily for over a decade. I have used psychedelics hundreds of times in the past 5-6 years. over 150 mushrooms experiences, 100+ LSD, 2cI, 2cE, DMT, 4-AcO-DMT, LSA, ectect. In short, these things have been a part of my "game" since the get go...
I have completed a double language major for my BA. I am currently working on a duel masters, so two separate masters in two separate subjects. When I finish with these degree's, I will immediately move to my Phd. I will have my Phd, at this rate, by the time I am 32.
So, to answer your question, no, these substances have absolutely nothing to do with wanting to drop out of "the game". In fact, many of these experiences have pushed me / lead me down the path that I am following. They have done the opposite of what you describe. They have encouraged me to do what I am doing, and given me strength in believing in what I can accomplish. I get incredibly high grades; I spend unbelievable amounts of time in libraries, working, studying, reading, so lots of time away from the substances I use everyday...but I still use them everyday.
Long story short; you, and only you,control these sorts of things in "the game". You can make your habits support what your doing in "the game", or the opposite. Its a matter of knowing what you want to do with your life; maybe you just do not know what you want. Maybe you have not gotten "there" yet, hence your "questioning" state. There is nothing wrong with that either. Some people cannot make these sorts of decisions lightly, hell, some can't even imagine ever having to deal with them.
It is all up to you, though. If substances and standing between you and "the game", that can only be your own fault, and it is something you can change if you want to. You should always believe that substances have no control over you. Your the one with a brain; so YOU make your decisions.
I did not read all the responses in the thread, so sorry if im repeating anything  
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: infectedstyle]
#14433939 - 05/11/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What if this ant lived in a huge colony of crazy ants that have a certain image of the world that is flat out wrong , and when this ant is figuring out the reality is different from their view and the best way out is to leave the colony and do his own thing or join another colony? Even more reason to leave the colony is the fact that this certain colony is trying to lock you up in a hole to "protect yourself and everyone around you" while all they do is fuck up the ant's life.
Also heroin is a fucking shit example.. there's a difference between a heroin addict and a psychonaut.
I think this ant is stupid because it is in his best interest to be part of a colony. Of course, the ant can drop out of the game all it wants. But it cannot expect to be allowed to use the resources of this colony. And that's what it often seems to boils down to with the "drop-out" type of people. They become leeches.
I don't think there's much of a difference between a heroin addict and a psychonaut-that-dropped-out-of-the-game. Being submersed in psychedelics (in the drop-out sense) is a very egocentric lifestyle imo. It's like owning an amusement park and riding rollercoasters all day. I think this acid-dropout idea is the complete opposite of the proclaimed hippie-type universal love. I say embrace your colony and take care of it so it will take care of you. This tension between the colony and the individual exists for all of its members. It's the nature of the game.
Besides, I don't understand why you are so negative about our colony. I think we're doing better than ever. Even when you ignore everything else besides the drugs: imagine being the only acidhead in your village (with all its 'close-minded' (compared to today) people) some 40 years ago.... wouldn't trade it for the present.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: skatealex2]
#14434001 - 05/11/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think psychedelics make the game easier if you can set morals aside. it all depends on how you function i suppose.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: joemolloy]
#14434068 - 05/11/11 09:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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it's definitely an immature and ill conceived perspective to view psychedelic usage and its potential after effects within some sort of dogmatic construct.
just because your personal experience with psychedelics has led to feelings of wanting to drop out, "general retardedness" and the like doesn't mean it effects everyone that way.
time to mature past the relative "safety" found within dogmatic perspectives and realize that drugs effect everyone differently. There are no hard and fast rules to experience.
that whole perspective of "well it happened to me this way, so it must be like this for everyone else" is born more out a desire to feel like your experience is all inclusive rather than exclusive.
