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    #14430206 - 05/10/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



This is the 1st time I've cased, and the 1st time I've ever let a fruit break the veil (it happened really quick).  My question is, are there any risks of leaving it to grow until the others mature?  I was hoping just to harvest all at once.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: avgstnr]
    #14430289 - 05/10/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

potency will decrease slightly after the veil has broken & that mushroom will continue to use nutrients from the substrate to continue to grow larger.

I'd let it go for another day & harvest it w/ the rest. Or you can just harvest it now & have fun tonight...


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14430320 - 05/10/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I never bother worrying about how mature they get. the difference in potency is un-noticable to me.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14430345 - 05/10/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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potency will decrease slightly after the veil has broken & that mushroom will continue to use nutrients from the substrate to continue to grow larger.

I'd let it go for another day & harvest it w/ the rest. Or you can just harvest it now & have fun tonight...





LOL i hear ya.  I would probably do it tonight, but then it wouldn't be enough to share w/ my ol' lady


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: avgstnr]
    #14430368 - 05/10/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I never bother worrying about how mature they get. the difference in potency is un-noticable to me.





I don't notice it either, but that's the truth.

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potency will decrease slightly after the veil has broken & that mushroom will continue to use nutrients from the substrate to continue to grow larger.

I'd let it go for another day & harvest it w/ the rest. Or you can just harvest it now & have fun tonight...





LOL i hear ya.  I would probably do it tonight, but then it wouldn't be enough to share w/ my ol' lady





Then just wait. They'll be fine.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: shroomiin]
    #14430369 - 05/10/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I never bother worrying about how mature they get. the difference in potency is un-noticable to me.





so if it decides to sporolate boomer jizz everywhere it shouldn't have any affect on the next flush?


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: avgstnr]
    #14430393 - 05/10/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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so if it decides to sporolate boomer jizz everywhere it shouldn't have any affect on the next flush?




No, other than maybe getting some spores on their caps...again i never really care about that.

But hey todlow, do you know if there is any negative effect of just plucking the big guy before the others are mature, then letting the little guys grow?

Ive done this in the past but i had no idea if it would have a negative effect on subsequent flushes.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: shroomiin]
    #14430447 - 05/10/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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so if it decides to sporolate boomer jizz everywhere it shouldn't have any affect on the next flush?




No, other than maybe getting some spores on their caps...again i never really care about that.

But hey todlow, do you know if there is any negative effect of just plucking the big guy before the others are mature, then letting the little guys grow?

Ive done this in the past but i had no idea if it would have a negative effect on subsequent flushes.




If anything, it'll have a positive effect on later flushes, because you're not allowing it to use more available nutrients in the substrate. Therefore, you'll have more available nutrients for the other flushes/mushrooms in the tub.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: shroomiin]
    #14430450 - 05/10/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I've always wondered what kind of effect picking and patching had on a flush as well as subsequent flushes, and whether or not patching is necessary.  When i picked flushes on cakes, i always picked everything at once and guaged my harvest time on the biggest fruit (right before the veil broke).  I would typically end up with a bunch of premies though.  It didn't matter, cuz they were just as good.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14430456 - 05/10/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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avgstnr said:

so if it decides to sporolate boomer jizz everywhere it shouldn't have any affect on the next flush?




No, other than maybe getting some spores on their caps...again i never really care about that.

But hey todlow, do you know if there is any negative effect of just plucking the big guy before the others are mature, then letting the little guys grow?

Ive done this in the past but i had no idea if it would have a negative effect on subsequent flushes.




If anything, it'll have a positive effect on later flushes, because you're not allowing it to use more available nutrients in the substrate. Therefore, you'll have more available nutrients for the other flushes/mushrooms in the tub.




