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A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram.
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Hes in North Texas, where shrooms are as scarce as acid. He can't keep up with all the demand and only has so much to sell, college kids are willing to pay for them since its like finding gold in a sandbox for them. Simple supply and demand, anything wrong with that?
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: TheCreampie] 1
#14431543 - 05/10/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nope. 
I would probably try to find a different source, but if people are willing then more power to him.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: NetDiver]
#14431570 - 05/10/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know but I wouldn't want to get busted with a shroom grow in TX. They don't fuck around down there when it comes to jail time.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Cups]
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1.that's twice as much as what i would consider a rip-off, i don't care what the circumstances are
2.they grow wild in texas, maybe not your part, but i doubt they're far
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: NetDiver]
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I live in North Texas and can say from personal experience that I DO MY PART. Prices in North Texas are no more than $10.00 a gram. I personally know 3 cultivators here on the Shroomery that live up here in North Texas that are helping keep those prices down. Mushrooms ARE NOT SCARCE here I assure you. If people are paying that kind of money..... They are getting raped. I hope your friend isn't paying more than 1G for an elbow.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: NetDiver]
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Samurai Drifter said: but if people are willing then more power to him.
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#14431604 - 05/10/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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tay_ste_5000 said: i don't care what the circumstances are
And that is why you fail, grasshopper. 
Circumstances dictate everything; the market dictates the prices.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: The shroomy 1]
#14431615 - 05/10/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The shroomy 1 said: Prices in North Texas are no more than $10.00 a gram.
That's the norm here but they don't grow wild...
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: tay_ste_5000]
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25 dollars is a fair price for a trip (3-3.5grams cubensis) but you don't even get a hint of visuals off a gram of Cubensis. I don't see anything wrong with it, it's just crappy that you have to pay seventy five dollars for a good trip.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: tay_ste_5000]
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1.that's twice as much as what i would consider a rip-off
We go through this nonsense once a year here. A rip-off is either not delivering the goods or misrepresenting them as something else.
A mutually-agreed upon price does not fit the definition.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: iamnotadream]
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iamnotadream said: 25 dollars is a fair price for a trip (3-3.5grams cubensis) but you don't even get a hint of visuals off a gram of Cubensis. I don't see anything wrong with it, it's just crappy that you have to pay seventy five dollars for a good trip.
Are they even good?
If you want to trip balls then you buy an 1/8 and consume 3.5 gms You should not pay more than $35.00 for an 1/8. Are they good? Hell yea!
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: The shroomy 1]
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Right. 35 is the max anyone should pay for a decent trip. 25 dollars is just right though, where the customer has enough money for other things and the dealer makes a fair bit of profit.
Paying 75 dollars for an eighth is too much for what its worth. You can put that money to better things, like oh I don't know, a tub, perlite, brf, jars, spore syringe, vermiculite, and a few beers.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: iamnotadream]
#14431961 - 05/10/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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selling shrooms isn't exactly safe considering the jail time if caught dealing. $25 isn't so bad for such a serious transaction.....
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: iamnotadream]
#14431965 - 05/10/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Price God has spoken!
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: iamnotadream]
#14431984 - 05/10/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It makes me laugh when I hear "they should be cheap here because they grow wild" Shrooms in the wild could never keep up with domestic demand,just think of the thousands of people that trip everyday and how many pounds that would be I can't keep up with it and I'm just one of many many who cultivate
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: steelmonkey]
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: the bizzle]
#14432171 - 05/10/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've always been amazed at how fast the shroomery gets indexed by google.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: the bizzle]
#14432195 - 05/10/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol you do that not even i would be stupid enough to be actually growing and post it on here
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: steelmonkey]
#14432357 - 05/10/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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People who want to trip a few times but aren't necessarily too in to drugs tend to go for shrooms.
It's funny because I actually consider psilocin/psilocybin to be one of the more difficult to handle psychedelics. Kind of like those poor souls who try salvia as their first drug- salvia is like the DARE program in 'ready-to-smoke' form.
