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jpshroomer
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found some more could these be pan subbs also.
#14434062 - 05/11/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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found in the same cow feils as yesterdays finds. spore print is black. some look just like the pics i see of subbs and some look a lil dif. maybe cuase it rained last night and most of them were wet. stems all have same texture and color and have a slight twist in lines. found near trees in woods edge mostly in high grass. i also believe that 1 pic of the mushie by its self is a pan foe. but i also found it growing in dung but gills are def br own ..pls help id.... thanxxx..
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jpshroomer
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: jpshroomer]
#14434075 - 05/11/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ieponumos
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: jpshroomer]
#14434083 - 05/11/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yup
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Ieponumos]
#14434114 - 05/11/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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creationdivine
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#14434419 - 05/11/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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nice finds man! Those look like some dank cinctulus! Cool habitat shots as well! Don't be afraid to eat them all now
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: creationdivine]
#14434430 - 05/11/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure what that other one is but I'm sure it's not Pan.foenisecii.Could be Agrocybe.
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masspan
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#14434579 - 05/11/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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those are looking good 
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ehtdaedlufetarg
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: masspan]
#14434640 - 05/11/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those are them. Nice n chunky, unlike the ones I find.
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The Inner Eye



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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: ehtdaedlufetarg]
#14434938 - 05/11/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like you have some foeniseci or pan. antillarum in the mix there.
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Ieponumos
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: The Inner Eye]
#14434953 - 05/11/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Inner Eye said: Looks like you have some foeniseci or pan. antillarum in the mix there.
I don't see any.
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Oboy
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Ieponumos]
#14435452 - 05/11/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks good to me! Nice findings man. Its gonna rain tomorrow eventually if so maybe i could find some this weekend.
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jpshroomer
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Oboy]
#14436350 - 05/11/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanx for the id's people. it rained all night last night so i had to go in to work late lucky me i had some time on my hands. its funny i do landscaping havent seen any in the sod yet. but this place is a honey hole. 48 acres. ive always found subcubes there but this is a first.. im new to the pan subbe thing but i think i got it now they r not hard to identify..im going back tonight i will try to get some more photos to post.. thanx again every1.....
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The Inner Eye



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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Ieponumos]
#14436358 - 05/11/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ieponumos said:
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The Inner Eye said: Looks like you have some foeniseci or pan. antillarum in the mix there.
I don't see any.
I do.... look at the really pale ones... Cinc's arent white bro. just my 2 cents.
Having said that, I could be wrong. I have just never found any that pale.
Edited by The Inner Eye (05/11/11 06:57 PM)
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jpshroomer
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: jpshroomer]
#14436360 - 05/11/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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jpshroomer said: thanx for the id's people. it rained all night last night so i had to go in to work late lucky me i had some time on my hands. its funny i do landscaping havent seen any in the sod yet. but this place is a honey hole. 48 acres. ive always found subcubes there but this is a first.. im new to the pan subbe thing but i think i got it now they r not hard to identify..im going back tonight i will try to get some more photos to post.. thanx again every1.....
by the way how potent r these once there dry how much should i start with? ive heard they r not that strong ive heard they r so what is it?
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jpshroomer
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: jpshroomer]
#14436375 - 05/11/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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they have a pale dark ring around the caps edges.. like i said it was raining they were wet prob had something to do with the coloring.. i saw some antillarum but i know the dif and they r not those. pan ant are shiny and more dome shaped right?since i came home from work most of them turned pale blue at base of stem im sure now even the pale 1's..
Edited by jpshroomer (05/11/11 06:56 PM)
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The Inner Eye



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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: jpshroomer]
#14436396 - 05/11/11 06:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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No panaeolus has been found to be poisonous. Yea youre right about the Pan. ants, and maybe they are Cinctulus.
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Ieponumos
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: The Inner Eye]
#14436478 - 05/11/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Inner Eye said:
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Ieponumos said:
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The Inner Eye said: Looks like you have some foeniseci or pan. antillarum in the mix there.
I don't see any.
I do.... look at the really pale ones... Cinc's arent white bro. just my 2 cents.
Having said that, I could be wrong. I have just never found any that pale.
The Sun can bleach mushrooms nigh bone white. Also, the stems look too thin for antillarum imo.

A sun-bleached cube. Just
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The Inner Eye



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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Ieponumos]
#14436782 - 05/11/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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On that note... Ive found Cincs under direct sunlight and they have never been white.
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Ieponumos
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: The Inner Eye]
#14436850 - 05/11/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Inner Eye said: On that note... Ive found Cincs under direct sunlight and they have never been white.




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The Inner Eye



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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Ieponumos]
#14437367 - 05/11/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cool man. 
Thanks for the information. 
I understand Cinctulus can vary alot in shape color and thickness. 
I appreciate your 2 cents.
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: The Inner Eye]
#14437381 - 05/11/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Very nice pictures BTW
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jpshroomer
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Ieponumos]
#14437418 - 05/11/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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just got back found some more and some good size ones... i knew i was right i knew the pale ones i have are subbs.. they look just like those pics...
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: jpshroomer]
#14437462 - 05/11/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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so where in the world arre you from jp? and they were found in cow dung? man i never find any in cow shit, only horse shit.
i am heading out this weekend for sure. i want a subb find for 2011.
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: jpshroomer]
#14437467 - 05/11/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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some of those look like cubes brotha
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jpshroomer
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: mylfgur]
#14437505 - 05/11/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i live in south eastern nc got this sweet pasture down the road about 50 acres i usually find cubes there but none yet just these subbs. the weather here has been perfect. rain, hot and humid... there are no cubes there trust me no viels, blackprints, very little bluing at base of stem they r def subbs....imo black anges cows produce all kinds of mushies...i was only gone 2 hours..lol
Edited by jpshroomer (05/11/11 10:23 PM)
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masspan
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Ieponumos]
#14452029 - 05/14/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey leponumos that first pic, those are pan. cincts?
those bluing bases i question, they look like pan cyans to me, or am i wrong?
jpshroomers finds look solid to me here 
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Edited by masspan (05/14/11 03:51 PM)
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CapMeh
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: masspan]
#14456264 - 05/15/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fantastic finds! Those are some very interesting characteristics being displayed 
Oh, and I have found many panaeolus subbalteatus collections that have completely white caps..


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Ieponumos
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: CapMeh]
#14457640 - 05/15/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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masspan said: hey leponumos that first pic, those are pan. cincts?
those bluing bases i question, they look like pan cyans to me, or am i wrong?
jpshroomers finds look solid to me here 

That find was confirmed as Panaeolus cinctulus by Workman.
Here's the link to the mushroomobserver I pulled the jpg from
http://mushroomobserver.org/59962?q=4SXC
The microscopy is all the way down at the bottom.
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masspan
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Re: found some more could these be pan subbs also. [Re: Ieponumos]
#14458027 - 05/15/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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that is some crazy bluing, i love it
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