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Recycling aquarium
    #14433354 - 05/11/11 04:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So my bf has been into aquariums for the last couple of months, he know bought one with about 160 liters, and has another with 56 liters which he wants to sell, I'm thinking of buying it.

I'm not very fond of fish as pets, since they're merely aesthetics, but I searched in the net and was looking to build something which could resemble this:



meanwhile I gave it some more thought and it occurred that I could use it has a terrarium instead, to grow some little fellas.
I think it might have all the right conditions for it, does anyone know?


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14433731 - 05/11/11 07:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I never liked fish and aquariums.  Just not my thing.


Honestly I find it to be kinda lame but I understand why people do it.

I mean, IMO you could spend thousands of dollars on an elaborate fish-tank setup and I'd totally be like "meh".

I'd much rather spend that money on a motorcycle or a dog and a few years worth of food.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Humility]
    #14433739 - 05/11/11 07:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I'd much rather spend that money on a motorcycle or a dog and a few years worth of food.



People could spend thousands of dollars on motorcycles or a dog, but I'd totally be like "meh". Different strokes for different folks :shrug:

I find some aquariums pretty, but I'm not an enthusiast myself. I like the bonsai underwater landscape idea though :thumbup: Or why not just a terrarium with some plants, like a small indoor garden? A lot more forgiving than reptiles, and still quite pretty.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14433771 - 05/11/11 08:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Aquariums are definitely not good fruiting chambers imo. Unless you have glass cutting tools and know how to rig up thangs. It can be done, but is it worth all the trouble? Not really.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Kada]
    #14433776 - 05/11/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

^^^ agreed, better to put plants in it.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Doc_T]
    #14433833 - 05/11/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I was thinking about making it a fruiting chamber for mushrooms I just don't know if it has the right characteristics


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14433835 - 05/11/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You're bf is making you buy it off him?


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14433842 - 05/11/11 08:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I do know, it does not.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Meat_hod]
    #14433872 - 05/11/11 08:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You're bf is making you buy it off him?



Which part of 'I'm thinking' didn't you understand?


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14433893 - 05/11/11 08:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Get the right lights and you should be set. I tried having plants in my tank but my lights are way too weak.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Doc_T]
    #14433898 - 05/11/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

isn't it possible to do some improvements to make it suitable for that? I really would like to get started on mushroom groing and since it has space and right lightening..


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14433908 - 05/11/11 08:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Please listen to me, do not attempt to grow mushrooms in your aquarium.
Much has changed over the years, we know more than we did when people used those.
Trust me, there is no good way to use that for mushrooms.

I'm done here. Pop over to Mush cult if you want to talk about ways you actually can grow mushrooms. :thumbup:


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14433925 - 05/11/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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isn't it possible to do some improvements to make it suitable for that?



No, but a € 5 plastic container will do the job just nicely.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Doc_T]
    #14433931 - 05/11/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

sorry, I didn't even know people used to use them. I was there earlier but haven't searchead enough to find what works good for a fruiting chamber. I'll check it out, I definitely don't wanna be fucking up on this it was just a thought.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14433932 - 05/11/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Listen to doct. He knows what he is talking about. I have used his methods many many times and he is a good source of information for all that is the great and mighty shroom.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Kada]
    #14433957 - 05/11/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

grow moss, find some cool rocks, then add bonsai get a real nice scene going.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: snoot]
    #14436320 - 05/11/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I might be getting some cacti for it :tongue2:
I think it has enough height for a peyote to root.
I thought about aquascaping, it gives an impressive effect but I'm more interested in utilities than decorative.

I've just started to work and am getting my shit together so now I will be able to invest in some entheogens I've been wanting to grow.
The only entheogenic cacti that will fit there are peyote though.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14436419 - 05/11/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

carnivorous plant and poison dart frog vivarium

tarantula

sand gecko's an peyote

just a general indoor garden for plants that you find in your area


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Meat_hod]
    #14436469 - 05/11/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, I don't want imprisoned animals. I'm a big fan of reptiles, specially snakes that's why I like them best in the wild, great advice though, geckos are gorgeous.

I already have a 35 kg dog and she gives me enough work.

I just want an entheogenic plant garden (and some fungi of course).