it takes the focus off of personal responsibility and places it on a desire to dub all psychedelic experiences essentially "the same". truth of the matter is while there may be some similar side effects it is far to subjective of an experience for any one perspective to encompass the infinite multitude of ways it can and does effect the one consuming the drug.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: gerryjarcia]
#14434793 - 05/11/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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"Use them with care, and use them with respect as to the transformations they can achieve, and you have an extraordinary research tool. Go banging about with a psychedelic drug for a Saturday night turn-on, and you can get into a really bad place, psychologically. Know what you're using, decide just why you're using it, and you can have a rich experience. They're not addictive, and they're certainly not escapist, either, but they're exceptionally valuable tools for understanding the human mind, and how it works." — Alexander Shulgin (Pihkal: A Chemical Love Story)
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LongStrangeTrip said: hmmmm
I have smoked cannabis daily for over a decade. I have used psychedelics hundreds of times in the past 5-6 years. over 150 mushrooms experiences, 100+ LSD, 2cI, 2cE, DMT, 4-AcO-DMT, LSA, ectect. In short, these things have been a part of my "game" since the get go...
I have completed a double language major for my BA. I am currently working on a duel masters, so two separate masters in two separate subjects. When I finish with these degree's, I will immediately move to my Phd. I will have my Phd, at this rate, by the time I am 32.
So, to answer your question, no, these substances have absolutely nothing to do with wanting to drop out of "the game". In fact, many of these experiences have pushed me / lead me down the path that I am following. They have done the opposite of what you describe. They have encouraged me to do what I am doing, and given me strength in believing in what I can accomplish. I get incredibly high grades; I spend unbelievable amounts of time in libraries, working, studying, reading, so lots of time away from the substances I use everyday...but I still use them everyday.
Long story short; you, and only you,control these sorts of things in "the game". You can make your habits support what your doing in "the game", or the opposite. Its a matter of knowing what you want to do with your life; maybe you just do not know what you want. Maybe you have not gotten "there" yet, hence your "questioning" state. There is nothing wrong with that either. Some people cannot make these sorts of decisions lightly, hell, some can't even imagine ever having to deal with them.
It is all up to you, though. If substances and standing between you and "the game", that can only be your own fault, and it is something you can change if you want to. You should always believe that substances have no control over you. Your the one with a brain; so YOU make your decisions.
I did not read all the responses in the thread, so sorry if im repeating anything   
This is exactly what I'm saying. Not everybody loses the will to succeed in society after taking psychedelics. Kinda what I was getting at in my post. Good explanation
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joemolloy
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hmmmm
I have smoked cannabis daily for over a decade. I have used psychedelics hundreds of times in the past 5-6 years. over 150 mushrooms experiences, 100+ LSD, 2cI, 2cE, DMT, 4-AcO-DMT, LSA, ectect. In short, these things have been a part of my "game" since the get go...
I have completed a double language major for my BA. I am currently working on a duel masters, so two separate masters in two separate subjects. When I finish with these degree's, I will immediately move to my Phd. I will have my Phd, at this rate, by the time I am 32.
So, to answer your question, no, these substances have absolutely nothing to do with wanting to drop out of "the game". In fact, many of these experiences have pushed me / lead me down the path that I am following. They have done the opposite of what you describe. They have encouraged me to do what I am doing, and given me strength in believing in what I can accomplish. I get incredibly high grades; I spend unbelievable amounts of time in libraries, working, studying, reading, so lots of time away from the substances I use everyday...but I still use them everyday.
Long story short; you, and only you,control these sorts of things in "the game". You can make your habits support what your doing in "the game", or the opposite. Its a matter of knowing what you want to do with your life; maybe you just do not know what you want. Maybe you have not gotten "there" yet, hence your "questioning" state. There is nothing wrong with that either. Some people cannot make these sorts of decisions lightly, hell, some can't even imagine ever having to deal with them.
It is all up to you, though. If substances and standing between you and "the game", that can only be your own fault, and it is something you can change if you want to. You should always believe that substances have no control over you. Your the one with a brain; so YOU make your decisions.
