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Offlinef8L
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Grow 60+ dry grams Tek
    #1442832 - 04/09/03 01:40 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

This is a partial rant and partial tek. It makes me so frustrated to see people coming onto shroomery and dedicated 2 1/2 months and getting basically less than 10 grams dried when there is absolutely NO reason why they shouldn't be getting 60grams dried on their first run.

Why on earth do people at the shroomery promote this 'pftek' nonsense. I've had numerous friends, using the tek below, grow over 60 dry grams on their first attempts. One of them just grew 85 dry grams on his first attempt.

I know this is a rant but people, if you want to grow 80+ g. dried on your first attempt innoculate 3 (4 to be safe) quart jars of millet and sterilize with pressure cooker. Then let it colonize and then pasterize and case into 50% Miracle Grow for Vegatables and 50% Cut up Straw (found at art supply store). Now take some saran wrap and push your casing down and cover the entire top with saran wrap, then poke holes with a fork for air circulation. Let it sit for 2 weeks or until it turns into a brick. Now you can either let it fruit or apply a casing layer.

OK, in 7 lines I have provided you with a tek that will grow at MINIMUM 60 grams per rubbermade tub. The previous tek assumes you use 3 quart jars, so if you have 6 quart jars, and two rubbermades, you can easily cultivate over 120 dry grams....

This isn't rocket science at all. People at the shroomery just try to complicated things with all their 'advanced' crap... ugh.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1442868 - 04/09/03 01:45 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Isn't poo spawned with millet better?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1442875 - 04/09/03 01:46 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

huh? ... the tek is using millet...


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1442883 - 04/09/03 01:48 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

sounds good for someone who did there home work but if you havent read some of the questions posted round here this is rocket science to some people
and btw what does race cars have to do with cultivating fungus?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1442889 - 04/09/03 01:49 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

i think he was emphesizing on the poo part. What all is in this maricle grow for vegetables?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tak_old]
    #1442897 - 04/09/03 01:50 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I understand what dude is saying, but I was under the impression poo was better than compost.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1442912 - 04/09/03 01:54 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

The PF tek IMHO is a joke for true mushroom production. It was in 1995 and it still is today.


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Offlinef8L
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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1442914 - 04/09/03 01:54 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Miracle grow for vegatables works incredibly well... I'm not sure if that is the *magical* ingredient or not, but everyone that has used this tek has done extremely well... Check out f8L's grow log from awhile back... he did 100+ dry as well.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1442920 - 04/09/03 01:55 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Damnit man ! I am a rocket scientist , and I grow mushies . I wasted all that time attaching SRB's to my grow chambers ! I thought it would speed thing up !  :blush: :wink: 


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1442933 - 04/09/03 01:58 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

What is a SRB?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: no-tone]
    #1442948 - 04/09/03 02:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Mushrooms from outer space :smile:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: no-tone]
    #1442953 - 04/09/03 02:04 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: no-tone]
    #1442959 - 04/09/03 02:06 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

SRB = SOLID ROCKET BOOSTER , or in lame mans terms a rocket engine !
Nothing like 1500 newton seconds , or more , of thrust to get colonization moving along at MACH speeds !


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1442967 - 04/09/03 02:08 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

How many newton meters of growth per socond can you achieve if you add some liquid oxygen to your jars? :smile:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1442970 - 04/09/03 02:09 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

i can see what youre sayin. but the pftek is for beginers. its just so you get a grasp of growing. im sure you helped your friends out in their grows, no? most people that start out are doing this on their own with no help but from the shroomery. yeah you can start out big but why not just start out small and in your own comfort level first. gotta crawl before you walk type stuff. not everyone starts out with teh pftek, its just simple to so you can get started. thats why there are bulk teks and alot of other teks other than the pftek.

like george said im sure you did your homework. when i grew i did my homework too and didnt start out with letting just cakes fruit, but rather went straight to casings and spawing compost.

its just all about being comfy. some people arent out to grow massive amounts. just amounts good enough for personal use or enough for a couple good friends. if they wanted to grow bulk they could easily find the teks. for those that ask about growin bulk they are steered in the direction of the bulk teks. people suggest the pftek cause even though it maybe easy for some to grow its gonna be hard for others.

haha i apologize. just ramblin cause i didnt sleep last night and now i get to go to work.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1442976 - 04/09/03 02:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

ya but they just grow too damn big that way take to long to dry is the only reason kramer doesn't do it


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1442995 - 04/09/03 02:13 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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if you want to grow 80+ g. dried on your first attempt innoculate 3 (4 to be safe) quart jars of millet and sterilize with pressure cooker. Then let it colonize and then pasterize and case into 50% Miracle Grow for Vegatables and 50% Cut up Straw (found at art supply store).