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Humility]
    #14436513 - 05/11/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I never liked fish and aquariums.  Just not my thing.


Honestly I find it to be kinda lame but I understand why people do it.

I mean, IMO you could spend thousands of dollars on an elaborate fish-tank setup and I'd totally be like "meh".

I'd much rather spend that money on a motorcycle or a dog and a few years worth of food.




Keeping fish for the "look" is totally stupid IMO. If you actually keep things you enjoy watching, such as in my case, eels, invertebrates, crabs, crayfish, shrimp, etc....watching them interact, breed, feed, is really interesting and I can spend a lot of time just observing.

Just filling a tank with random fish you have no real interest in seems like a waste of money, yes....but not all tank setups really need to cost thousands. You can do just fine with freshwater setups under $300 if you can restrain yourself.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14436530 - 05/11/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I remember reading something about cacti *not* doing well in terrariums. Basically they don't have enough soil to root, and you can end up burning them with the lights, there's not enough air exchange, etc. If you do only a cactus tank without reptiles you can fix most of those problems but if you actually do geckos or something living, you'll have to cater to their needs and the cacti may end up stunted or otherwise unhealthy.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: sandi]
    #14436724 - 05/11/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Keeping it for the look is stupid.

Damn freshwater plants was a hobby of mine. It looks so fucking amazing up front. But to get it like that picture, you need halogen lights ($100+ easily) CO2 system(another $100+) plants/driftwood/fish/decorative rocks/gravel ($100+ easily)

But the effects and the designing the tank is alot of fun. I had to design it like underwater landscape, was pretty cool. Most people have never seen a tank like these. They are impressive.







I have an idea... Why dont you put some ferns or other plants in it and a trapdoor spider (takes no work), which you can buy online. You never see the trapdoor spider. But its entertaining watching it pop out when you feed it and watching it dig its hole.


Maybe grow some rare flowers? :shrug:


DONT GROW MUSHROOMS IN IT. BAD IDEA.

You might as well go get some real containers better suited for mushrooms. Or jus go buy some pots for cactus.



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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: dshow]
    #14436760 - 05/11/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As was said planted freswater tanks are expensive and require constant maintenance.


Terrariums on the other hand are very easy and require hardly any maintenance. Heres one of mine. I just let this go I dont do anything except add water and trim it back 3 times a year.



Get yourself some tropical plants and a decent t5 light and they just go wild.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pmb]
    #14436768 - 05/11/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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As was said planted freswater tanks are expensive and require constant maintenance.


Terrariums on the other hand are very easy and require hardly any maintenance. Heres one of mine. I just let this go I dont do anything except add water and trim it back 3 times a year.



Get yourself some tropical plants and a decent t5 light and they just go wild.




good idea. and thats pretty cool :thumbup:

but freshwater tanks take no more maintenance then what your doing, simply add water and cut them back lol..... same shit.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: dshow]
    #14436781 - 05/11/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I had one and I was always battling algae and plant disease.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pmb]
    #14436796 - 05/11/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ok algae, you got me there lol. but the magnet brush made it only take like 2 mins. Did you have one of those? life savers.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: dshow]
    #14436799 - 05/11/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What do you have in that terrarium? jus plants?


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: dshow]
    #14436812 - 05/11/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Just plants right now. Going to get a huge one sometime in the future and get a few poison dart frogs. This ones too small to house anything comfortably.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pmb]
    #14436836 - 05/11/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That would be sick, though they are poisonous in captivity. Or so ive heard.

Maybe down the road you could have like a 2 way thing. ive only seen them in pictures. Where its a terrarium with some reptiles and also a tank with some fish. pretty sweet.


im guessing those take soooooo much work though.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: dshow]
    #14436861 - 05/11/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

They are actually non poisonous in captivity. They are only poisonous because in their natural habitat they eat insects who eat a toxic plant so it transfers to them. They don't produce it naturally.


Way down the road I want to get 3 100g tanks, side by side, I want planted freshwater then saltwater then a terrarium with frogs. That will be very expensive though. I think it will be a good representation of my favorite habitats.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: dshow]
    #14437095 - 05/11/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Keeping it for the look is stupid.

