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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Salomon]
    #14427770 - 05/10/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

research lol...maybe if u're tryin 2 get pure mescaline

resin, which can yield some very pretty xtals, goes like this:

1. cut cacti up into small chunks
2. simmer for 4-8 hours
3. gather liquid evap scrape & capsulate

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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Salomon]
    #14427781 - 05/10/11 12:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's definitely not hard if you've done an A/B before.

I've actually never taken the time to make crystal, I always boil my dose down to 2-4 oz's of liquid. Honestly the more feet I take, the better it seems to get.
I just sit don't move for a good 30 minutes to an hour after drinking the dose and that's helped me never throw up, along with dieting, and possibly my bodies natural reaction. I imagine purging on mescaline would be an experience in itself, so I wouldn't really fight it from happening; I just can't move while my body is processing the heavy brew


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: learningtofly]
    #14427784 - 05/10/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I just eat the raw powder pressed/rolled into balls with the use of water

I imagine cooking it reduces the volume that you need to eat?  For me cactus/mescaline is either 100% or 0%.  I'm either going to do a full A/B and get some pretty white crystals (which taste like the asshole of the devil himself) or I'm going to go native and do without any cooking at all (such as with dried peyote buttons).

Hope you have fun pal :smile:.  At first I thought you were cooking cannabutter as well.



why would you taste the crystals have you ever heard of gel capsules?





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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Salomon]
    #14427788 - 05/10/11 12:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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alright, maybe it's the head games that are messin with me, but you've inspired me to get my ass some cacti and make some delicious crystals



research starts tomorow:awehigh:




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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Remix]
    #14432110 - 05/10/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just finished straining the first boil a couple hours ago.




Onto the second one tonight. :ashstrobe:


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Remix]
    #14432176 - 05/10/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Wooo!!!  Well done, it's looking good!


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14432510 - 05/10/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would recommend just drinking the liquid.
Drink nothing but water for the few hours before hand. Grapes have never caused problems for me before drinking the concoction.
Drink your entire dose as fast as conceivably possible, and immediately after drinking it, have a large fruit to bite into, like a strawberry, or kiwi, or orange.
I'd personally recommend sitting down and chilling for at least a good 30 minutes, to let your body process the cactus.


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14432565 - 05/10/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

After a few pulls, once I've strained out all the goodies, I'm likely going to evaporate the liquid and consume the leftover resin.

I typically avoid liquid extracts. They're harder for me to keep down.


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14432594 - 05/10/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I would recommend just drinking the liquid.
Drink nothing but water for the few hours before hand. Grapes have never caused problems for me before drinking the concoction.
Drink your entire dose as fast as conceivably possible, and immediately after drinking it, have a large fruit to bite into, like a strawberry, or kiwi, or orange.
I'd personally recommend sitting down and chilling for at least a good 30 minutes, to let your body process the cactus.






I don't know how much liquid you usually end up with but I always drink my dose slowly, over a 30 to 45 minute period. I take a few gulps every 5 to 10 minutes and chase it with beer or orange juice. The tea is so bitter that chasing it with beer makes the beer taste very sweet (and the little bit of alcohol helps absorption)...Any fruit is great as you suggested.


But yea, I always find somewhere to sit and keep movement to a minimum for that first hour haha, all my friends do this also. A little bit of ginger root and cannabis is good for calming the stomach as well. Once I hit the 60 to 90 minute mark I'm good to go, never purged my self but have witnessed others purging right around the 2 hour mark when things start to really kick....




Everyone seems to have their own methods that work for them.




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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: openmind]
    #14432631 - 05/10/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I try to boil my dose down to under 5oz's of liquid. 2oz's if it's a smaller dose.
It's usually almost a foot per fluid oz.


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14432644 - 05/10/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Though, I once chugged an entire party cup of cactus brew.
It definitely wasn't easy, but I was damn glad to have the process finished with.

That was probably the closest I ever came to purging. I ended up jumping into a lake, and as soon as I was submerged in the water, my nausea was washed away; and I felt clean and pure.

Mescaline is just too fucking awesome :aweoverdose:


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14432758 - 05/10/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Damn that's a lot of reducing, that's nice though :thumbup:...


