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Almost or fully colonized cakes?
    #14430201 - 05/10/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I thought my jars were fully colonized but now I'm not too sure..

The jars are fully covered but i can see brown (brf) through the myc.. like I said I can only see it UNDER a layer of myc but dunno.. I dont have pics now but i'll post some later. Everything is colonized but the bottoms look like this:



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Re: Almost or fully colonized cakes? [Re: Swwert]
    #14431685 - 05/10/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Almost or fully colonized cakes? [Re: Swwert]
    #14431698 - 05/10/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Its fully colonized but wait another 3 or 4 days to ensure full colonization on the inside. You can put them in fc now but they will just sit their until they are ready. So better just wait a few more days.


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Re: Almost or fully colonized cakes? [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14431716 - 05/10/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

looks fully colinsied, wait 1 week after full colinisation before dunking for 24 hours roll in verm and put into fruiting.


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Re: Almost or fully colonized cakes? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #14432018 - 05/10/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

thank you all! They have been like that for 5 days now.. so i will birth on the 12.. I just wanst sure


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Re: Almost or fully colonized cakes? [Re: Swwert]
    #14432097 - 05/10/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

One sure-fire way to know jars are done is when they start to shrink and condensation forms between the jar and the cake. That means the cake has shifted to consuming-the-substrate mode instead of simply colonizing it. It's ready for birth when you see that happening, you'll recognize it when you see it in a few days I bet.


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Re: Almost or fully colonized cakes? [Re: afrosheen]
    #14432534 - 05/10/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Mine are the same way, when they get like that, if they stall a bit, I just give them a couple wacks upside down (if you have a dry verm layer for protection), to loosen the cake from the jar and then I put them back into the incubator for a couple days and the bottoms will fully colonize in a couple days.  This also works great for stalled jars which have a little bit to go on the bottom.  This is very common when using the narrow half pint jars.  I now mostly use the widemouth, they're more expensive, but they are shallow and wide so the bottoms colonize much more quickly.  I've had many many incidences where there was a small corner, or even the bottom 1/8" of substrate that didn't colonize, and the jars would stay like that for days.  Then I discovered the "whack" technique and that has always worked.  Just give 'em a couple whacks on wood and the cake will come away from the jar just a little giving the myc. room to grow and air to grow in.  In the long run however, if you still want to do jars, use the shallow ones.  I always use jars for new species/experiments since they are pretty much the safest way to go for most things.  If you want to bulk up a little with jars, you can always spawn to bulk, but, you should use a grain jar if you want to do that.  BRF spawn to bulk doesn't work nearly as well.  Hope that helps,


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Re: Almost or fully colonized cakes? [Re: bbox244]
    #14432681 - 05/10/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Mine are the same way, when they get like that, if they stall a bit, I just give them a couple wacks upside down (if you have a dry verm layer for protection), to loosen the cake from the jar and then I put them back into the incubator for a couple days and the bottoms will fully colonize in a couple days.  This also works great for stalled jars which have a little bit to go on the bottom.  This is very common when using the narrow half pint jars.  I now mostly use the widemouth, they're more expensive, but they are shallow and wide so the bottoms colonize much more quickly.  I've had many many incidences where there was a small corner, or even the bottom 1/8" of substrate that didn't colonize, and the jars would stay like that for days.  Then I discovered the "whack" technique and that has always worked.  Just give 'em a couple whacks on wood and the cake will come away from the jar just a little giving the myc. room to grow and air to grow in.  In the long run however, if you still want to do jars, use the shallow ones.  I always use jars for new species/experiments since they are pretty much the safest way to go for most things.  If you want to bulk up a little with jars, you can always spawn to bulk, but, you should use a grain jar if you want to do that.  BRF spawn to bulk doesn't work nearly as well.  Hope that helps,




Thanks a lot, I wanted to get wide mouth but all I could find for the time were tall ones. I was just excited to get started. I'm pretty sure walmart has wide mouth, I will def be getting those from now on..  I will try the tap on 1 of my jars that has like 3% to go and has been there for a day or so.. its like 5 days behind the rest


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