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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: amilibertine]
    #14433864 - 05/11/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Sorry for the rant, but what people fucking assume about things kills me.  I know the Builderberg group is planning shitty things for everyone





really?

what's so shitty

http://www.schnews.org.uk/bilderberg/bilderberg.html


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14433915 - 05/11/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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even the revered wikileaks posted about WMDs being found, they've been
finding small caches for several years, no they were not nukes which is
the first thing that seems to run through people's mind but they were
still WMDs, capable of killing tens of thousands at a time





You support off shore torture camps (u confessed in another thread a few weeks back)  and government propaganda.  :thumbup:  Good man.  :facepalm:



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no, the conspiracy theorists have done that with so many unfounded
speculations




Yes, the conspiracy theorists.  Not humans, not people.  The LABEL...  :facepalm:  Good to see influencing the ego to gain support for the war machine is as simple as it was 100 years ago.  :facepalm:




I give up.  You win.  You're right.  Whatever... take a history lesson and look around you...  carry on believing what your ego wants you to - thats all you will do.


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14433921 - 05/11/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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what's so shitty?







THIS!



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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: amilibertine]
    #14433928 - 05/11/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Funny thing is that people are so sick of the lies of both parties that someone like Ron Paul who speaks the truth best he can and who has wild (to the mainstream, whatever that is) ideals starts to look like a better alternative to the last 6 fucking idiots that have sat in DC.

I will vote for Ron Paul if I can, last time he wasn't on the ballot in the primaries in Ohio.  I voted Nader last general election, I'll be damned if I vote for someone I don't fucking believe in or agree with.  The biggest problem isn't Ron Paul, it's all these people repeating the "he's unelectable" bullshit so much that it's becoming a slogan for his opposition.

He's very electable if the people choose the candidates.




this.

And, Paul's a smart guy and understands that the more he publicly talks about his "outlandish" ideas (give Americans back the right to decide what goes in their bodies without fearing government retribution. my god, that's revolutionary! how dare he!) the more the conversation moves to the center.

I don't think he's as concerned with a potential presidency as he is with an honest discussion about some of the more fucked up things that are happening in America which are being almost completely ignored by the government and the media.

The American people aren't stupid (well, at least not all of them). They can see that we are being screwed from multiple angles and many of them are wanting to hear someone, anyone have an honest, direct conversation about the injustices they see happening all around them.

Paul represents one of the only political figures who gets airtime discussing issues that Americans actually give a fuck about.


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: amilibertine]
    #14433942 - 05/11/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Have you ever been to the US?




I don't need to be there.  I'm in the UK - I have exactly the same shit here.  Its been happening for centuries - just study history.  Its called finance, war and propaganda control.  Don't you guys have history lessons in the USA?


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See the biggest difference between the US and everywhere else is that our forefathers had already dealt with all of that European bullshit




LOL really?  Who gets the dividends from your federal reserve bank?  :lol:


I can't be fucked to educate you - do it yourself - you sound like you never read a history book in your life.


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14433965 - 05/11/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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See the biggest difference between the US and everywhere else is that our forefathers had already dealt with all of that European bullshit




actually:



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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14433985 - 05/11/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
even the revered wikileaks posted about WMDs being found, they've been
finding small caches for several years, no they were not nukes which is
the first thing that seems to run through people's mind but they were
still WMDs, capable of killing tens of thousands at a time





You support off shore torture camps (u confessed in another thread a few weeks back)  and government propaganda.  :thumbup:  Good man.  :facepalm:




you're in favor of giving over the world to terrorists and anti government propaganda

see how these generalizations work... since this is the bit you quoted I'm
assuming that you believe that wikileaks must be a government run clearing
house for disinformation :facepalm:



Quote:

Quote:

no, the conspiracy theorists have done that with so many unfounded
speculations




Yes, the conspiracy theorists.  Not humans, not people.  The LABEL...  :facepalm:  Good to see influencing the ego to gain support for the war machine is as simple as it was 100 years ago.  :facepalm:





are conspiracy theorists  a new species of critter or are they human?


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14433989 - 05/11/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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nice1 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:

what's so shitty?







THIS!






you dont even know what the hell he was talking about in that speech do you?


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: amilibertine]
    #14434009 - 05/11/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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And please, explain to me how when the shit hits the fan and our military (made up of people just like me) turns the guns on the politicians, bankers, corporate whores and cronies; just what is our shadow government going to do to stop us. 





Maybe you should ask not what are they going to do but what they have already done...


And Pris  :facepalm: x 1 million


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14434021 - 05/11/11 09:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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Have you ever been to the US?




I don't need to be there.  I'm in the UK - I have exactly the same shit here.





really? where's your armed, law abiding citizens?









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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14434028 - 05/11/11 09:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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nice1 said:
Quote:

amilibertine said:

And please, explain to me how when the shit hits the fan and our military (made up of people just like me) turns the guns on the politicians, bankers, corporate whores and cronies; just what is our shadow government going to do to stop us. 





