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Well, there goes Skype
    #14428622 - 05/10/11 07:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

It was bought for 8.5 billion $ by... guess who... Microsoft


As if running and improving MSN messenger wasnt good enought they aquired their biggest competitor :shrug:
MS bought Skype
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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: desant]
    #14428626 - 05/10/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i dont use skype so i dont care. :lol:


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14428629 - 05/10/11 07:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

don't care :bonghit:


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: desant]
    #14428652 - 05/10/11 07:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I guess that means soon skype will be a bloated, obtrusive system that takes over your computer, similar to MSN messenger.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14428805 - 05/10/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
I guess that means soon skype will be a bloated, obtrusive system that takes over your computer, similar to MSN messenger.



Indeed.

Microsoft you greedy asshole, why are you so damn worried about competition? Should be renamed OMNISOFT.
"OMNISOFT, we own you"


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: desant]
    #14428815 - 05/10/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Huh?


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: desant]
    #14428818 - 05/10/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What benefits does Skype provide that two people with webcams don't normally have?


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: limestoneman]
    #14428832 - 05/10/11 08:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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limestoneman said:
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starfire_xes said:
I guess that means soon skype will be a bloated, obtrusive system that takes over your computer, similar to MSN messenger.



Indeed.

Microsoft you greedy asshole, why are you so damn worried about competition? Should be renamed OMNISOFT.
"OMNISOFT, we own you"




:werd:

MSN went from fairly usable and pratical to bloated piece of shit in under 5 years :smilingpuppy:
You can't even fucking run it minimized anymore??... god damn retards.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14428842 - 05/10/11 08:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What benefits does Skype provide that two people with webcams don't normally have?




It rings so it's just like a phone except it's free.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #14428848 - 05/10/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Skype has been looking for an owner for a while now.  If it wasn't Microsoft, it would've been Google or Facebook.  Be happy its not the FB octopus getting larger, just the ageing and slowly-dieing Microsoft Octopus


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14428851 - 05/10/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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What benefits does Skype provide that two people with webcams don't normally have?



Uhm, it allows them to actually use those webcams? Webcams themselves do nothing. You still need software to use them. Skype works pretty nicely, in my experience.

As to the original question in this thread: who gives a flying fuck either way? The alternative for Skype would have been to be eaten by Facebook. Either way, from a perspective of Skype, it is to be hoped that the new owner will allow them to keep investing in innovation, which seems likely. Also, it stands to reason that the activity should somehow start generating profits instead of remaining the bottomless cash pit it has been since its inception. So expect some sort of advertising, or integration in other MS products. From the perspective of Skype users, they'll probably not notice anything in the short to medium term.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: koraks]
    #14428868 - 05/10/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

^ Yep.  Skype's core functionality will not change a bit.  Just look for Microsoft to figure out new ways to monetarize the product.  Like you said, advertising will be #1.  Right now Skype only collects revenues from calls when a person on a computer calls a landline in another country -- and even then Skype only collects the low domestic rate.

Microsoft is smart -- I expect them to come up with some clever ideas


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: koraks]
    #14428871 - 05/10/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

wonder if they will keep the linux client in active development..



i dont care either way though. i still dont see the point of video conferencing.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: frith]
    #14428881 - 05/10/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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wonder if they will keep the linux client in active development..




Good question. I'd say that it would be in the interest of MS to do so, as it would enlarge the potential user base and therefore optimally exploit the network externalities of Skype. However, rational behavior has not always been the prime characteristic of MS's strategic decision making, it seems.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: koraks]
    #14428901 - 05/10/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Denying use of common applications to everyone but Microsoft users is also in their interest as well :smilingpuppy:


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: koraks]
    #14428924 - 05/10/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That's all?  You act like Skype is the first/ only program/website that allows people with webcams to interact with each other. Who fucking cares if Microsoft bought it. :lol:


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: twighead]
    #14428927 - 05/10/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Denying use of common applications to everyone but Microsoft users is also in their interest as well



Not necessarily. Two options: (1) offer Skype only to Windows users and hope that non-Windows users move to Windows to be able to use Skype, and (2) offer Skype to Linux users as well and enjoy a (marginally) larger user group, making the service itself more valuable to both MS and its users. It seems unlikely that Linux users will migrate to Windows only for Skype (and maybe it even runs on Wine, I'm not sure), so offering only Windows support will put a limit to the number of potential users. But since the Linux community is still relatively small, the most likely outcome in my opinion is that MS lets Linux development bleed to death, but doesn't make public statements about it for as long as possible. It's a cost/benefit thing, and I doubt that the benefits of offering a Linux version will bring the returns to justify the investment. But the details of the business are far beyond my insight.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: frith]
    #14428943 - 05/10/11 09:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i dont care either way though. i still dont see the point of video conferencing.



Really?  Then you're either incredibly closed-minded and unimaginative or you're just being difficult.

Because video conferencing clearly has great applicability.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: memes]
    #14428957 - 05/10/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Goddamit.

Skype was a good thing. I loved it.

Now that Microsoft has it, it gonna start bugging, crashing, fucking up and pissing people off...

Now I'm gonna have to find a new software...


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: memes]
    #14428967 - 05/10/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i dont care either way though. i still dont see the point of video conferencing.



