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OfflinePrisoner5
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Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas?
    #14424370 - 05/09/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

First things first: Hello Shroomery! Been coming to the website for a while, never signed up though. First posting.

Last week SWIM managed to obtain about 3 feet of Echinopsis Peruviana subsp. Puquiensis (Peruvian Torch Cactus). After chopping about 1.5 feet of it into little cubes, SWIM put the cubes into tupperware and froze it about 3 times over the next 2 days (freeze, thaw, freeze, thaw, etc) since he read that it helps reduce slime and breaks down the cell walls, making it easier to process out the trippy goodness. After allowing it to defrost the final time, SWIM was able to blend about half of it (the blender broke after that). The rest SWIM chopped up very finely and threw in a pot with the blended sludge. SWIM then added juice from 2 lemons and lukewarm water until it reached a soupy consistency, and let it simmer for 5 hours, covered on and off and stirred every once in a while. SWIM then strained it through a shirt, and, not having time to reuse the solids, chucked em out, then poured the liquids back into the pot and simmered those for a half hour or so, reducing it to about.75 volume. At this point what SWIM had was a slightly thick cloudy concoction smelling slightly of apple compote and tasting like a goblin's gallbladder. SWIM refridgerated it for 4 hours in glass bottles (the yield was about 1.5 wine bottles), then put them in his bag, and hopped on a train for 4 hours. At that point he drank about a third of this, and waited.
and waited.
and waited.
No effect whatsoever.

Anyone have any idea what went wrong?
SWIM has some Syrian Rue coming to help activate it, but that is just intended to amplify.
This was SWIM's first time trying to make mescaline.


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Edited by Prisoner5 (05/09/11 01:49 PM)


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InvisiblePrisoner#1
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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner5]
    #14435975 - 05/11/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner5 said:
First things first: Hello Shroomery! Been coming to the website for a while, never signed up though. First posting.






hello son :smirk:


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14436064 - 05/11/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

well, its hard to read your post kinda..
maybe edit it up into chunks not one giant chunk of text..

but from what i got you only did one pull from your cactus and usually about 3 is the minimun amount required..

maybe next time do a few more pulls then combine all the final liquids and then reduce for a more concentrated and extracted product


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OfflineHarryL
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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14436110 - 05/11/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How much water did you use?  No expert, but without being blended, might have wanted to do series extractions.... Extract, drain, repeat a few times... Think freezing and thawing helps...

Used 18 inch?  So, you only took 1/3 of that? Might have wanted to take a foot or more... Think there is a lot of variation in potency... Might be weak cactus..


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: HarryL]
    #14436130 - 05/11/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

HarryL said:
How much water did you use?  No expert, but without being blended, might have wanted to do series extractions.... Extract, drain, repeat a few times... Think freezing and thawing helps...

Used 18 inch?  So, you only took 1/3 of that? Might have wanted to take a foot or more... Think there is a lot of variation in potency... Might be weak cactus..




um what?
who said i took 1/3rd of anything
i didnt use any water>? hahah

what are you talking about


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner5]
    #14436203 - 05/11/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What a clusterfuck of a post.  This is your first introduction to the community and this is the impression you project as you walk through the door?  Tuck your pants in, comb your hair, iron that wrinkled shirt, and have some respect, son.

Did you boil 3 feet or 1.5 feet of cactus?  I can't tell.  You should have done three pulls though.  Drinking a third of your cactus tea would be pointless if you cooked 1.5 feet and mild if you cooked 3 feet depending on the strength of your material.

Next time buy a foot of bridgesii, boil it three times, drink the whole goddamned thing and stop pussyfooting around.


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14437357 - 05/11/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Mamdb dude or dudette ... Wtf is your problem?? Someone tries to help and you give me shit??? The questions are for the OP... Did your read it?

They said "... [added]...from 2 lemons a lukewarm water until it reached.."

So, yes.. They used water

They said:

'At that point he drank about a third of this, and waited'

Assuming this meant they took 1/3 of the total extraction

Old saying ' better to be thought a fool, then open your mouth an alleviate any doubt.'


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Edited by HarryL (05/11/11 10:15 PM)


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: HarryL]
    #14437797 - 05/11/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Prisoner5, you made tea from 18 inches of Peruvian Torch and drank 1/3 of that?

I do not think that is nearly enough to get any effect.


It seems like you have the tea making process correct though :thumbup:


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner5]
    #14437814 - 05/11/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner5 said:
First things first: Hello Shroomery! Been coming to the website for a while, never signed up though. First posting.