Heeey slow down there!

Don't rush your horses!

First what the hell is millet? I swear first time i hear this!

Second, miracle grow, isn't that blueish powder - plant food?

And finally straw, gee wtf!!



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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: george castanza]
    #1442996 - 04/09/03 02:14 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

On a serious note, spawning poo is better than spawning compost, no? For yields and potency? I've never tried compost.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Emerald Geechi Suede]
    #1443008 - 04/09/03 02:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Now I have a RANT .........
That is only a myth that bulk subs are for masters only and"NOT" best place to start . Cousin IT started with spores , agar , grain , and bulk sub mixes , and is all the wiser and gladder that he did so . Gives a much better understanding of mush growth process . But for all newbie growers getting started , do self big favor and make the "smartest" investment you'll ever make , and get THE MUSHROOM CULTIVATOR , it will guide you thru the whole process , giving you a foundation of knowledge that you will use forever (as far as mush growing goes ) .
And remeber ...... are you growing mushrooms or doing easy bake cakes ?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: cleaner]
    #1443024 - 04/09/03 02:23 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

What the hell is millett ? It is a bird seed , one can obtain them at feed and grain stores , or Wal mart (many claim)
Miracle gro .... also makes compost mixtures for veggie growing , is not just blue powder you are familiar with .
Straw ... the stuff farmers feed their cows , and horses with .
Sorry sound so sarcastic ! :wink: 


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1443025 - 04/09/03 02:23 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

LOL! Sterilizing in an easy bake oven...

...where's MOE?


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    #1443030 - 04/09/03 02:24 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1443032 - 04/09/03 02:25 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Like that easy bake comment , huh Big J ?
It is my motto ... "I'm not a baker , I'm a mushroom maker !"


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1443042 - 04/09/03 02:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

can you use this tek with out a pc?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: PJDIDDLE]
    #1443048 - 04/09/03 02:29 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Same here my friend . Bulk does not mean it must be massive amounts , this all depends on ones set up , and ability . But cakes are not the "only" , "best" , method for newbies . It is a matter of opinon , and desire to learn the old school rules . Hell bulk methods have been around a lot longer than PF method . Bulk is much more effeciant method IMHO .


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: 101878]
    #1443058 - 04/09/03 02:31 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

One thing all teks have in common is ........... STERILIZATION of the substrate prior to inocing . So yes you need a PC or AC . Well , some have done the boil it method , but is a lot less reliable of a method to sterilize things .


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: 101878]
    #1443072 - 04/09/03 02:34 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

My friend tried grains in a micro for awhile. He nuked the shit out of the grains every time. He even boiled the grains for an hour before he micro'd. He eventually got tired of wasting his time as EVERY JAR CONTAM'd eventually.

So, yes, you need a PC. Once you've tried spawning poo with millet, you will never waste your time on anything else. I'd say you get double or triple the yield and potency. Those who've tried BRF and WBS + poo will back me up.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1443111 - 04/09/03 02:47 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

hey don't knock cakes... theres nothing better than watching your little friends grow on top of your desk.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: dannycorona82]
    #1443122 - 04/09/03 02:49 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

hey don't knock cakes... theres nothing better than watching your little friends grow on top of your desk. 




Hehe, except maybe getting more and better friends :smile:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1443129 - 04/09/03 02:51 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Miracle gro .... also makes compost mixtures for veggie growing , is not just blue powder you are familiar with .





Wee heyy, slow down there brother, i swear i didnt get a word of that.

So you saying its a compost? WHat's so special about miracle grow? Can't i use some other compost, just tell what it should contain.

Either way last time i checked i didnt see any miracle grow in BnQ


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: cleaner]
    #1443136 - 04/09/03 02:54 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Any organic compost for veggies should work, IMO, but that's just what I've heard.