I did not read all the responses in the thread, so sorry if im repeating anything   
You are lucky. Your internal desires and motivations combined with your drug use did not alter your ability to earn an advanced degree or compel you to drop out. Part of me would congratulate you and another part of me would feel that your reaction to these powerful chemicals was out of your control and luck was the tipping factor in your favor. What if all of your psychedelic adventures gradually eroded your current mindset? Is that possible? You better believe it. Just as you credited these drugs with assisting you in your life, they have the power to fuck it up too.
You are the exception to the rule, most people who delve deeply into drugs, even psychedelics probably live lives that span the spectrum of struggle. Habitual drug use is a prison, even if you experience freedom during your peak.
Internal and external factors lead to one's success or failure and I argue that psychedelics are an external factor that may influence the internal machinery in a fucked up way. You're lucky, brother, and so am I.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: joemolloy]
#14435197 - 05/11/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hmmmm
I have smoked cannabis daily for over a decade. I have used psychedelics hundreds of times in the past 5-6 years. over 150 mushrooms experiences, 100+ LSD, 2cI, 2cE, DMT, 4-AcO-DMT, LSA, ectect. In short, these things have been a part of my "game" since the get go...
I have completed a double language major for my BA. I am currently working on a duel masters, so two separate masters in two separate subjects. When I finish with these degree's, I will immediately move to my Phd. I will have my Phd, at this rate, by the time I am 32.
So, to answer your question, no, these substances have absolutely nothing to do with wanting to drop out of "the game". In fact, many of these experiences have pushed me / lead me down the path that I am following. They have done the opposite of what you describe. They have encouraged me to do what I am doing, and given me strength in believing in what I can accomplish. I get incredibly high grades; I spend unbelievable amounts of time in libraries, working, studying, reading, so lots of time away from the substances I use everyday...but I still use them everyday.
Long story short; you, and only you,control these sorts of things in "the game". You can make your habits support what your doing in "the game", or the opposite. Its a matter of knowing what you want to do with your life; maybe you just do not know what you want. Maybe you have not gotten "there" yet, hence your "questioning" state. There is nothing wrong with that either. Some people cannot make these sorts of decisions lightly, hell, some can't even imagine ever having to deal with them.
It is all up to you, though. If substances and standing between you and "the game", that can only be your own fault, and it is something you can change if you want to. You should always believe that substances have no control over you. Your the one with a brain; so YOU make your decisions.
I did not read all the responses in the thread, so sorry if im repeating anything   
You are lucky. Your internal desires and motivations combined with your drug use did not alter your ability to earn an advanced degree or compel you to drop out. Part of me would congratulate you and another part of me would feel that your reaction to these powerful chemicals was out of your control and luck was the tipping factor in your favor. What if all of your psychedelic adventures gradually eroded your current mindset? Is that possible? You better believe it. Just as you credited these drugs with assisting you in your life, they have the power to fuck it up too.
You are the exception to the rule, most people who delve deeply into drugs, even psychedelics probably live lives that span the spectrum of struggle. Habitual drug use is a prison, even if you experience freedom during your peak.
Internal and external factors lead to one's success or failure and I argue that psychedelics are an external factor that may influence the internal machinery in a fucked up way. You're lucky, brother, and so am I.
I am lucky. But, like one of the above poster's said, I just cannot agree with the idea that there is even a "rule" when it comes to this subject. There is no rule, and I am certainly no exception; I am no different than anyone else, and my success could be had by anyone with a human mind.
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joemolloy
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I am lucky. But, like one of the above poster's said, I just cannot agree with the idea that there is even a "rule" when it comes to this subject. There is no rule, and I am certainly no exception; I am no different than anyone else, and my success could be had by anyone with a human mind.
While there are no hard and fast rules, are there generalizations you can make about long term and frequent users of psychedelic drugs?