Last week SWIM managed to obtain about 3 feet of Echinopsis Peruviana subsp. Puquiensis (Peruvian Torch Cactus). After chopping about 1.5 feet of it into little cubes, SWIM put the cubes into tupperware and froze it about 3 times over the next 2 days (freeze, thaw, freeze, thaw, etc) since he read that it helps reduce slime and breaks down the cell walls, making it easier to process out the trippy goodness. After allowing it to defrost the final time, SWIM was able to blend about half of it (the blender broke after that). The rest SWIM chopped up very finely and threw in a pot with the blended sludge. SWIM then added juice from 2 lemons and lukewarm water until it reached a soupy consistency, and let it simmer for 5 hours, covered on and off and stirred every once in a while. SWIM then strained it through a shirt, and, not having time to reuse the solids, chucked em out, then poured the liquids back into the pot and simmered those for a half hour or so, reducing it to about.75 volume. At this point what SWIM had was a slightly thick cloudy concoction smelling slightly of apple compote and tasting like a goblin's gallbladder. SWIM refridgerated it for 4 hours in glass bottles (the yield was about 1.5 wine bottles), then put them in his bag, and hopped on a train for 4 hours. At that point he drank about a third of this, and waited.
and waited.
and waited.
No effect whatsoever.

Anyone have any idea what went wrong?
SWIM has some Syrian Rue coming to help activate it, but that is just intended to amplify.
This was SWIM's first time trying to make mescaline.



You clearly forgot to bring a towel.


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: HarryL]
    #14439233 - 05/12/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

HarryL said:
Mamdb dude or dudette ... Wtf is your problem?? Someone tries to help and you give me shit??? The questions are for the OP... Did your read it?

They said "... [added]...from 2 lemons a lukewarm water until it reached.."

So, yes.. They used water

They said:

'At that point he drank about a third of this, and waited'

Assuming this meant they took 1/3 of the total extraction

Old saying ' better to be thought a fool, then open your mouth an alleviate any doubt.'




hahha OOOKK SORRRRRY BROTHER DAMN,
is it a huge fucking mistake to read a post wrong?
i thought that it was the OP! So SORRRY fuckin "HARRYL"


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: joemolloy]
    #14439550 - 05/12/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

joemolloy said:
Next time buy a foot of bridgesii, boil it three times, drink the whole goddamned thing and stop pussyfooting around.




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OfflinePrisoner5
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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #14440597 - 05/12/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you all. I apologize for the big block of text, I'm not a huge fan of paragraphs. And sorry about the "SWIM" format, I was led to believe that is standard for these boards, but it does make it harder to read.
So essentially I just need to do more boilings and greater reduction? Thanks. I figured it was that, I just had a time crunch and hoped it would be strong enough.
I'll post the results of the next time, with the syrian rue.
I read that on average Peruvian Torch is 2-4x stronger than San Pedro, hence my dose choice.


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner5]
    #14441704 - 05/12/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This is only a handful of posts for this member and this is the love we show our new members?! Not everyone knows EXACTLY how to post and in this community we're not exactly talking about topics that are considered legal for the most part. I don't particularly care for the SWIM reference either, but show some respect people. There's no reason to lash out at someone just because they haven't quite gotten down how to post or done so in an easy to read format.

We were all newbies at one time or another so please try and be mindful of what you're saying to our new members, especially those who are clearly trying to gain insight into a legitimate topic and have asked in a respectful manner.

Welcome to the Shroomery Prisoner5! :cool:


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OfflinePrisoner5
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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Wronguy]
    #14442090 - 05/12/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man. Is there a more accepted format that isn't just standard written english with self-incrimination?


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OfflineRemix
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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner5]
    #14442713 - 05/12/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner5 said:
SWIM then added juice from 2 lemons and lukewarm water until it reached a soupy consistency, and let it simmer for 5 hours, covered on and off and stirred every once in a while. SWIM then strained it through a shirt, and, not having time to reuse the solids,




This could be where you went wrong:

1) Use more lemons.

2) Simmer for more than 5 hours. 6-8 is a good target range.

3) Repeat the simmering process at least twice, 3 times is what I, personally, recommend.


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner5]
    #14442735 - 05/12/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner5 said:
Thanks man. Is there a more accepted format that isn't just standard written english with self-incrimination?




If they get a warrant to ask your ISP for your posts, you're fooked long ago.


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: Prisoner5]
    #14442897 - 05/12/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner5 said:
Thanks man. Is there a more accepted format that isn't just standard written english with self-incrimination?



Self incrimination is a requirement here at the shroomery. If you had read the terms you agreed to when you registered...You are now in a police database of potential drug dealer/manufacturers :agentgtfo: They are watching you

No swimming allowed now what is your address


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Re: Echinopsis Peruviana Tea Fail- Any ideas? [Re: drr]
    #14442909 - 05/12/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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