Really?  Then you're either incredibly closed-minded and unimaginative or you're just being difficult.

Because video conferencing clearly has great applicability.



like what?



as far as Skype on Linux, there are already free, open source alternatives on Linux. if they killed it off i really dont think it would affect many people.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: memes]
    #14428979 - 05/10/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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frith said:
i dont care either way though. i still dont see the point of video conferencing.



Really?  Then you're either incredibly closed-minded and unimaginative or you're just being difficult.

Because video conferencing clearly has great applicability.



What does video conferencing add exactly to voice chat? I know that about a decade ago, video con technology used to be regarded as the super-duper technology that would render face-to-face conversations unnecessary, but I know from very up-close and personal that that isn't the case. And in situations where face-to-face isn't necessary, it seems that regular voice chat works just fine. Video is a nice addition, but I'm not sure if it brings that much to the party. (Apart from webcam sex, which obviously is just not such a hot deal if you take away the video).


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: frith]
    #14429120 - 05/10/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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like what?




-Like allowing grandmothers everywhere to frequently see their baby grandchildren without having to travel all the time; something most grandparents dont' have energy (or $) for

-Allowing executives to be present in meetings without being physically in the same room.  When I was aged 9-12 my mom would fly to Chicago (we live in eastern VA) every monday and fly home every Friday so that we wouldn't have to move.  Now-a-days she can sit at home on her tablet and oversee production issues in Ireland.

-Medical applications:  think about doctors in the US streaming in to clinics in Africa where they can visually diagnose skin ailments and give orders to the staff there regarding which and how much medication to administer. 

-Becoming familiar (not just fb stalking) your future college freshman roommate.  I know how weird it can be livingwith someone you know nothing about.  A few face-to-face convos help with that a lot.  A lot of information richness is lost on phone/email/FB.  Facial expressions and reactions tell a lot about people.

-Seeing the look on someone's face when you give them great news, as opposed to just hearing their digitalized voice over a tiny cell phone speaker.






you know, things like taht.  :kingtard:


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: memes]
    #14429136 - 05/10/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

wow, how did we ever get by back in the stone age without video chat?


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: memes]
    #14429174 - 05/10/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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like what?




-Like allowing grandmothers everywhere to frequently see their baby grandchildren without having to travel all the time; something most grandparents dont' have energy (or $) for

-Allowing executives to be present in meetings without being physically in the same room.  When I was aged 9-12 my mom would fly to Chicago (we live in eastern VA) every monday and fly home every Friday so that we wouldn't have to move.  Now-a-days she can sit at home on her tablet and oversee production issues in Ireland.

-Medical applications:  think about doctors in the US streaming in to clinics in Africa where they can visually diagnose skin ailments and give orders to the staff there regarding which and how much medication to administer. 



All of that can be done with email or conference calls.

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-Becoming familiar (not just fb stalking) your future college freshman roommate.  I know how weird it can be livingwith someone you know nothing about.  A few face-to-face convos help with that a lot.  A lot of information richness is lost on phone/email/FB.  Facial expressions and reactions tell a lot about people.



I'll give you that one.

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-Seeing the look on someone's face when you give them great news, as opposed to just hearing their digitalized voice over a tiny cell phone speaker.



meh.. its not really necessary. :shrug:



I just think that it rarely adds any value at all to a conversation that can be completed just as easily on a conference call.

If I am talking to you, I want to know what you are saying. I don't need to see you to talk to you.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: frith] * 1
    #14429252 - 05/10/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Frith doesn't want people to see him :lolsy:


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: blujay]
    #14429334 - 05/10/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Frith doesn't want people to see him :lolsy:



Yeah, that's why he posts his face on this message board :archiebunker: \

I'm with frith on this one. But I do think the grandma-argument is solid. It's the most solid one in there. The rest is just meh; it can either be done perfectly well through voice chat or email, or it requires actual face-to-face contact. I think most of its value lies in personal (non-business) communication; couples who live in geographical separation being able to see each other and whatnot. I think that does help in some cases.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: koraks]
    #14429350 - 05/10/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well if you like voice chat and email so much why don't you just marry them?

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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: blujay]
    #14429352 - 05/10/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You know, I just might, and then you'll have to go without them, because they're very loyal and reliable!


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: frith]
    #14429694 - 05/10/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

'meh, y'all are wak.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: desant]
    #14429798 - 05/10/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Skype was already getting obnoxiously obtrusive, setting cookies, opening invisible windows, running scripts in I.E. even though it isn't my default browser....running them in the background.  After investigation, most of it is downloading bullshit macromedia flash player stuff to run ads when you open your browser.


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14438340 - 05/12/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

could really give a shit less, Google voice :thumbup:


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Re: Well, there goes Skype [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14438343 - 05/12/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Skype was already getting obnoxiously obtrusive, setting cookies, opening invisible windows, running scripts in I.E. even though it isn't my default browser....running them in the background.  After investigation, most of it is downloading bullshit macromedia flash player stuff to run ads when you open your browser.




disable all scripts by default, I've grown to do this normally and I'll run certain scripts on websites I know, and permit. easy thing to get used to some nice plugins for firefox etc..


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