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OfflineADDiCtEd2You
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Why?
    #14425090 - 05/09/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Why is it no matter how hard i try not to think about heroin the more i want it? I have been trying to cut it out of my life but its just not working. I want to slip right now so bad but on the other hand i dont want to.. I guess i just dont know what to do anymore :/


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OfflineAnthony917
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Re: Why? [Re: ADDiCtEd2You]
    #14425137 - 05/09/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

the more you think about not doing it, the more you will want to do it.
try and stay busy, keep your mind off of doing drugs.

go for a run, or do something to keep ur mind off the junk...


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OfflineGreenvalley
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Re: Why? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14425146 - 05/09/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

quick dont think about a pink buffalo!...what did you think of...a pink buffalo.

occupy your mind with other activities. and find a new passion or fix(a healthy fix) to take the place of H


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Re: Why? [Re: ADDiCtEd2You]
    #14425147 - 05/09/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ADDiCtEd2You said:
Why is it no matter how hard i try not to think about heroin the more i want it? I have been trying to cut it out of my life but its just not working. I want to slip right now so bad but on the other hand i dont want to.. I guess i just dont know what to do anymore :/






have you ever tried mushrooms or Acid?

if yes have you ever tried ibogaine?


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OfflineAntiEverything
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Re: Why? [Re: Anthony917]
    #14425158 - 05/09/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

don't validate you're identity as an addict by the perpetual reflection that you want; but can't have heroin, this viewpoint is dehumanizing, and limits the addict to an either/or dichotomy; either addicted or sober. that isn't how life works. don't let the heroin sheik control you. be who you are, you weren't born an addict. in order for the ego to actualize, it needs something external to identify itself; create something new, be spontaneous, learn yourself through experience. heroin is anti-experience.

also seeking to fix your problem with other drugs is a slippery slope. sure, you could come out the other-side with a greater understanding of your addiction, etc, but he seems to already understand that his addiction is harmful. looking at one drug through the lense of another only validates his dependence on chemicals to solve his problems. seek yourself to fix these problems, the ego identifies itself through reflection & external social recognition. be something and you will realize yourself.


Edited by AntiEverything (05/09/11 03:27 PM)


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Offlineamilibertine
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Re: Why? [Re: AntiEverything]
    #14425236 - 05/09/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

AntiEverything said:
don't validate you're identity as an addict by the perpetual reflection that you want; but can't have heroin, this viewpoint is dehumanizing, and limits the addict to an either/or dichotomy; either addicted or sober. that isn't how life works. don't let the heroin sheik control you. be who you are, you weren't born an addict. in order for the ego to actualize, it needs something external to identify itself; create something new, be spontaneous, learn yourself through experience. heroin is anti-experience.

also seeking to fix your problem with other drugs is a slippery slope. sure, you could come out the other-side with a greater understanding of your addiction, etc, but he seems to already understand that his addiction is harmful. looking at one drug through the lense of another only validates his dependence on chemicals to solve his problems. seek yourself to fix these problems, the ego identifies itself through reflection & external social recognition. be something and you will realize yourself.




I really needed to hear that.  Thank you.


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Re: Why? [Re: amilibertine]
    #14426247 - 05/09/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

identify your desire for something as just a thought.

that's all it is. a little tiny thought. accept it as a thought and let it pass through your mind, don't pay any more attention to it then that.


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Re: Why? [Re: lovecheese]
    #14426256 - 05/09/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Might sound a bit impractical, but try to get a hold of some ibogaine :shrug:


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Re: Why? [Re: Caine]
    #14426290 - 05/09/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Caine said:
Might sound a bit impractical, but try to get a hold of some ibogaine :shrug:




yeah shrooms or acid first, if they don't work go for an iboga treatment or 24hr detox care.


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OfflineFungal-one
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Re: Why? [Re: Caine]
    #14426300 - 05/09/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The mental addiction is wicked with that shit. When I did my ibogaine my mom didn't pick up my needle and spoon from by the bed (nurse suggested I do my normal bedtime ritual and bag three bags) and when I came too the next day, still no where near able to walk or anything, I put water on that cotton and did me little shot. It took forever to get it done but I did it, all flat on my back too. When I saw that blood shoot up in that syringe and I emptied that bitch out, I went right back to sleep. Even though I wasn't sick I wanted to feel that pin prick so fucking bad. It took a while to beat the mental part of it.


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Re: Why? [Re: druqs]
    #14426310 - 05/09/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

can't you use in moderation?

either you want to do it or you never want to do it again.

my use typically goes like this: get high, nod like a mofo, smoke weed possibly, pass the fuck out. next day i've got a hangover and am not inclined to use. probably drink a few beers/chill. then i don't use for the rest of the week.

i understand the power of this drug and i respect it.


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InvisibleCaine
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Re: Why? [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14426316 - 05/09/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, according to wikipedia it interrupts physical addiction in something like 70% of the attempts, though. Pretty amazing stuff, props to you for getting a hold of it... Sounds like a life changing experience for sure.