I digress though.. really $25 is a fair enough price. If people want a better deal they can surely find one. The fact is most people don't trip enough or really want to trip enough to even care about prices like that. Unlike weed or coke where people may purchase 10+ dosage units a week...
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Jeerix]
#14432402 - 05/10/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good point its been atleast 5 years since I tripped on shrooms and it made me feel really uncomfortable so I just don't do them anymore and it has to be atleast 10 plus years since i've even smoked
come to think of it I can't even remember a friend thats tripped on shrooms lately and I mean a couple years
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: steelmonkey]
#14432434 - 05/10/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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steelmonkey said: It makes me laugh when I hear "they should be cheap here because they grow wild" Shrooms in the wild could never keep up with domestic demand,just think of the thousands of people that trip everyday and how many pounds that would be I can't keep up with it and I'm just one of many many who cultivate
Well 90% of people who want mushrooms are usually young, stoned, and too lazy or paranoid to go out to the fields anyway, and the mushrooms are either picked by people who are ahead of the game or are not picked at all. Just my theory
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: iamnotadream]
#14432513 - 05/10/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your probally right on that count I agree but I still find it hard to believe wild growing shrooms could ever supply the demand
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: the bizzle]
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: iamnotadream]
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steelmonkey said: It makes me laugh when I hear "they should be cheap here because they grow wild" Shrooms in the wild could never keep up with domestic demand,just think of the thousands of people that trip everyday and how many pounds that would be I can't keep up with it and I'm just one of many many who cultivate
Well 90% of people who want mushrooms are usually young, stoned, and too lazy or paranoid to go out to the fields anyway, and the mushrooms are either picked by people who are ahead of the game or are not picked at all. Just my theory
I wouldn't be so quick to make that judgement. There is a supply and demand. North Texas definitely has a demand that needs to be met. It needs to be cultivated to meet that demand. Who does is is none of my business.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14438019 - 05/11/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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1.that's twice as much as what i would consider a rip-off
We go through this nonsense once a year here. A rip-off is either not delivering the goods or misrepresenting them as something else.
A mutually-agreed upon price does not fit the definition.
Which definition are you using?
A ripoff (or rip-off) is a bad financial transaction. Usually it refers to an incident in which a person overpays for something.
He seems to be using the term correctly, according to this definition.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid] 1
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*sigh*
How can one OVERPAY when the price is mutually agreed upon?
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said: *sigh*
How can one OVERPAY when the price is mutually agreed upon?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/overpay
"to pay (someone) at too high a rate"
Even if you agree to pay the price named it doesn't make that price fair or equal to what it is worth. Paying over what something is worth constitutes overpaying to me.
Regardless of what a dictionary says language is simply a way to get a point across. We all know that this person is talking about a deal in which they are paying more than they would in an ideal situation. Arguing about whether he should have used one word or another is a giant waste of time when we understand the person(the purpose of language).
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth. An example would be if I bought a beer at a liquor store, then found the same beer in a different liquor store but for half the price; in this scenario, the first store ripped me off (even though the price of the beer was mutually agreed upon), the beer I bought from it was a ripoff.
Please provide a source for to back up your definition of "rip-off".
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Halsfield]
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Even if you agree to pay the price named it doesn't make that price fair or equal to what it is worth.
Where is the objective list of fair prices and how do I find it?
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid] 2
#14438245 - 05/12/11 01:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth
Really? So you can buy a six pack of beer at a convenience store a block away or drive 10 miles and 'save' fifty cents. Perhaps if you fly to Manila, you can get a six pack for $1.50.
So you are truly defining a rip-off as a price > than the lowest price in the world or what?
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Is $10 million for a genuine Van Gogh a rip-off or not? Yes or no, please.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth
Really? So you can buy a six pack of beer at a convenience store a block away or drive 10 miles and 'save' fifty cents.