What I'm wondering is how it stands up against poo.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1443144 - 04/09/03 02:57 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Why on earth do people at the shroomery promote this 'pftek' nonsense.




The beauty of the PF Tek is that it's cheap (no PC required), uses easily obtained equipment and supplies, and it's nearly fool-proof if followed to the letter. It's also stealthy; a casing is harder to hide than a cake.

Sure, other methods give much higher yields, but for those who prefer stealth and economy over yield, the PF Tek is almost ideal.

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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: cleaner]
    #1443145 - 04/09/03 02:57 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Can not tell you first hand how well it works , have not used it myself . But yes , in the gardening section of most nurseries , harware stores , etc.... you can "usually" find potting soils made by the company Miracle Gro . This is what f8l was reffering to .
What is BnQ , by the way ?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1443147 - 04/09/03 02:58 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

yep. i saw 80+ dry grams from 2 quart jars of wild bird seed cased in 50/50+.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Diploid]
    #1443150 - 04/09/03 02:59 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

The only folks worried about stealthness are minors living at mummy and daddies place . Otherwise My portabells grow on the kitchen table . :wink: 


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1443154 - 04/09/03 03:00 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Can not tell you first hand how well it works , have not used it myself . But yes , in the gardening section of most nurseries , harware stores , etc.... you can "usually" find potting soils made by the company Miracle Gro . This is what f8l was reffering to .
What is BnQ , by the way ?




I thought he was talking about compost, not soil. So, he is advocating 50/50 soil and straw? Hmmm...my friends one experiment spawning soil+manure was a total failure. Green in just a few days.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1443175 - 04/09/03 03:06 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

>I know this is a rant but people, if you want to grow 80+ g. dried on your first
>attempt innoculate 3 (4 to be safe) quart jars of millet and sterilize with pressure
>cooker.

So, I should innoculate AND THEN sterilize, huh?  :smile: 


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: BeerStud]
    #1443194 - 04/09/03 03:12 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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>I know this is a rant but people, if you want to grow 80+ g. dried on your first
>attempt innoculate 3 (4 to be safe) quart jars of millet and sterilize with pressure
>cooker.

So, I should innoculate AND THEN sterilize, huh?  :smile: 




LOL! Didn't catch that :smile:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: BeerStud]
    #1443196 - 04/09/03 03:12 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Good eye threr Beer stud . Yes folks ...... you sterilize grain , let completly cool , inoc with fave culture or syringe inject , wait , pray and hope all was done right , watch them grow .


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1443371 - 04/09/03 04:10 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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The only folks worried about stealthness are minors living at mummy and daddies place .




Not just minors. Adult college students in a dorm need both stealth and economy. Others with uptight roommates or nosey neighbors might also need stealth. I was just pointing out why the PF Tek is so popular despite it's inefficiency.

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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Diploid]
    #1443468 - 04/09/03 04:48 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

No one mentionee that we are all talking on a public message board...... you don't want to be blabbing about growing a dozen pounds of mushrooms.... that is just stupid.

We have a nice community,,, with fun people. learning the art of mushroom cultivation..

Learn about the process.. PF for example... no PC.. no problem... now if you want to be a big boy and grow tons... well, the info needed is around.. but don't brag about it publicly ..= not smart!!!


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: PooPs]
    #1443480 - 04/09/03 04:52 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

poops, c'mon man - that pic has to go. i just ate!

can't you get a cowpat / horse log shot instead? that looks like a cross between a big dogshit and a human turd.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: cleaner]
    #1443494 - 04/09/03 04:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Quote:

Miracle gro .... also makes compost mixtures for veggie growing , is not just blue powder you are familiar with .





Wee heyy, slow down there brother, i swear i didnt get a word of that.

So you saying its a compost? WHat's so special about miracle grow? Can't i use some other compost, just tell what it should contain.

Either way last time i checked i didnt see any miracle grow in BnQ




Miracle basically substitutes POO. So you are doing Miracle Grow/ STAW instead of POO/Straw. I found that Miracle Grow for Veggies works just as well as Poo, and it doesn't smell as bad and is easier to obtain (although it contains organic poo).


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: shirley knott]
    #1443495 - 04/09/03 04:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

No i can't...

I love that pic..... it just fits... Poops... hahahaha... The username came from the pic.

