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Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012
    #14425544 - 05/09/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The reason is not because Obama is unbeatable.  He is beatable by the right candidate.

The reason is:  The republicans are going to lose it for us.  The first debate of Republicans, there were 3 candidates who could win for the Repulicans.  They are 1) Ron Paul 2) Gary Johnson 3) Herman Cain.  Only by having a self-determination position on things like drugs and gay marriage is a republican going to pull off enough of the centrist and moderate left to beat Obama.

Candidates like Palin, Gingrich, Mitt Romney, are shop-worn, and have had enough media attacks to marginalize them to the point that they are not electable. 

Candidates like Santorum, 'family values' are going to turn-off the moderates.  Pawlenty is seen as too much of a slick poly. 

The Republicans will attack and marginalize a pro-drug candidate like Ron Paul.  They want the establishment person whose 'turn' it is to run.  Much like the MORON McCain that was presented in 2008.  They are also going to get someone who spouts nonsense about family values etc, when the real issues are the economy.

That leaves Trump.  Well......

And Obama.  The arrogant, lying shill for Goldman Sachs who gives billions to his favorite banks and companies--and broke his thin promises about drugs.  As well as his promises on just about everything else.  He is nothing but BUSH ON STEROIDS.  In fact, now that 'Usama' is dead, why aren't the troops coming home.  (Hint, it is because Obama is a globalist just like Bush was).

SO what I see happening is a fractured republican side because the republicans would rather have a 'family values' person there than a
"Legalize drugs' person...they will get their family values candidate in, and a more liberal person like Ron Paul will suck off votes because no 'family values' Republican is going to vote for 'drugs'.  And no social liberal will vote for a Gingrich or a Palin or Santorum.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ron Paul attacked as wanting to 'harm the children' or some fucking bullshit nonsense. 

Obama wins, and we all end up sucking wind.


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14425565 - 05/09/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The United States would be so much different with a Republican president...


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14425571 - 05/09/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The United States would be so much different with a Republican president...





You missed the point entirely.


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14425573 - 05/09/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
The United States would be so much different with a Republican president...




Best use of sarcasm ever.


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14425578 - 05/09/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It would start to change if it was not just another pawn looking for "the job" to set them up for life and actually gives a shit about the country.


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14425582 - 05/09/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
The United States would be so much different with a Republican president...




Best use of sarcasm ever.





You missed the point too.  It ISNT about getting a Republican President.  It's about getting a LIBERTARIAN president, which is worlds different. 


SOrry, but how is Obama working out for you all?


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: 4runner]
    #14425588 - 05/09/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It would start to change if it was not just another pawn looking for "the job" to set them up for life and actually gives a shit about the country.




Highly doubtful. The President is a figurehead and little else. I mean, I guess he has the presidential veto... But that doesn't do much for getting legislation PASSED.


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14425594 - 05/09/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
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SlashOZ said:
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ifoundwaldo said:
The United States would be so much different with a Republican president...




Best use of sarcasm ever.





You missed the point too.  It ISNT about getting a Republican President.  It's about getting a LIBERTARIAN president, which is worlds different. 


SOrry, but how is Obama working out for you all?




OK. Then let me rephrase my statement.

The United States would be entirely different with a Libertarian president.


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14425612 - 05/09/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
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starfire_xes said:
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SlashOZ said:
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ifoundwaldo said:
The United States would be so much different with a Republican president...




Best use of sarcasm ever.





You missed the point too.  It ISNT about getting a Republican President.  It's about getting a LIBERTARIAN president, which is worlds different. 


SOrry, but how is Obama working out for you all?




OK. Then let me rephrase my statement.

The United States would be entirely different with a Libertarian president.



The United States would be entirely different with a non-puppet president


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14425614 - 05/09/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
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It would start to change if it was not just another pawn looking for "the job" to set them up for life and actually gives a shit about the country.




Highly doubtful. The President is a figurehead and little else. I mean, I guess he has the presidential veto... But that doesn't do much for getting legislation PASSED.




No but it can sure help in getting things BLOCKED.


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: starfire_xes]
    #14425632 - 05/09/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
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SlashOZ said:
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ifoundwaldo said:
The United States would be so much different with a Republican president...




Best use of sarcasm ever.





You missed the point too.  It ISNT about getting a Republican President.  It's about getting a LIBERTARIAN president, which is worlds different. 


SOrry, but how is Obama working out for you all?




I'm not an idiot, thank you.

Obama isn't working out for me, I go to the gym on my own.

I voted for Ron Paul in the last presidential election and I almost always vote libertarian in local elections.

Preaching to the choir here bro. Also, your OP was so blatantly pro libertarian I'm surprised you think anyone could possibly miss the point. :facepalm:


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14425653 - 05/09/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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SlashOZ said:
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starfire_xes said:
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SlashOZ said:
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ifoundwaldo said:
The United States would be so much different with a Republican president...




Best use of sarcasm ever.





You missed the point too.  It ISNT about getting a Republican President.  It's about getting a LIBERTARIAN president, which is worlds different. 


SOrry, but how is Obama working out for you all?




I'm not an idiot, thank you.

Obama isn't working out for me, I go to the gym on my own.

I voted for Ron Paul in the last presidential election and I almost always vote libertarian in local elections.

Preaching to the choir here bro. Also, your OP was so blatantly pro libertarian I'm surprised you think anyone could possibly miss the point. :facepalm:





Well, yes.  Why should I vote for any of the fucking tools the DEMS and REPUBS want to stick in there?  Anyone who likes to roast a bone should avoid Establishment Repubs and Dems like they have Un-curable Flesh-eating staph.


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Re: Why the Republicans, and All of US, Lose in 2012 [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14425692 - 05/09/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:ronpaul:

We cant just keep printing money out of fucking no where man. The banks should of been allowed to fail, thats the market speaking loud and clear"GET OUT". Competition should of ensued and better banks would have emerged. Instead we inherited their debts and the only reason we were able to print money out of thin air to pay it off is because we are the worlds reserve currency.
What happens when our dollar keeps going to shit and we are ditched as the worlds reserve currency? Happened to the shilling in Britain..

RP's our only chance man.. he can pull our troops out. BAM 100 billion right there. Troops out of south korea, BAM few dozen billion right there


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