That wouldn't really be a ripoff IMO, a ripoff is something sold at a significantly higher price than it is worth.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Perhaps if you fly to Manila, you can get a six pack for $1.50.
If I buy a six-pack at a liquor store in Manila for $1.50, then find another liquor store in town that sells the same six-pack for 75¢, then the six-pack I bought would be a ripoff.
If you can get a six-pack of beer for $1.50 in Manila, then beer in the US is a ripoff.
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OrgoneConclusion said: So you are truly defining a rip-off as a price > than the lowest price in the world or what?
I would say it's a price > than the lowest price available.
Still waiting on the source for your definition.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Is $10 million for a genuine Van Gogh a rip-off or not? Yes or no, please.
If it's worth that much (or more), then no, it's not a ripoff; if it's worth substantially less than that, then it is a ripoff.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid] 1
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Poid said: Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth.
If the price is mutually agreed upon, then isn't the buyer essentially saying that the product is worth whatever he's paying?
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Of course, but Parrot-head (and others) keeps pretending there is some objective value written down somewhere.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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You do know there is such a thing as an art appraiser? Guess what their job is? "Art appraisal is the process of evaluating the quality, condition, rarity, provenance and source of a particular piece of art in order to establish its value."
Let's also talk fair market value - "is an estimate of the market value of a property, based on what a knowledgeable, willing, and unpressured buyer would probably pay to a knowledgeable, willing, and unpressured seller"
There are values written down somewhere for some items. For all items there is an inherently fair value based on how much it cost to manufacture, how much it cost to bring it to the location it is being sold at, how much of the same item is being sold in the same area, and how much of a markup the seller is using to make a profit. If someone paid $1million for a van gogh painting that was valued by art appraisers at $10million he would have gotten a deal. If he paid $20million he would have paid over its stated value which is one of the definitions of a ripoff. Of course these values change and can change fast based on the market, but they still have a value that can be stated if you know the above info(expenses, profit, etc).
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
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I would say it's a price > than the lowest price available.
Still waiting on the source for your definition.
In this case, paying even $2 for them could be considered a rip-off, since one can find them for free in nature. Everything in more than something and less than something else. The fact that those people choose to pay the price, no matter how much that would be, implies the fact that they decided that, considering the circumstance, they made the choice that was most convenient to them. How can it be both most convenient and a rip-off? Care to explain this strange process?
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said: Where is the objective list of fair prices and how do I find it?
Yeah, especially the one for illegal drugs.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: MushroomTrip]
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Poid said: Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth.
If the price is mutually agreed upon, then isn't the buyer essentially saying that the product is worth whatever he's paying?
Not necessarily..it's possible to knowingly pay for more than something is worth.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Of course, but Parrot-head (and others) keeps pretending there is some objective value written down somewhere.
Nice straw man, I never said that; you refuse to accept the definition I posted, and also refuse to provide a source for your own. 
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I would say it's a price > than the lowest price available.
Still waiting on the source for your definition.
In this case, paying even $2 for them could be considered a rip-off, since one can find them for free in nature.
I can find beer for free in nature? Where? 
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MushroomTrip said: How can it be both most convenient and a rip-off? Care to explain this strange process? 
Say I am close to a liquor store that sells beer for twice as much as a liquor store 5 miles away sells it..I don't have a bike or a car, so the most convenient thing for me to do would be to buy the more expensive beer (which is a ripoff compared to the beer at the farther liquor store).
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
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I can find beer for free in nature? Where?
I don't know about beer for free. I do know you can find fruit in nature for free, (or on your property). Then you can buy sugar, lemons, and yeast on sale at the grocery store. Then you can make a large batch of your own wine for as little as a nickel per glass. You also avoid the sales tax on liquor.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: HippieChick8]
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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HippieChick8 said: I can find beer for free in nature? Where?
I don't know about beer for free. I do know you can find fruit in nature for free, (or on your property). Then you can buy sugar, lemons, and yeast on sale at the grocery store. Then you can make a large batch of your own wine for as little as a nickel per glass. You also avoid the sales tax on liquor. 