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Re: Why? [Re: ADDiCtEd2You]
    #14426408 - 05/09/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

KrishnaDreamer said:
can't you use in moderation?

either you want to do it or you never want to do it again.

my use typically goes like this: get high, nod like a mofo, smoke weed possibly, pass the fuck out. next day i've got a hangover and am not inclined to use. probably drink a few beers/chill. then i don't use for the rest of the week.

I understand the power of this drug and I respect it.



I've seen people do it. It's not worth your time
to try and gain heroins respect.

Quote:

Caine said:
Might sound a bit impractical, but try to get a hold of some ibogaine :shrug:




This is her first post it looks like maybe.
See if shes tried a some of the other
psychedelics then she might be ready for
the Iboga treatment.

Quote:

amilibertine said:
Quote:

AntiEverything said:
don't validate you're identity as an addict by the perpetual reflection that you want; but can't have heroin, this viewpoint is dehumanizing, and limits the addict to an either/or dichotomy; either addicted or sober. that isn't how life works. don't let the heroin sheik control you. be who you are, you weren't born an addict. in order for the ego to actualize, it needs something external to identify itself; create something new, be spontaneous, learn yourself through experience. heroin is anti-experience.

also seeking to fix your problem with other drugs is a slippery slope. sure, you could come out the other-side with a greater understanding of your addiction, etc, but he seems to already understand that his addiction is harmful. looking at one drug through the lense of another only validates his dependence on chemicals to solve his problems. seek yourself to fix these problems, the ego identifies itself through reflection & external social recognition. be something and you will realize yourself.




I really needed to hear that.  Thank you.




-Same

I still struggle with this shit it's fucked up.
AntiEverything. I would guess that your preaching
from experience. If not my bad. I would say this
guy has the right idea. Addicted2you go with this
                                                      one.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



Quote:

ADDiCtEd2You said:
Why is it no matter how hard i try not to think about heroin the more i want it? I have been trying to cut it out of my life but its just not working. I want to slip right now so bad but on the other hand i dont want to.. I guess i just dont know what to do anymore :/




Their are friends here that do want to help.
Doesn't matter if their real. Only matters
that this place can be used as one of your many
tools. I support you in your quest for healing.

Peace\\//

Sage-


Edited by Sage (05/09/11 07:32 PM)


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OfflineAntiEverything
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Re: Why? [Re: amilibertine]
    #14426983 - 05/09/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:Awemazing:


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Re: Why? [Re: Sage]
    #14428364 - 05/10/11 05:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Sage said:
Quote:

KrishnaDreamer said:
can't you use in moderation?

either you want to do it or you never want to do it again.

my use typically goes like this: get high, nod like a mofo, smoke weed possibly, pass the fuck out. next day i've got a hangover and am not inclined to use. probably drink a few beers/chill. then i don't use for the rest of the week.

I understand the power of this drug and I respect it.



I've seen people do it. It's not worth your time
to try and gain heroins respect.

Quote:

Caine said:
Might sound a bit impractical, but try to get a hold of some ibogaine :shrug:




This is her first post it looks like maybe.
See if shes tried a some of the other
psychedelics then she might be ready for
the Iboga treatment.

Quote:

amilibertine said:
Quote:

AntiEverything said:
don't validate you're identity as an addict by the perpetual reflection that you want; but can't have heroin, this viewpoint is dehumanizing, and limits the addict to an either/or dichotomy; either addicted or sober. that isn't how life works. don't let the heroin sheik control you. be who you are, you weren't born an addict. in order for the ego to actualize, it needs something external to identify itself; create something new, be spontaneous, learn yourself through experience. heroin is anti-experience.

also seeking to fix your problem with other drugs is a slippery slope. sure, you could come out the other-side with a greater understanding of your addiction, etc, but he seems to already understand that his addiction is harmful. looking at one drug through the lense of another only validates his dependence on chemicals to solve his problems. seek yourself to fix these problems, the ego identifies itself through reflection & external social recognition. be something and you will realize yourself.




I really needed to hear that.  Thank you.




-Same

I still struggle with this shit it's fucked up.
AntiEverything. I would guess that your preaching
from experience. If not my bad. I would say this
guy has the right idea. Addicted2you go with this
                                                      one.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



Quote:

ADDiCtEd2You said:
Why is it no matter how hard i try not to think about heroin the more i want it? I have been trying to cut it out of my life but its just not working. I want to slip right now so bad but on the other hand i dont want to.. I guess i just dont know what to do anymore :/




Their are friends here that do want to help.
Doesn't matter if their real. Only matters
that this place can be used as one of your many
tools. I support you in your quest for healing.

Peace\\//

Sage-



Did you just call me/us a tool?

:crankey:


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Re: Why? [Re: Sage]
    #14428664 - 05/10/11 07:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Sage said:
Their are friends here that do want to help.
Doesn't matter if their real. Only matters
that this place can be used as one of your many
tools. I support you in your quest for healing.

Peace\\//

Sage-




I said this place can be used as a tool...


In fact I said "Their are friends here
that do want to help. Doesn't matter
if their real."

"friends"

Sage-


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Re: Why? [Re: Sage]
    #14428765 - 05/10/11 08:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Get a sense of humor.


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Re: Why? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14428918 - 05/10/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thats what I forgot....
The LoL


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