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Re: ARE THESE PAN SUBBS? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #14434239 - 05/11/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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A cow's digestive tract with its 4 stomachs works a bit different and the end result is a fermented pulp



Actually, the byproduct of cow dung is not fermentation, but microbial and enzymatic action of their GI tracts. In fact, one of my biology teachers was talking about using such microbes/enzymes as a basis for an industrial ethanol production process.



Fermentation is the process facilitated by enzymatic activity of microbes in the rumen of cows... so the product is "a fermented pulp"


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Re: ARE THESE PAN SUBBS? [Re: TimmiT]
    #14434391 - 05/11/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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A cow's digestive tract with its 4 stomachs works a bit different and the end result is a fermented pulp



Actually, the byproduct of cow dung is not fermentation, but microbial and enzymatic action of their GI tracts. In fact, one of my biology teachers was talking about using such microbes/enzymes as a basis for an industrial ethanol production process.



Fermentation is the process facilitated by enzymatic activity of microbes in the rumen of cows... so the product is "a fermented pulp"




Thanks for the clarification; this is most definitely a failure on my part. LOL, should have remembered anaerobic metabolisms :huxleyfacepalm:. And when it's fresh, their waste is rather disgusting. Something in the back of my mind told me while I was clicking the submit button "Something isn't right about this post."


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Re: ARE THESE PAN SUBBS? [Re: Ieponumos]
    #14446144 - 05/13/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, its a mixture of cow dung and hay from the stables. They put it on the floor so the cows dont stand directly in their own piss/shit.

And horse dung is a more suited habitat if one is looking for subbs, they just love it. But don't rule out big piles with old cow dung. On this particular one there must have been about 100 specimens.


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Re: ARE THESE PAN SUBBS? [Re: knarkkorven]
    #14465903 - 05/17/11 01:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

From what I have seen subbs just absolutely love cow poo and will grow on that substrate as readily as cubes and blue-meanies though they do like high moisture levels liking it when they are a little sheltered from drying winds. Any notion that they don't like this substrate and may prefer something else I'd find laughable.

Subbs are known to fruit on horsepoo, cowpoo and from grass.
What interests me is whether there are different strains that prefer one particular substrate and won't like the other substrates.
Eg grass-dwellers that don't take too readily to dung and vice versa.
Cowpoo lovers that don't like horsepoo and vice versa.

Of further interest is that if this is so then what happens when they are crossed. The cross may grow half-heartedly on both the substrates or grow very well on both.


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Re: ARE THESE PAN SUBBS? [Re: mycot]
    #14466493 - 05/17/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

have you ever noticed any difference in potency between dung and grass dwelling specimens?


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Re: ARE THESE PAN SUBBS? [Re: tryptonite]
    #14467091 - 05/17/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I never tried lawn cinctulus but I'm pretty sure ones found in dung are more potent.I have felt good affects with as little as 3gms dried.:tripping2:


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Re: ARE THESE PAN SUBBS? [Re: tryptonite]
    #14471651 - 05/18/11 03:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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have you ever noticed any difference in potency between dung and grass dwelling specimens?



For a light dose 4 dried grams is good. The ones that grew in dung were good to very good in terms of biomass and size. The grass-dwellers that I've come across were smaller skinny shrooms of much smaller biomass that I never came across in such numbers as to make bioassay practical.


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