I tried a friend's homemade wine once..it gave me diarrhea. 
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OrgoneConclusion said: You are such a rebel! 
I still believe Wikipedia's definition of 'ripoff' more than I believe yours.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
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And yet you are unable to come up with an objective measurement for value in order to determine what a rip-off is. My definition is very clear.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440647 - 05/12/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: And yet you are unable to come up with an objective measurement for value in order to determine what a rip-off is.
I don't need to, the definition of 'ripoff' has nothing to do with an objective measurement of value; value is relative, and so are ripoffs.
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OrgoneConclusion said: My definition is very clear.
True, but that doesn't mean it's correct, or backed up any source.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440673 - 05/12/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't need to, the definition of 'ripoff' has nothing to do with an objective measurement of value; value is relative, and so are ripoffs.
And I used to respect you...
Do you know the EXACT markup of beer in a mom & pop store vs. Walmart?
rip-off: act of being dishonestly treated: an act or example of being cheated or tricked
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440723 - 05/12/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't need to, the definition of 'ripoff' has nothing to do with an objective measurement of value; value is relative, and so are ripoffs.
And I used to respect you...
So you don't respect me now because we have a little disagreement? 
If this causes you to disrespect me, then I'm forced to wonder whether you ever even had any respect for me at all. 
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OrgoneConclusion said: Do you know the EXACT markup of beer in a mom & pop store vs. Walmart?
I do not..what's your point?
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OrgoneConclusion said: rip-off: act of being dishonestly treated: an act or example of being cheated or tricked
Link? Here are two definitions (both with links):
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A ripoff (or rip-off) is a bad financial transaction. Usually it refers to an incident in which a person overpays for something. A ripoff is distinguished from a scam in that a scam involves wrongdoing such as fraud; whether or not something is a ripoff, on the other hand, is a matter of opinion.
Like I said, ripoffs are relative, whether something is a ripoff or not is a matter of opinion.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440746 - 05/12/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I do not..what's your point?
The vendor with the cheaper beer might have a bigger mark-up; therefore ripping you off more than the more expensive beer.
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So you don't respect me now because we have a little disagreement?
No, because you believe in something that you cannot accurately determine.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440790 - 05/12/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: The vendor with the cheaper beer might have a bigger mark-up; therefore ripping you off more than the more expensive beer.
True..I thought you were arguing that that wouldn't be considered a ripoff, now you're saying that the cheaper liquor store is ripping me off more than the more expensive one. It's not like it either has to be one or the other, both the expensive and the cheap liquor store can rip me off.
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So you don't respect me now because we have a little disagreement?
No, because you believe in something that you cannot accurately determine.
What do you mean? I believe in the definitions I posted; I already told you that I don't believe in an objective measurement for value, and that one isn't necessary in order to be ripped off. Again, whether or not something is a ripoff is a matter of opinion; there is no such thing as a "right" or "wrong" opinion.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440822 - 05/12/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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True..I thought you were arguing that that wouldn't be considered a ripoff, now you're saying that the cheaper liquor store is ripping me off more than the more expensive one. It's not like it either has to be one or the other, both the expensive and the cheap liquor store can rip me off.
I was using YOUR definition to show how totally useless it is. There are NO metrics for a rip-off according to your definition.
If I sell you psilcyobin mushrooms and they are another non-psychoactive species of mushroom, then I have ripped you off. If I tell you the baggie contains 3.5 oz and it contains 2.5 oz then I have ripped you off.
Where does opinion come into play here?
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440841 - 05/12/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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True..I thought you were arguing that that wouldn't be considered a ripoff, now you're saying that the cheaper liquor store is ripping me off more than the more expensive one. It's not like it either has to be one or the other, both the expensive and the cheap liquor store can rip me off.
I was using YOUR definition to show how totally useless it is. There are NO metrics for a rip-off according to your definition.