I like the shadow it creates.. hahahahaha


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1443576 - 04/09/03 05:28 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Miracle basically substitutes POO. So you are doing Miracle Grow/ STAW instead of POO/Straw. I found that Miracle Grow for Veggies works just as well as Poo, and it doesn't smell as bad and is easier to obtain (although it contains organic poo).




Do you have to sterilize bagged compost? Or pasteurize?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Diploid]
    #1443586 - 04/09/03 05:31 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Quote:

The only folks worried about stealthness are minors living at mummy and daddies place . 




Not just minors.  Adult college students in a dorm need both stealth and economy. 





*raises hand*


OHH YEP thats me :smile:

Just few days ago i had a surprise inspection, they found my incubation chamber but couldn't figure out what the fuck was in all those glasses lol!

Agree with stealth but economy  :mad: no no!  :wink:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1443602 - 04/09/03 05:36 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)






Miracle basically substitutes POO. So you are doing Miracle Grow/ STAW instead of POO/Straw. I found that Miracle Grow for Veggies works just as well as Poo, and it doesn't smell as bad and is easier to obtain (although it contains organic poo).





Question.

Can i get some BnQ organic compost specifically designed for tomatos? Or should i get a bark based organic compost instead? Thats my only options.

Ohh yeah and the real question is, i got some Earth Juice Grow and Bloom (very expensive, very delicious) for my weed cultivation, can i add some of that?

And the final question, do we need to sterilize this shit? As far as i'm aware it's already sterialized and then packed. If we sterilize it again, we might screw up all the NPK ingredients in there, in heat chemical reactions occur which can turn out quite nasty


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: cleaner]
    #1443654 - 04/09/03 05:54 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Can i get some BnQ organic compost specifically designed for tomatos? Or should i get a bark based organic compost instead? Thats my only options.





No, just go to Walmart and get Miracle Grow for Vegatables.

Quote:


Ohh yeah and the real question is, i got some Earth Juice Grow and Bloom (very expensive, very delicious) for my weed cultivation, can i add some of that?




No, don't add any of that.

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And the final question, do we need to sterilize this shit? As far as i'm aware it's already sterialized and then packed. If we sterilize it again, we might screw up all the NPK ingredients in there, in heat chemical reactions occur which can turn out quite nasty



Yes, a good method to pasturize is to take your rubbermade, dump your straw and miracle grow inside, then dump a few pots of boiling water till its submerged. Keep adding boiling water to keep it hot for around 1 hour 30 minutes, then of course you want to drain all of this and put it into another rubbermade.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: cleaner]
    #1443706 - 04/09/03 06:11 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Heh, what did you tell them?

And why do they have surprise inspections?


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: tripndicular]
    #1443745 - 04/09/03 06:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, agree here - these people I know did 12 cakes, then decided to go ahead and do WBS + 60/40 Verm-Coco casings.
None of the cakes worked - but they produced 500g wet fast!

I see the utility in doing cakes - even those that screwed up taught us something about sterility, cultivation, contams and mycellium growth.  But treating it like it's some holy secret is a misconception :smile:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1443791 - 04/09/03 06:35 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes, a good method to pasturize is to take your rubbermade, dump your straw and miracle grow inside, then dump a few pots of boiling water till its submerged. Keep adding boiling water to keep it hot for around 1 hour 30 minutes, then of course you want to drain all of this and put it into another rubbermade.




If you're adding *boiling* water you're surpassing the 160-170 range that defines pastuerization. I think if you were going to do it this way it would be best to heat the water on the stove, then use a cooking thermometer to monitor the temp before pouring it into your container. Now I'm sure you're going to say this method has worked for you before and I don't doubt that, but it's never good to spread misinformation and when you mention "boiling" and "pasteurize" together you might confuse people.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1443797 - 04/09/03 06:36 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Can i get some BnQ organic compost specifically designed for tomatos? Or should i get a bark based organic compost instead? Thats my only options.





No, just go to Walmart and get Miracle Grow for Vegatables.





No that would mean going first to the train station, catching a train to london, then to gatwick, then on the plain and then to wallmart.

Im in UK and the only place we have is BnQ.

As for that surprise inspection, house manager, that bloody bitch enetered my room the other day without any warnings, aparently, cleaners told on me that my room was in a mess and she had to take a look, according to terms and conditions section in 1223423 b it says i have to keep it clean.

