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Offlineakistrodon
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When do you know your ready?
    #14424825 - 05/09/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have been interested in Pyschedellics for about a year now. I have smoked Cannabis for about a year now aswell.
I was wondering how you know when you are ready to move up, and experience a stonger trip experience.
The closest thing to a trip ive had was 12 Grams of Heavly Blue Morning Glory Seeds. It was amazing, so insightful, I have craved doing that again since ive done it.
I am currently reading "DMT: The Spirit Molecule", it amazes me. I want to experience it so bad, but im worried it may be too much.
During my two LSA experiances I had moments of regret, saying to myself, "Had I poisoned myself?", "Should I call 911?", "Is this death?", things along that manner.
It didnt last long, just happend randomly, but I was wondering if DMT can cause such thoughts.
I would like to move up the line of substances.. Cannabis, LSA, Mushrooms, LSD, then finally DMT. But Mushrooms are wayy to expensive here (I live with my parents so I cannot grow my own), LSD has too many adverse affects with how crappy it is made around here, so that leaves DMT and LSA.
Has anyone had drastic life changes after haveing an intense Pyschedelic Experience?
I plan on making my own DMT this Summer, but id like to hear your opinons.
For the record, any substance I do, I do for a reason. I do not jump into things just to "Get messed up". Thats hard for kids my age to understand, but I do not do things without a knowledge of what im doing. I do not want anyone to think im doing this just to get high.
Sorry for such a long post!

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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: akistrodon]
    #14424848 - 05/09/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

LSD has the same adverse effects as shrooms or DMT. Not any more dangerous by any means. But you do run the risk of getting DOx or some research chem, but it's easy to tell when that happens because the blotter tastes disgusting.

To answer your question. You'll never be ready for DMT. I had 6 years of experience tripping when I finally got DMT and I was still blown away. Just do it.

As for your very limited options... you can't grow mushrooms... but have you looked into hunting? There are hundreds of species of psilocybin mushrooms growing in every corner of the world. Do some research about which species grow in your area and how to identify them. It will take a lot of research and time spent hunting, but it will be totally worth it!


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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14424858 - 05/09/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

also my advice for extracting DMT... DON'T USE NAPTHA!!! Shit is fucking disgusting and toxic. Try using a safer solvent like d-limonene, or even a different tek like FASA (Fumaric Acid Saturated Acetone).


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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14424884 - 05/09/11 02:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ive heard so many stories of people getting 'Dirty' LSD and it destryoing their mental function. A story in particular,my friend claims to know someone who, to this day, belives he is a glass of orange juice from another dimension.

I read there was a chemical, it started with a 'Ph', but I don't recall exactly what it is, but they commonly add it to LSD to get more money for a smaller batch.

On the topic of Mushroom Hunting, I have hunted quite alot in the past few weeks. I live in the Central United States so they should be pretty common! I have found alot of Mushrooms, none of which are 'Magic Mushrooms'.

And for DMT, thats what I have heard, that you can never be ready. But its something that I want to experience. I understand Pyschedelics are not always fun, but just the ego destrucion is was I really want.

From one of my intense 12 Gram LSA Trips, I felt so.. So new, I looked in the mirror, and I felt as if I was a differnt human being? I was convinced I could see the world, through the perspective of Mother Nature, all its spirits, and life.

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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14424903 - 05/09/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The man's right you will never be ready. All you can do is try to be somewhat prepared.

Don't be scared of LSD. Its a lot better than LSA. Mescaline is an option for you as well. Probably more beginner-friendly, especially compared to DMT. But it does last a long time. Look up psychedelic cacti.


Honestly I think mushrooms are the best for a beginner but there are no rules with this kind of thing. 13 year old kids drink ayahuasca in shaman circles, you can bet they aren't ready for it. You can't be ready for that kind of thing. You either have it in you or you don't. I think for most people what it really comes down to is how much you want it. Some mentally unstable people shouldn't mess around at all with these tools. But for most people there is a decision to be made - to destroy myself (ego) or not? For most people the obvious answer is no, and many of them destroy themselves physically instead with alcohol and tobacco. To knowingly and willingly put yourself through the DMT experience takes a lot of balls. The first time is probably the easiest honestly, unless you're a big reader like me and you know what you're getting yourself into.


:shrug: DMT is too powerful for me. I'm not ready yet. I'm coming back to it in a couple years. I want to keep it mellow right now. I'd probably smoke a low dose...