That's because what is considered a ripoff is a matter of opinion; there are no metrics for the coolness of colors, yet mostly everybody thinks some colors are cooler than others. 
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OrgoneConclusion said: If I sell you psilcyobin mushrooms and they are another non-psychoactive species of mushroom, then I have ripped you off. If I tell you the baggie contains 3.5 oz and it contains 2.5 oz then I have ripped you off.
Where does opinion come into play here?
For the non-psychoactive mushrooms, my opinion that you sold me a bad product comes into play. For the 2.5 oz, my opinion that you sold me a small amount comes into play.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440877 - 05/12/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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And the repect level just dropped another two points.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440881 - 05/12/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why? 
I'd like to know what's incorrect about what I'm saying..I'm here to learn.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440894 - 05/12/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Brown is the coolest color.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440918 - 05/12/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can get an 8th of azurescens here where i live for 30 bucks.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440922 - 05/12/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Please fill in the blanks:
_ _ _ _ _ _ haze all through my brain. ~ Jimi
'The Color _ _ _ _ _ _' with Oprah Winfrey
'Smoke on the Water by Deep _ _ _ _ _ _
Prince's movie '_ _ _ _ _ _ Rain'
OK, now let's do another:
The Nazi Militia were known as _ _ _ _ _ shirts.
The color of feces is _ _ _ _ _.
A football team that really sucks is the Cleveland _ _ _ _ _s.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: jivJaN]
#14440938 - 05/12/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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 WHAT A FUCKING RIP OFF!
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440939 - 05/12/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its funny how "BLACK" could actually work for the first series
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440947 - 05/12/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Please fill in the blanks:
_ _ _ _ _ _ haze all through my brain. ~ Jimi
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Purple, like my pipe and the weed that's packed in it.
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The Nazi Militia were known as _ _ _ _ _ shirts.
The color of feces is _ _ _ _ _.
A football team that really sucks is the Cleveland _ _ _ _ _s.
Brown, like the color of my skin (well actually, I'm light brown ).
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440967 - 05/12/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Purple, like my pipe and the weed that's packed in it.
Pics, please!
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14440989 - 05/12/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't have a digital camera, so I can't post a pic of the weed, but I assure you, it's extra frosty!
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14440993 - 05/12/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That looks very gay. I knew you were too close to SF.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14441000 - 05/12/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here's what it looks like in pipe mode:

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OrgoneConclusion said: That looks very gay. I knew you were too close to SF. 
Hey, my friend found it at a bus stop and gave it to me because I needed a pipe.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
#14441077 - 05/12/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Many gays in SF hang out at bus stops. It is called 'cruising'.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14441132 - 05/12/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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We were walking to the train station from Target, and passed the bus stop along the way.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Poid]
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Poid said: Whether the price was mutually agreed upon or not is irrelevant..to overpay for something is to pay more than that something is worth.
If the price is mutually agreed upon, then isn't the buyer essentially saying that the product is worth whatever he's paying?
Not necessarily..it's possible to knowingly pay for more than something is worth.
Is the worth of something determined objectively? If not, then aren't you in a sense agreeing that the product is worth whatever you're paying if you proceed with the transaction?
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: deCypher]
#15112548 - 09/21/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is no such thing as a universal "fair price". Price is determined by factors and one of those factors is location, another is risk.
Those arguing that a mutually agreed-upon price is a "rip-off" simply don't understand economics.
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Jeerix]
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Jeerix said: salvia is like the DARE program in 'ready-to-smoke' form.
Great analogy, LOL
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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: TheCreampie]
#15113131 - 09/21/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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$1,000 a gram. If you think it's a rip off, send me the money, and I'll just keep it. Hey, I don't wanna make you a liar ya know...
Edit: Yes, I grew them... in another country where it's legal... and I don't grow any more so stop PMing me.

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Re: A buddy of mine sells shrooms for 25 a gram. [Re: Diploid]
#15113148 - 09/21/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's enough for one person, but what about guests?
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