Good thing i finished cultivating cannabis last month :wink:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: cleaner]
    #1443845 - 04/09/03 06:52 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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As for that surprise inspection, house manager, that bloody bitch enetered my room the other day without any warnings, aparently, cleaners told on me that my room was in a mess and she had to take a look, according to terms and conditions section in 1223423 b it says i have to keep it clean.

Good thing i finished cultivating cannabis last month :wink: 




If I were you I'd be keeping things nice and clean, and look into securing your future endeavours (change locks if possible, keep questionable activities in a locked bedroom, etc).

Then again some people do like incarceration...


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Uber]
    #1443857 - 04/09/03 06:58 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Hey man, i've been growing weed for 3 month, it was the hardest challange of my life, i know how to be stealthy if i want to.

If only you knew how hard it was.

I dont think you will find another person on the planet who sucessfully grown weed in a dorm.



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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Diploid]
    #1443866 - 04/09/03 07:03 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

i cants really see how a tank full of fruiting cakes is any less suspicious than a tank full of fruiting casings, except one has more shrooms in it.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Uber]
    #1443905 - 04/09/03 07:22 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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Then again some people do like incarceration... 




I've been incarcerated and I've never met anyone who liked it! :smile:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Pantherina]
    #1444018 - 04/09/03 08:01 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Right - but as has been illustrated in several teks, cakes can be fit into soda bottles, very small plastic containers and so on.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: cleaner]
    #1444304 - 04/09/03 09:37 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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I dont think you will find another person on the planet who sucessfully grown weed in a dorm.





Actually I know of at least one personally. As the saying goes, where there's a will there's a way.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Uber]
    #1444326 - 04/09/03 09:41 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Miracle Grow??!  Blaaaaaaahhcck!  Keep it organic!  The chinchilla always uses organic ingredients to keep the trips pure and clean. :tongue:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: robinhood2]
    #1444708 - 04/09/03 11:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I see where you are coming from.  Just saying 3 4x4x5 trays in a PC (yes I know.. $60 extra) give you just a better quality of mushroom.  Not talking bulk, I'm talking a mushroom that can spawn very strong personal strains of Cub's.

  Most Tek's fruiting I've seen were of a weaker variety.  Almost like; starved and just trying to propegate ASAP.  lots of failed pins. 

Whatever gets you off I guess. :smile:  Hell, I'd love the grow room illustrated in "The Mushroom Cultivator" but that isn't going to happen. 


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: PooPs]
    #1445895 - 04/10/03 09:33 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

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I love that pic..... it just fits... Poops




Gawd!  Every time I see it I can almost smell the steam coming off it.  I used to have a big ass German Shepherd.  He used to poop just like that; little swirl on top and everything.  Yikes! :blush:

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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: Diploid]
    #1446074 - 04/10/03 11:30 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)



ha ha... Since you like it so much...... i just wish it had some corn kernels...


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: PooPs]
    #1446116 - 04/10/03 11:58 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

you should put it on an ice cream cone  :grin: 


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: deanofmean]
    #1446180 - 04/10/03 12:24 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)



My friend simply could not resist.  :grin: 


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: dog]
    #1446188 - 04/10/03 12:28 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

:grin:That is too good!


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: no-tone]
    #1446407 - 04/10/03 01:52 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Now put some pins on it :smile:


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1446792 - 04/10/03 03:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

That rocks.... thanks!! i'll set it up later tonight!!!


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: PooPs]
    #1446982 - 04/10/03 04:25 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

I received a question regarding the quart jars..

This is the method Swim prefers.. When you do the quart jars you put the millet into a big pan, add water so that the water comes to about 1/2 inch above the millet, then put the stove on medium and let it cook while stirring for about 15-20 minutes or until it looks like the millet has absorbed the water.. then drain it and fill the quart jars 2/3 full with the millet, then pressure cook.

Another person asked regarding the casing layer.

You can add a casing layer of 5 parts vermiculite 5 parts coco coir (its reptile bedding found at pet smart) and 1 part crushed oyster shell (found at pet smart)..
Make sure to pasturize. This generally improves yields.


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Re: Grow 60+ dry grams Tek [Re: f8L]
    #1448533 - 04/11/03 01:55 AM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Can you just explain the pasturization step? then this tek would make perfect sense.


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