Damn freshwater plants was a hobby of mine. It looks so fucking amazing up front. But to get it like that picture, you need halogen lights ($100+ easily) CO2 system(another $100+) plants/driftwood/fish/decorative rocks/gravel ($100+ easily)

But the effects and the designing the tank is alot of fun. I had to design it like underwater landscape, was pretty cool. Most people have never seen a tank like these. They are impressive.









This is good advice. Planted tanks are arguably more complicated than reef tanks. I've been doing the planted tank thing for years and it takes a shitload of dedication and learning/research to get your tank looking alright.

Here was my old tank when it was close to it's best. I went balls to the wall with this tank (high output T5, 20lb CO2 tank + regulator + bubble counter + diffuser, large assortment of fertilizers, enriched substrate, etc.):



I'd use the tank to do a rainforest set up. Just make sure to buy a glass top to keep in the humidity and bright enough lights to grow plants. Throw some day geckos and/or poison dart frogs in there. You can make a pretty bad ass setup for half the cost of a good planted tank setup.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Gumby]
    #14437187 - 05/11/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ive never tried with a reef tank but i have read into it alot. Soooo expensive but 1 day i will have an amazing reef tank. Ill also prob have 3-4 tanks lol!

I want a reef tank, freshwater plant/fish tank, an ant terrarium, and probably a reptile terrarium.

WOW that is a cool tank, it looks pretty big actually what size is that?
Only if that foreground plants, baby tears or whatever it is grew in.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Gumby]
    #14437379 - 05/11/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wow great pics both of you. :thumbup:


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: dshow]
    #14437637 - 05/11/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Ive never tried with a reef tank but i have read into it alot. Soooo expensive but 1 day i will have an amazing reef tank. Ill also prob have 3-4 tanks lol!

I want a reef tank, freshwater plant/fish tank, an ant terrarium, and probably a reptile terrarium.

WOW that is a cool tank, it looks pretty big actually what size is that?
Only if that foreground plants, baby tears or whatever it is grew in.




That was a 125g tank. I had about 50 different species of plants in there at that time. Foreground plants were Glossostigma elatinoides, Hemianthus callitrichoides, Blyxa japonica, Pogostemon helferi, Dwarf Sag, Red Microsword, Dwarf Hairgrass and a shitload of other plants I can't think of right now. Had a few too many drinks. I'll do the full list of foreground plants tomorrow or the next day.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Gumby]
    #14437653 - 05/11/11 10:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thats pretty incredible. I went to some shops that i could buy alot from. but you seem to have alot of stuff that i doubt i could ever find. 125g tank is large. too many species for my head


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: dshow]
    #14437665 - 05/11/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you go on planted tank forums, most people are willing to send you cuttings of anything you want. A lot of the time you can get them for just the cost of shipping which is cool. Thats how I get a lot of my specialty tropical plants.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14437671 - 05/11/11 10:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You're bf is making you buy it off him?



Which part of 'I'm thinking' didn't you understand?




I still don't get it, why do you have to buy something from your BF?


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Psy Baba]
    #14438759 - 05/12/11 05:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You must be really dumb if you don't understand what thinking means.

Anyway, for now I'm more interested in growing some mushrooms and a few entheogenic plants, if the aquarium isn't proper for any of those I probably won't buy it then since it has no use for now.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pmb]
    #14439384 - 05/12/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If you go on planted tank forums, most people are willing to send you cuttings of anything you want. A lot of the time you can get them for just the cost of shipping which is cool. Thats how I get a lot of my specialty tropical plants.




Yeah that's what I did. That and trading with local hobbyists. I worked at a fish store at the time I had that tank up and running so finding them was easy.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14442189 - 05/12/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You must be really dumb if you don't understand what thinking means.

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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: Psy Baba]
    #14442285 - 05/12/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Re-reading it I see you probably think that since he is my bf he should give it not sell it?
My bad, sorry.

The thing is, he bought it a couple of months ago and is putting it on sale, so that it isn't a total loss.
I started thinking maybe it could be of use for me so I could buy it, instead of someone just interested in a new aquarium.
It has nothing to do with the relationship, it's a business.
He's not "making me", he's selling it, not giving it away.
But I'm the one who didn't understand where you were getting :facepalm: sorry for the answer.


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Re: Recycling aquarium [Re: pouihi]
    #14442939 - 05/12/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ah yes, now understanding has come. :smile:


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