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Offlinetastycake
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shrooms gave me a clear message which I could not follow :(
    #14427818 - 05/10/11 01:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

edit: i will simplify this post
so when i took shrooms a couple yrs ago, the most important lesson i took away from it, was my 'higher soul' telling me you MUST get along with your parents
but the problem is, my mums a verbally abusive narcissist, and my pops is not much better.
so i have basically failed the shrooms because i have decided they no longer belong in my life.
so i wonder if i took shrooms again i will be disappointed in myself. devastated even. or if i will understand.

PS. also the last time i had shrooms, i got the intense feeling that i should never take hallucinogens again, i wrote a mesasge that said throw everything in the trash. so now im scared to trip again..... am i taking these shroom trips too seriously/looking too deep into them?


Edited by tastycake (05/10/11 01:22 AM)


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InvisiblePsilosomniac
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Re: shrooms gave me a clear message which I could not follow :( [Re: tastycake]
    #14427855 - 05/10/11 01:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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tastycake said:
will my higher soul forgive me?? if i took shrooms again would I hate myself for this, or would i understand?

it is sad because that was the clearest message the shrooms gave me last time, and yet that is the thing that i cannot do




Where's Joe Molloy when you need him?

I think you're looking much to far into this.  I had a similar realization when I first tripped;  I wanted to improve my relationship with my father.  I was already doing that though, so it wasn't exactly a profound realization.  In my opinion, there is no "mushroom entity".  It's all in your head, and your unconscious knows what efforts you made to improve your relationship with them.  The issue may or may not go away, because you still have unresolved issues with your parents, regardless of the fact that it's their fault.  You made an effort, and that's what counts.  The problem is that it still upsets you, and that's why the problem may or may not go away;  what that feeling in your trip was was you being upset over the poor relationship you have with your parents.

I don't really believe that higher soul stuff, but I do believe that you have communication between your conscious and unconscious on psychedelics.  I think its your unconscious expressing that the issue is bothering you.  I think you'll be fine to trip again.  Just know that you made the effort, and it was no fault of your own that conditions didn't improve.  Just don't worry about it so much.
:2cents:


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Re: shrooms gave me a clear message which I could not follow :( [Re: Psilosomniac]
    #14427909 - 05/10/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i hope so, i want to trip again but i have been scared because the feelings were so strong the first time, that i shouldnt do it ever again, and this parent stuf


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Re: shrooms gave me a clear message which I could not follow :( [Re: tastycake]
    #14427951 - 05/10/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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tastycake said:
i hope so, i want to trip again but i have been scared because the feelings were so strong the first time, that i shouldnt do it ever again, and this parent stuf




Fear only escalates on psychedelics.
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." -FDR :thumbup:

But seriously, you have to trust that you're going to be alright in order to avoid having an unpleasant time.  I don't think the issue with your parents will come back up unless it's something that is bothering you immensely in this point in your life.  If you're struggling with something like depression because of this issue, then I would argue that these things need to be resolved in one way or another before continued use; that is, whether it's by fixing your relationship with your parents or acknowledging that you did your best and that you're better off keeping your distance.  Repressed troubles are sure to surface on psychedelics, so I would hold off until you are sure you are in the right time in your life to use them.


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Re: shrooms gave me a clear message which I could not follow :( [Re: tastycake]
    #14428232 - 05/10/11 03:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's good that you're acting on the lessons psychedelics teach you. Too many people write off the psychedelic experience as "bullshit" (you know who you are :tongue2:) but I think it can be far more than that... if you let it.

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tastycake said:
also the last time i had shrooms, i got the intense feeling that i should never take hallucinogens again, i wrote a mesasge that said throw everything in the trash




Many of us have had this revelation before. Especially after bad trips. I think this is one of the positive/anti-addictive characteristics of psychedelics. They have a built in limit to how much you can trip before they start to tell you to stop in which after tripping becomes pointless. Some people take many years, but eventually nearly everyone has a break from psychedelics.

YOU know when they call to you though. Just the fact that you made this post indicates that you can feel the call of the fungi - you should go into this experience with an open mind and an open heart and see what it has to show you. Wheather you have an awesome fun trip, or a dark introspective trip you'll come out more powerful than you went in and deep down you'll know wheather or not you need to take more trips.

Good luck. Also I recommend easing back into shrooms. Don't go for full blow trip dose straight up. Do a couple of 1.5-2g weekend fun trips to warm your mind up before you go for the full on psychedelic experience. This will help your ability to process and respond to your trips with greater clarity.

:peace:


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Re: shrooms gave me a clear message which I could not follow :( [Re: Dawks]
    #14429645 - 05/10/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Dawks said:
I think it's good that you're acting on the lessons psychedelics teach you. Too many people write off the psychedelic experience as "bullshit" (you know who you are :tongue2:) but I think it can be far more than that... if you let it.

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tastycake said:
also the last time i had shrooms, i got the intense feeling that i should never take hallucinogens again, i wrote a mesasge that said throw everything in the trash




Many of us have had this revelation before. Especially after bad trips. I think this is one of the positive/anti-addictive characteristics of psychedelics. They have a built in limit to how much you can trip before they start to tell you to stop in which after tripping becomes pointless. Some people take many years, but eventually nearly everyone has a break from psychedelics.

YOU know when they call to you though. Just the fact that you made this post indicates that you can feel the call of the fungi - you should go into this experience with an open mind and an open heart and see what it has to show you. Wheather you have an awesome fun trip, or a dark introspective trip you'll come out more powerful than you went in and deep down you'll know wheather or not you need to take more trips.

Good luck. Also I recommend easing back into shrooms. Don't go for full blow trip dose straight up. Do a couple of 1.5-2g weekend fun trips to warm your mind up before you go for the full on psychedelic experience. This will help your ability to process and respond to your trips with greater clarity.

:peace:




Don't get me wrong, I certainly believe there's room for beneficial experiences and personal betterment in the psychedelic experience, but I don't believe there is some entity attributed with mushrooms.  I think it all comes from within;  it's your unconscious telling you what you already feel and know, just in an unconscious way.  It's similar to the method in which your unconscious spins dreams for you with a message.  You can interpret a trip in the same way you can interpret a dream.

In this situation, I would argue that he knew he was upset about his relationship with his parents.  He just really knew and felt that he was upset.  We all know they can be an amplification of our emotions and feelings.  It's one thing to know you're upset, but it's another to really feel and experience how upset you are about something, or realize what it really is that is so upsetting.

At least that's the way I see it.  I don't think the experience is bullshit, I just think it isn't necessarily "spiritual" in many senses of the word.  I'm not sure what I would describe it as.  I'll have to give that one a thought.  Maybe after a few more trips I'll be able to solidify my beliefs :tongue2:


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Re: shrooms gave me a clear message which I could not follow :( [Re: tastycake]
    #14432626 - 05/10/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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also the last time i had shrooms, i got the intense feeling that i should never take hallucinogens again,




It's true, there is such a thing as a bad trip, and that's it...

:peace:PS


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Re: shrooms gave me a clear message which I could not follow :( [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #14432780 - 05/10/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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PrimalSoup said:
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also the last time i had shrooms, i got the intense feeling that i should never take hallucinogens again,




It's true, there is such a thing as a bad trip, and that's it...

:peace:PS




First trip I had, I remember repeating stuff like "this was a bad idea" and "what have I done?".  I was extremely afraid, and never wanted to do them again.  I guess you really only have this idea if you're having a bad trip.  I can't imagine anybody having a great time and deciding that they don't want to do it anymore.
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