Sounds like a good point.  But makes my decision a little more difficult LOL.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: avgstnr]
    #14430500 - 05/10/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well... thank you guys for the insight.  I'll probably just leave it be till the others are bigger.  It'll be another learning experience either way.:cool:


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: avgstnr]
    #14430527 - 05/10/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, I've always wondered what kind of effect picking and patching had on a flush as well as subsequent flushes, and whether or not patching is necessary.  When i picked flushes on cakes, i always picked everything at once and guaged my harvest time on the biggest fruit (right before the veil broke).  I would typically end up with a bunch of premies though.  It didn't matter, cuz they were just as good.




patching is to help the substrate w/ moisture content. It's a casing layer that you just put in the large open spots that have been torn up due to picking. I always had the problem of tearing up a ton of substrate w/ my GH trays, but since I've moved to monos I can press w/ a slight amount of pressure on the bottom of the stem while twisting & pulling. I now get very little substrate w/ my mushis when picking...or you can just cut them


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14430749 - 05/10/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I always cut I'll bend the fruit untill I can slip my scalpel under then slice.Its even better if you slice the fruit off at the base as ive seen them do at commercial mushroom operations


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14430808 - 05/10/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yea. I found these little cigar cutters that are like scissors. Lifetime guarantee, free sharpening if ever dulled. They seem like they'd be perfect. I'll up load the pic real quick...

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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14430830 - 05/10/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When you cut mushrooms off at the base and leave behind a small piece of mushroom. Can that invite contams or is it not to worry about.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: Applejuice]
    #14430836 - 05/10/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It can invite contams, because there's the possibility of them molding. However, the mushrooms will re-digest the stumps & use those for more food for later flushes.

it's a gamble. I don't leave anything on the substrate, just pins.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: Applejuice]
    #14430847 - 05/10/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Okkay, So as long as you cut it pretty much against the surface leaving barley anything behind... Your good.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: Applejuice]
    #14430878 - 05/10/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Okkay, So as long as you cut it pretty much against the surface leaving barley anything behind... Your good.




should be. I always pick in the standard manner for cubes.


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14430906 - 05/10/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Those scissors look sweet all they need is a curved blade :thumbup:

I just leave a small nub when i cut or if the fruits aren't really anchored in I'll just twist the fruit out gently


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: steelmonkey]
    #14434155 - 05/11/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well, I decided to let them explode, and they didn't hold back any punches.  My ol lady thought they were goin bad and she didn't believe they were spores. :grin:  Got 33.2g wet after cleaning them off.  Wasn't expecting much anyway because this was an experiment but it turned out better then I thought.  Dunkin the casing now and gettin ready for the next Chitwan flush!...:mushroom2:



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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: avgstnr]
    #14434201 - 05/11/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Good job dude. Let us know how the second flush turns out.

O yea, you can find tons of threads on here of people asking if their mushrooms are OK to eat or whatever because of the "black stuff" (spores) on them :lmafo:


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14434485 - 05/11/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Good job dude. Let us know how the second flush turns out.

O yea, you can find tons of threads on here of people asking if their mushrooms are OK to eat or whatever because of the "black stuff" (spores) on them :lmafo:





thanks man.  hey i'm diggin that AMU concept, by the way.:thumbup:


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: avgstnr]
    #14434531 - 05/11/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Good job dude. Let us know how the second flush turns out.

O yea, you can find tons of threads on here of people asking if their mushrooms are OK to eat or whatever because of the "black stuff" (spores) on them :lmafo:





thanks man.  hey i'm diggin that AMU concept, by the way.:thumbup:




:orly:

which concept may that be? :wink:


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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14434964 - 05/11/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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todlow said:
Good job dude. Let us know how the second flush turns out.

O yea, you can find tons of threads on here of people asking if their mushrooms are OK to eat or whatever because of the "black stuff" (spores) on them :lmafo:





thanks man.  hey i'm diggin that AMU concept, by the way.:thumbup:




:orly:

which concept may that be? :wink:





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Re: Lead Boomer of the Pack [Re: avgstnr]
    #14435009 - 05/11/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:bow2: :lowfive:

Thank you very much buddy.

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