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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: The Phleg]
    #14428283 - 05/10/11 04:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Jesus was a king of Isreal and cult figure and really has nothing to do with God in the true sense of the word God.

Jesus is just another man.  He was a powerful king which is why he is still known today and was written about in ancient texts.  There are hundreds of "jesus" like figures in every culture on Earth.  Try not to get stuck in the thought loop of praising an imaginary diety - especially one that was just a man like you.

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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: The Phleg]
    #14428295 - 05/10/11 05:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Jesus was a king of Isreal and cult figure and really has nothing to do with God in the true sense of the word God.

Jesus is just another man.  He was a powerful king which is why he is still known today and was written about in ancient texts.  There are hundreds of "jesus" like figures in every culture on Earth.  Try not to get stuck in the thought loop of praising an imaginary diety - especially one that was just a man like you.




this is basically his way of thought tho.. its a metaphor so u cant really say hes wrong
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God is a very real "thing". He may be what make up everything in existence, He is all experienced, yet neutral, and in a way bored. He is an essence, maybe. I also feel he and the devil are one, as if God were a range of emotions stretching from the whitest goodness to blackest evil.






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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: Asante]
    #14428310 - 05/10/11 05:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thank you Wiccan, your comment gave me a rush and a smile.  :awethumb:


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14428315 - 05/10/11 05:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think that atoms are energy, we have this physical shape but when decomposed are transformed and our atoms are incorporated into others life forms.
Who knows where did the atoms that now compose everything came from?
I think this is it, the universe is a huge mass of matter in constant transformation, death is just a part of that matter transformation cycle.
I don't believe in ghosts or poltergeists, or spirits whatsoever :shrug:
The only true overwhelming force that I can conceive to exist is Nature, not gods who fathered messiahs and yada yada yada.


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: pouihi]
    #14428342 - 05/10/11 05:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't believe in ghosts or poltergeists, or spirits whatsoever :shrug:





I don't believe in anything but I can tell you theres a hell of a lot of data showing ghosts and life after death to be as real as anything else in this world.

If you choose not to believe then you basically have a flawed view of reality because nothing can be empiricly proven.  Absolutely nothing. 

The closest a human can get to any truth is to look at as much available data on the subject matter as possible and logically calculate how likely it is.

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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14428346 - 05/10/11 05:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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this is basically his way of thought tho.. its a metaphor so u cant really say hes wrong






Yes but as long as everyone realises its a metaphor.  That name comes with so much baggage I would not choose to use it as a metaphor.

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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: nice1]
    #14428393 - 05/10/11 06:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I tried to drop a few bags...

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(When I say Jesus/God, I don't mean them for what they are commonly known for today, I don't believe in those figures, but ones they were based off)




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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: The Phleg]
    #14428406 - 05/10/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Did you experience a white light in your ego death experience?

I have had what I would say was ego death twice...

What happened was I experienced myself from a 3rd person perspective, I could see all my functionings layed out in front of me, then I had this physical / mental pain that grew more and more intense until I was sure I was dying...

At that point I surrendered to a higher being (god / the source / the multiverse) I dunno what I was surrendering to exactly it was just a facet of accepting my death.  As soon as I accepted it I was no longer in in my body.  I had no emotion or anlysis - I was in what I can only decribe as a bright white light that I was a part of or bathed in.  It felt good because I was just experience and nothing else. 

I only returned to my body when my ego kicked back in and started trying to figure out where I was and what had happened.

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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: The Phleg]
    #14428446 - 05/10/11 06:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Interestingly, Christianity states that the only way to the Kingdom of God is through Jesus.

Your own research findings indicates that all living beings are essentially Jesus, therefore its nnarrowed down to that the Kingdom of God can be attained through earthly life, and believing in yourself.

Sounds like a positive message :heart::thumbup:

Congratulations on your Jesus Trip man, I had it happen too, its a point many serious trippers encounter on their Journey. Welcome to the club :hug:





Just remember that what you experienced is not exempt from the "no definitive proof" concept, its really all about belief. All you can depend on is that when you are SURE you got the absolute truth, you got the wrong number.


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: Asante]
    #14428460 - 05/10/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The realisation IMO is that you manifest your own reality and destiny and the boundaries are not where we are told...

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I take it you mean the same thing by saying you are Jesus? 

Jesus is a bad metaphor though because Jesus was a king of Isreal.  Its like saying I realised I was the Queen  :tongue:

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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: nice1]
    #14428469 - 05/10/11 06:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Theres a lot more to it than that. Christ is the archetype of a set of experiences and values that go beyond the person, just like Hitler or Gandhi.


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: Asante]
    #14428700 - 05/10/11 08:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I deffinitly think there is a heaven. I've had some recent events where I have completely found God, Jesus, the holy spirit ( blah blah blah.. I know you guys hate this stuff )
I talk to God now and get answers rather quickly ( not Schizophrenically.. I know the difference )

So I'm Pro-Heaven!

and I must say.. Although I don't want to die right now, I'm pretty excited. I don't fear death in the slightest anymore.

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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: Eshu]
    #14428897 - 05/10/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What comes after Death?



usually a necrophiliac, give or take 5 minutes for him to get the erection. :feelsgoodman:

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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #14428948 - 05/10/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nothing happens because you don't exist


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #14429229 - 05/10/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Welcome to the shroomery

Where your fifth day awake on meth, a half-dozen DXM sessions and an accidental exposure to LSD is empirical evidence of anything you want it to be bro


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: Eshu]
    #14429712 - 05/10/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Eshu said:
I deffinitly think there is a heaven. I've had some recent events where I have completely found God, Jesus, the holy spirit ( blah blah blah.. I know you guys hate this stuff )
I talk to God now and get answers rather quickly ( not Schizophrenically.. I know the difference )

So I'm Pro-Heaven!

and I must say.. Although I don't want to die right now, I'm pretty excited. I don't fear death in the slightest anymore.

:cheers:




You get answers from yourself. You're asking yourself these questions, not God. There is no one putting thoughts or answers into your brain.


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14429735 - 05/10/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nothing is not something that can happen.

My guess is, you're endlessly recycled. :shrug:


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: NetDiver]
    #14429796 - 05/10/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't believe in anything but I can tell you theres a hell of a lot of data showing ghosts and life after death to be as real as anything else in this world.

Data??

My guess is, you're endlessly recycled. :shrug:

My thoughts exactly.


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: pouihi]
    #14429805 - 05/10/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you got money, a lot of people would like to see the government bend you over and fuck you one last time for the estate tax after you die.  That's the only thing certain after death.


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Re: What Comes After Death? [Re: pouihi]
    #14429807 - 05/10/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you journey into the spirit world.


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