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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: akistrodon]
    #14424909 - 05/09/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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akistrodon said:
A story in particular,my friend claims to know someone who, to this day, belives he is a glass of orange juice from another dimension.



jESUS cHRIST how many times are people going to keep repeating that. Its been going on since before most of us were born I'm sure.

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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: drr]
    #14424939 - 05/09/11 02:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its not that im scared of LSD, its the fact im scared about it ruining the rest of my life.

I know LSD itself is not dangerous, but some of the Chemicals they can add to it, can cause Flash Backs or HPPD, and im scared that if I was driving ect ect and I had a flash back, it could be dangerous.

I know Flash Backs do not happen to everyone, but its just a concern of mine. Since LSA I feel as if my imagination is more vivid, and my Cannabis experiances are much more Close Eyed Visual, Seeing things come to life within my mind. I dont know, It may just be me!

Mescaline has also be an interest of mine. San Pedro Cacti contains Mescaline, correct?

I am ready for an Ego Destruction experience, I feel as a human being, it is something I MUST do before I die. And who knows when im going to die?

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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: akistrodon]
    #14425013 - 05/09/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:dontspillme: You mean THIS GUY?

:ilold:

People don't "add" chemicals to LSD blotter. There's not strychnine, or whatever. Those are all myths, and the reason this site exists is to help kids like you find accurate information.

The only thing you really have to worry about with acid is that what you get isn't actually acid. If you get REAL LSD you're golden. People will commonly get blotter that has other chemicals, phenethylamines like DOI, DOM, DOC, 5-MeO-AMT, etc. These chemicals aren't necessarily dangerous if used responsibly, but they are more physically dangerous than LSD and can easily make you trip for like 2 or 3 days straight. No Joke! But you'll know if you've gotten blotter with any of these chemicals on them because when you put it on your tongue it will TASTE LIKE CHEMICALS!!! Super nasty and bitter. Just spit the stuff out or clear your schedule for the next few days. Also, some of those chems take 3 hours to kick in so people will accidentally think that they aren't working and take more after only an hour or two.

As for HPPD and making you crazy, blah blah blah. Those risks exist for ALL psychedelic drugs. DMT gave me really bad panic attacks for a while after I had a rough experience with it. I've had perma-trip for years but weed really makes it come out. If you're talking about the classic psychedelics like LSD, shrooms, mescaline, and DMT, they are all equally perilous for your mind and mental health. None is really "safer" than any other, but together they are all quite safe if used properly and responsibly.

If you don't want to ruin the rest of your life this is what you don't do:

Don't take excessively high doses. Don't trip in public. Don't try to trip every day or even every week. Once a month should be more than enough. Don't take sketchy drugs that you aren't sure what they are (stay away from research chemicals, mysterious white powders, and pressed "extacy" pills). If you eat mushrooms, make sure you've identified it properly and don't eat something that will kill you. DON'T FUCKING DRIVE WHILE TRIPPING.

Basically, act like a grown up and respect your body and respect your drugs and you should be fine. I'm not saying it won't be a rough and bumpy journey, but you won't ruin your life.


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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14425227 - 05/09/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What is the easiest extraction tek that does not require the use of naphta?


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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: chronicsmoker817]
    #14425472 - 05/09/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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What is the easiest extraction tek that does not require the use of naphta?




There's nothing wrong with using naphta. Just make sure the crystals are absolutely dry.

If you adamant about swapping out naphta for a food-safe substitute, see if you can find d-limonene and do the tek like you'd do using naphta.

Good luck.

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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14426553 - 05/09/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
also my advice for extracting DMT... DON'T USE NAPTHA!!! Shit is fucking disgusting and toxic. Try using a safer solvent like d-limonene, or even a different tek like FASA (Fumaric Acid Saturated Acetone).




no

its just simple chemistry.


naptha and sodium hydroxide used in the stb tek, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10089233/fpart/1/vc/1 , produce straight dmt and few plat oils sometimes, vm&p naptha doesnt leave residue when evaporated

but other precautions can be take to wash the dmt crystals:cool:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11738356#11738356



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Re: When do you know your ready? [Re: 34120060]
    #14427088 - 05/09/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

dude, it didn't matter how long I let my crystals sit out, they still smelled like naptha. While doing the extraction my throat got sore from the fumes even though we had every door and window in the house open. There's no good way to dispose of the stuff. Take a look at the toxicity of the stuff...

It's just nasty shit and I'll never use it again. There's other ways to extract DMT and naptha is just the easiest solvent to find.


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