If you are honest, you'll say prolonged drug use tends to fuck up rather than enhance lives. How did you buck the trend? The same way I did. I'm a lucky fucker in the sense that internal and external factors resulted in ultimate self-control and I am only part of that equation.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: joemolloy]
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joemolloy said: These drugs scramble your shit. I know you probably think your mind is opened now that you've experienced what psychedelics have to offer, but I argue they actually serve no positive benefit especially when it comes to one's ability to think clearly, insightfully, critically or logically. Hell, one poster on here, strangerdanger, says the more he trips the more he wants to give the vagrant lifestyle a chance. Is that the type of progress and life you want? If so, by all means keep eating the shrooms and let the wind and your psychedelic inspired thoughts lead the way.
Or take a step back and reassess your new ideas with a sober mind.
The drugs tend to imprison rather than free. They may open your mind to absolute nonsense but that handicaps you, no? Its counter-intuitive to imagine these drugs as shackles rather than keys. Ain't that quite a psychedelic thought?
this is why the man considered LSD to be manslaughter. Folks who take it tend to drop out of the game, stop paying taxes and no longer blindly follow the government or strive to improve society. This is not globally inclusive though. If everyone get's their mind blown to the point where it doesnt matter if they do anything and they can just sit on a hill and wait to die as it is the least harmful action nothing will get done, but at the same time we'd be doing the earth a favor.
Psychs improved my thinking and intelligence the first few times I did that. I hate to say it but I think there is some truth buried in the "eat more than 7 and you're insane" myth though it isnt that concrete.
In my current state I am def. a casualty of psychedelics but there isnt much I can do but stop doing them and pursue a field in which insanity is celebrated, something involving more abstract thought and not the mathematical things that no longer make any sense to me.
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joemolloy said: These drugs scramble your shit. I know you probably think your mind is opened now that you've experienced what psychedelics have to offer, but I argue they actually serve no positive benefit especially when it comes to one's ability to think clearly, insightfully, critically or logically. Hell, one poster on here, strangerdanger, says the more he trips the more he wants to give the vagrant lifestyle a chance. Is that the type of progress and life you want? If so, by all means keep eating the shrooms and let the wind and your psychedelic inspired thoughts lead the way.
Or take a step back and reassess your new ideas with a sober mind.
The drugs tend to imprison rather than free. They may open your mind to absolute nonsense but that handicaps you, no? Its counter-intuitive to imagine these drugs as shackles rather than keys. Ain't that quite a psychedelic thought?
this is why the man considered LSD to be manslaughter. Folks who take it tend to drop out of the game, stop paying taxes and no longer blindly follow the government or strive to improve society. This is not globally inclusive though. If everyone get's their mind blown to the point where it doesnt matter if they do anything and they can just sit on a hill and wait to die as it is the least harmful action nothing will get done, but at the same time we'd be doing the earth a favor.
Psychs improved my thinking and intelligence the first few times I did that. I hate to say it but I think there is some truth buried in the "eat more than 7 and you're insane" myth though it isnt that concrete.
In my current state I am def. a casualty of psychedelics but there isnt much I can do but stop doing them and pursue a field in which insanity is celebrated, something involving more abstract thought and not the mathematical things that no longer make any sense to me.
Great post, brother. Abstract thoughts can suck after a while, right? It's a bitch being enlightened. Its even more a bitch realizing you probably never were. We've both stepped forward and that's solid progress.
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Re: Dropping out of most of the game [Re: joemolloy]
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Most of the time I cant remember what happened 6 seconds ago. I recently started a new job and I realized just how spacey and "not there" I really am. I need to do things 10+ times to understand them and learning is difficult at best unless I learn something while Im tripping. Having a normal conversation is impossible.
I think the real bitch about the thing is realizing that you are fucked, will always be fucked, you fucked yourself in the first place, there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it now and then trying to make peace with and accept that.
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dude I'm the same way but you know what I've noticed Sober people space out too,they lose their keys and forget all kinds of shit
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I just space out much less before all the acid.
I know some people are naturally very spaced out and others only act it.
Sometimes Im on the ball. The spacing out isnt all there is to it though.
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