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Ieponumos
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Manipulation said: The first tell tale sign in the field was a wide blade of grass which was growing diagonally out from under a cluster of these mushrooms and it had a perfect thick black spore print on it. Lower mushrooms in the clusters all have semi circle spots where it looks like black soot from the upper mushrooms dropping their spores. Is there any other identifying features that tell these two mushrooms apart? Would it be reasonable for me to eat one of these fresh and wait for onset type effects to know for sure? This species vary in color so greatly that I'm honestly not sure at this point. I used the key system in Mushrooms Demystified to come this far. Would anyone be able to say for sure?
Collect 50 of them, then eat them. You will then know in less than one hour. One WILL NOT cut it.
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Manipulation

Registered: 05/03/11
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Re: Suspected P. Cinctulus [Re: Ieponumos]
#14432578 - 05/10/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Although one may have been a bit modest, 50 of them just to see if they are active seems a little over doing it, don't you think? I know that P. Cinctulus has a moderately low amount of psilocybin, but surely not that low- just for a test dosage.
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Ieponumos
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Manipulation said: Although one may have been a bit modest, 50 of them just to see if they are active seems a little over doing it, don't you think? I know that P. Cinctulus has a moderately low amount of psilocybin, but surely not that low- just for a test dosage.
http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator
About an ounce of fresh P. subbs should do you in reality. The psilocybin content of some Panaeolus species is rather low.
EDIT: For a test dose, (note this is just ) 15 grams would be a starter imo.
Edited by Ieponumos (05/10/11 11:14 PM)
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HarryL
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Registered: 11/16/10
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Re: Suspected P. Cinctulus [Re: Ieponumos]
#14432646 - 05/10/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote: HarryL said: Any blueing at all at the base or mycelium? Sounds like a pan to me, though not sure the sp. Could be though...
response: 'I was under the impression that pan cincts, mycelium and all, don't typically blue.'
I did not say typically, but have seen it written they can blue... And Have seen bluing on the base of other non-bluing sp. ... No expert on these at all... Just thought it might be worth a shot!
Pretty weak, right?
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1a4
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Registered: 03/04/10
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Re: Suspected P. Cinctulus [Re: HarryL]
#14432686 - 05/10/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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from my experience some cincts mycelium do blue, but not all of them
and eating 50 of them would be a good indication if they contain psilocin, as from my experience they are not very strong. I would not count on that calculator as, from lawn found cincts, 7.9 grams didnt put me at a "lvl 5"
though, i would have to say, they tend to feel a bit different then your everyday cubes, a lot smoother/dreamier
Edited by 1a4 (05/10/11 11:36 PM)
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Manipulation

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Re: Suspected P. Cinctulus [Re: 1a4]
#14432737 - 05/10/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I just ate a few and they were quite salty tasting.
edit: ate a few more that were fresher and they were quite bitter.
Edited by Manipulation (05/10/11 11:46 PM)
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Oboy
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Re: Suspected P. Cinctulus [Re: 1a4]
#14432991 - 05/11/11 01:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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1a4 said:
and eating 50 of them would be a good indication if they contain psilocin, as from my experience they are not very strong. I would not count on that calculator as, from lawn found cincts, 7.9 grams didnt put me at a "lvl 5"
My experience says that they can vary alot in potency, lawn cincts usually weaker than those growing on horse/cow manure. But still can vary alot between patches in the same habitats as well.
If it was my cincts i wouldnt take 50 without testing a lower dose first.
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