Maybe you should ask not what are they going to do but what they have already done...


And Pris  :facepalm: x 1 million





I know... when your argument cant sand up to scrutiny it's best to facepalm


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14434107 - 05/11/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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really? where's your armed, law abiding citizens?












hahaha...Pris, those pics are awesome! americans are amazing in their ability to believe themselves still to be living in "The Wild West". Nation of cowboys, eh? hahaha...:doublefacepalm:


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: gerryjarcia]
    #14434173 - 05/11/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

so you're saying that the average joe doesnt have the right to defend his life against criminals that intend to do harm?

maybe they should wait for the cops, think the murderer will wait while I call 911 to come and save me?

we see how well it works for unarmed citizens, after all, outlawing guns means no one will have them, right

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbria_shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/06/17/australia.shooting.ap/index.html


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14434207 - 05/11/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't have an arguement.  I'm telling you to look at historical fact and compare it with today - but you are so BLINDED by the propaganda they fed your ego....

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you're in favor of giving over the world to terrorists




You buy into that shit they fed you about terror?


The USA is invading countries and taking their resources by stealth (funding dictators through the world bank) or by military force and then you wanna preach about terror?

The people acting on behalf of these agencies are the  terrorists and the USA's policy of world robbery, invasion and funding dictators is creating more terrorists than ever.  The acts perpetrated are both terror and terrorist creators and then they make laws to use against your civilians in that name.  :shrug:  DIVIDE AND CONQUER.  HISTORY REPEATS. 

As soon as you finally realise whats going on and  pull your guns out on your government by then - YOU will be the terrorist.


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14434225 - 05/11/11 10:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

amilibertine said:
Have you ever been to the US?




I don't need to be there.  I'm in the UK - I have exactly the same shit here.  Its been happening for centuries - just study history.  Its called finance, war and propaganda control.  Don't you guys have history lessons in the USA?


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See the biggest difference between the US and everywhere else is that our forefathers had already dealt with all of that European bullshit




LOL really?  Who gets the dividends from your federal reserve bank?  :lol:


I can't be fucked to educate you - do it yourself - you sound like you never read a history book in your life.




I don't need educated by you.  You act like the voters in this country have so much control over what happens.

I didn't vote for the Federal Reserve :rolleyes: 

The US and the UK are the same???? Really???  I seem to remember I was taught in history that we sent your centuries old empire packing, mostly because of your king and his central bank.  Same situation we have now, FOREIGN owned bank stealing all the wealth of this country, whilst the politicians and their wall street buddies ship all our jobs overseas.

Funny, we have 50 states.  Many of them dwarf the size of the island you live on.  When shit hits the fan you're gonna be in a MUCH shitty situation than we are.  Get a clue.  That very same patriotism, or ego as you call it, exists in the military.  It's easier to kill foreigners than it is your own countrymen.  Do I agree with a large part of our military blunders, no.  But I also don't have much control over that.  All I can do is take care of me and my own. 

America is at a crossroads, and now in history things are happening so fast, information travels instantly across the globe, but here at home there is a feeling in the air.  People are tired of being used, and it wont last forever.  If anyone tries to take what we have left, I fear for them. 

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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: amilibertine]
    #14434234 - 05/11/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I didn't vote for the Federal Reserve :rolleyes: 





Did I say you did?

Clearly you do need to be educated because you don't even know where your own currency comes from or goes.


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14434257 - 05/11/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
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Quote:

amilibertine said:
I didn't vote for the Federal Reserve :rolleyes: 





Did I say you did?

Clearly you do need to be educated because you don't even know where your own currency comes from or goes.





Let's see....

Federal Reserve sneaks in on a vote during holiday break.  1913

Federal Reserve creates money from nothing.  Loans it to our government at interest so that the debt can never be repaid.  Needs an ever eager pool of borrowers to continue the scam.  Controls the money supply and thus controls interests rates and inflation.  Uses "fractional reserve banking" to inflate the fake money supply and screw borrowers, ect...

Let's see, ummmmmmmm.  Did I miss anything? 

I know a great deal about the fed.  Once again, leave you assumptions at home.


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14434264 - 05/11/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

reality has no place here buddy. sad but true.


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: nice1]
    #14434314 - 05/11/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't have an arguement.  I'm telling you to look at historical fact and compare it with today -





which historical fact, the ne where a bunch of armed civilians calling
them the militia kicked the ass of one of the most powerful armies in the
world in what we colonials like to call the american revolution

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you're in favor of giving over the world to terrorists




You buy into that shit they fed you about terror?




remember, it's generalizations we were talking about

how about you explain how this war on terror doesnt involve any terrorists


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The USA is invading countries and taking their resources by stealth




bullshit... how much of afghanistan's oil are we importing? how much of
the oil are we taking from iraq? please, answer a question for once
instead of just spewing all this nonsense about what you believe we're
doing yet have absolutely no facts to back it up


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Re: ron paul is a charlatan [Re: amilibertine]
    #14434320 - 05/11/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.






so very true



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