....Then again the times I've brewed tea it's always been for several heads, so anywhere from 3 to 15 feet of cacti at a time. It's a lengthy process and I always end up being the brew master as I want to make sure it turns out nicely with out being cooked to hot (I never let it get much hotter than a light simmer). The first few times I brewed tea I did not reduce it enough, far too much liquid, I'm talking at least 3 to 4 full "party cups" worth of tea for a single dose. I definitely felt it but damn that was a lot of liquid...


Now I'll get a single dose down to about a party cups worth, maybe a tad bit more...And that's 2 to 3 feet of cacti.



Agreed mescaline is awesome :yesnod:, all this talk about it makes me want to brew some for this weekend since I'm going to my first festival of this spring. Normally mescaline is a staple during festival weekends, I damn near always bring some along but figured I would skip it this time around and save my receptors for LSD and MDA :smirk:.....



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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: openmind]
    #14432781 - 05/10/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I damn near always bring some along but figured I would skip it this time around and save my receptors for LSD and MDA :smirk:.....




You could always be hardcore do them all. :awecid:


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Remix]
    #14432808 - 05/11/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm certainly interested in seeing how the cacti experience compares to it being combined with an MAOI.




It works great IME. I've tripped for 16 hours off as little as 1 dried ounce.

I only combine MAOi w/Pedro and Torch, though. Bridgesii is already strong-enough on its own.



how is bridgesii stonger?  :hmm:  are you saying in 'spirt' or actual mesc. content


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Remix]
    #14432824 - 05/11/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I damn near always bring some along but figured I would skip it this time around and save my receptors for LSD and MDA :smirk:.....




You could always be hardcore do them all. :awecid:






Haha, I've definitely been there done that, and some more on top of that....After experiencing the combination of various psychedelics several times, I find it to be a big waste. Everything turns into a cloudy psychedelic soup and the receptors are numbed quickly.


I enjoy the experience of a single chemical or the synergy of two (LSD/MDMA) more so than combining a bunch of things.  If I want to get a bit higher I'll simply take more of one certain chemical...I'm trying to take it easy (relatively :smirk:) at festivals & camp outs now, and be more involved in the social & community aspect through out the 4 days.






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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: lifeinallday]
    #14432833 - 05/11/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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how is bridgesii stonger?  :hmm:  are you saying in 'spirt' or actual mesc. content




"Stronger" as in you need less material for a more intense experience.

There may or may not be more mescaline. I don't know for sure. I also suspect it has an alkaloid profile that makes the experience qualitatively different than Pedro and Torch.

The increased strength could also be attributed to the MAOi already present in it. But SP and PT could very well have MAOi, too. There really hasn't been a ton of research done on the subject.

Mind you, a lot of this info is speculative. It comes from a bunch of different sources ranging from forums, websites and books that I've come across. I'm no distinct authority on the matter.


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: lifeinallday]
    #14432834 - 05/11/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm certainly interested in seeing how the cacti experience compares to it being combined with an MAOI.




It works great IME. I've tripped for 16 hours off as little as 1 dried ounce.

I only combine MAOi w/Pedro and Torch, though. Bridgesii is already strong-enough on its own.



how is bridgesii stonger?  :hmm:  are you saying in 'spirt' or actual mesc. content






I've heard Bridgesii does have a some what higher mescaline concentration, along with a much broader spectrum of active alkaloids which supposedly includes an MAOI.


I've heard some compare it to peyote more so than say Pedro or Torch.



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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: openmind]
    #14432840 - 05/11/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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....Then again the times I've brewed tea it's always been for several heads, so anywhere from 3 to 15 feet of cacti at a time. It's a lengthy process and I always end up being the brew master as I want to make sure it turns out nicely with out being cooked to hot (I never let it get much hotter than a light simmer).



Most of my mescaline experiences have been almost identical. I've always been the "brew master".
Largest batch I brewed was 25 feet. I had a big industrial sized pot that I used to cook it with, and it took two full days.
I know when the brew is finished cooking when all that is left is a very thin layer of liquid on the bottom of the pot.


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #14433444 - 05/11/11 05:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

all this talk about mescaline makes me want to vomit.

And then start feeling  :awecid:


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Re: Cookin' Up Droogz [Re: Humility]
    #14433470 - 05/11/11 05:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I wish I would've ignored remix like a month ago. Now I know he's not stupid and it feels bad man :sad:


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