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Sclerotia and PF?
    #14430963 - 05/10/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well a buddy of mine has a chimp who grows some stuff.  He had bought some syringes from a supplier that were PF Classic.  He used those on some WBS, and spawned to coir/vrm/java.  He also used these syringes for some cakes.

Tray 1: Amazing flush of PF, even, nicely proportioned and growing still (No sign of abortions yet) 20 kings, about 20 queens and some runts (off of about 2quarts total bulk after spawn.)

Tray 2: Begginings of a decent pinset, with two "stones" in one corner

Tray 3: No pinning, but about 15 light brown stones growing slowly, and evenly spaced around hte surface.

Cakes: Nadda after 5 days fruiting, except one has a stone.

So from a bit of research into Sclerotia, this is what I guess the stones are... But I thought this was for mexican, atl and tampensis?

Is this a clearcut case of contamination in the syringe making of the supplier?

Question two, how does chimp know what strain has contaminated the PF?

Q3: Are these stones only at surface level or throughout the spawned tray?
My buddies chimp is curious, not entirely dissapointed in any way, but curious.


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Re: Sclerotia and PF? [Re: Jayslay]
    #14431008 - 05/10/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

p. cubensis do not produce sclorotia. my only guess withouht picutres is some form of mutation.

Also 5 days on cakes withouht pins is fine. just wait longer.



and theres no need to make up stupid and silly stories to try and deny responsibility for your grows here. it just causes confusion.


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Re: Sclerotia and PF? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14431034 - 05/10/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Excuse me?  I appreciate the advice, but are you seriously confused that my friends chimp grows?  Maybe you need to rethink why someone might say something like that, legally. 

..... :rolleyes:

So many fuckstiks on this site its almost painfull to post.


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Re: Sclerotia and PF? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14431063 - 05/10/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

And I never said that PF forms sclerotia, a bit of research taught me that.  Thanks though, too bad you barely even attempted to answer my questions.

  They are white and whitish light brown blobs of tissue, about 3-5mm tall, about 5-10 mm diameter.  No weird smells, or any other signs of contamination.

Friend of a friend's CHIMP.  He also wears a hat with a propellor on it.  Aint that stupid and silly?


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Re: Sclerotia and PF? [Re: Jayslay]
    #14431137 - 05/10/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what you are experiencing IMO opinion is the result of multispore inoculation.

in other words, a wide range of ginetic code. every grow is different.

the pf cakes are not pinning, but give it more time and they should pin. its not uncommen for pinning to take upto 1 week maybe longer.

the weird "sclerotia" like growths ive seen from time to time around here, ive had the odd blob here and there on cakes, and its just mycelium growing in a weird way. it could be mutated fruits.


what i did forget to ask was did you get your syringes from a a shroomery sponsor. though from the performance from one of your trays your syringes are good, so can rule out bad syringes.

its not contaminated syringes.


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Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
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Re: Sclerotia and PF? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14431188 - 05/10/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like you have some mutant blobs. It's basically a mushroom without a cap.
Do they look similar to this?
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Re: Sclerotia and PF? [Re: EnigmaticMind]
    #14431238 - 05/10/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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EnigmaticMind said:
Sounds like you have some mutant blobs. It's basically a mushroom without a cap.
Do they look similar to this?
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strainge said:









there we go mutants like i said before :-)


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Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek

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Re: Sclerotia and PF? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14434668 - 05/11/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Veda and EM.  VEDa you are redeemed, sorry for being a dipstik, i was a little pissed with some people!

EM:
They look similar, but are at this point quite small and are not quite spherical as they are flattened blobs.

  Just started noticing them 36 hours ago.  Pinning has begun now also on the tray with the "growths". This makes me happy that I will get the usual fruits as well. 

I'm kind of excited because I am having huge pinsets and no abortions yet.. charting the growth and even the smallest pins have now reached 1-2 cm.  They have grown over an inch since yesterday at this time. The growth is becoming exponential over the last 48 hours.

I can get pics, just too huge of file size...  maybe I will shrink em later and post.  Will ask friend for some pics.


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Re: Sclerotia and PF? [Re: Jayslay]
    #14436023 - 05/11/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The syringes that were used were from a local supplier (head shop).
So how is it that only the mexican strains produce "sclerotia", and the blob/stones forming on this PF Classic are not sclerotia..  Just wondering for educational purposes. 

So these blobs are going to be softer and less dense then the traditional sclerotia formed on those particular strains above?


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