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14g dry dose intense body load.
    #14423264 - 05/09/11 06:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey there,

Well last Wednesday I walked to the nearest river, left at 8:30am got there at 10:30 and then started munching on my bag of dry until I got down to the water, but never ended up getting there half hour after I ate the shrooms I saw this really big hill and thought to myself I have to sit there...

Being a river I go to often and having all day, I wasn't too worried about getting lost, or having a too strong a dose, although I probably could have done with a sitter.

I got to the top of the hill by 12 and was feeling intensely strange, it was like the peak of a 3.5g dose but getting stronger by the second, I checked the time at this point and noticed that it was 12 and thought to myself I have to get moving because I have to be home by 9pm even though I had alot of time to waste I started walking home, on the way back to the road I found myself lost in a field of thistle but i could feel it rubbing against my legs and arms (when i got home i was cursing myself for not wearing long sleeves or pants) this is where it got really weird....

All of a sudden I just collapsed and my feet stopped working, I dont know weather it was toxins from the thistles or me stupidly consuming a couple of wrong mushrooms, but then as I looked up at the clouds i say them move in the most amazing way to form a face, I was then staring at the ace thinking i know this face... i have seen it before, and then it clicked, the face was my really close friend who passed away 8 months ago, which I am still having a hard time coming to the realization that shit happens so suddenly.(I had a bit of a rough time for what felt like hours lying in a field of thistles near some cows)

then i snapped too after hearing some cows moo, and I laid there eyes closed thinking i was meant to be on my way back home not in a patch of thistles, so i went to stand only to find some cows standing over me, which was weird because there was a bull in the paddock i walked through to get there and i was worried about him being all territorial, but after seeing them all standing there I thought that they were just worried for my well being because of me stumbling through the field like a sick animal, and it made me feel alot better.

So I went to carry on my walk but this is when I really started to notice some strange body effects, and this would have been about +4 hours after dosing, my thumb would not work, i couldn't touch my thumb to my index finger, and i could only take about 3 - 5 steps before just collapsing to the ground, which lasted until 8pm the same night, i ended up not being able to walk home and had to call a friend to come pick me up, this is where i notices that i couldn't talk properly and it sounded like i was pinching my nose every-time i spoke.

It has left me wondering though.... are they normal Body effects for that high a dose of dried Psilocybe Sub? Because I have been interested in large doses but if that's an expected effect i think i would rather stick to lager doses of LSD than Shrooms

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14423286 - 05/09/11 06:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I never get that much body load, but I get much more out of my gourd mentally. You seem like you were pretty lucid through the whole ordeal...usually at those amounts I think the world is coming to an end but i feel fairly normal physically...maybe a little drained.

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14423303 - 05/09/11 06:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

good thing that bull didnt stomp ya


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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14423335 - 05/09/11 06:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have had a lot of experience with large doses of subs, and have encountered the effects you talk about quite a few times. last seasons, i was consuming shrooms a couple of times a weak, with no adverse effects, apart from building up a tolerance and not tripping as hard as i would have liked to and ended up have a few doses in the range of 20+ grams dry. this would usually result in various parts of the body going in and out of paralysis. loosing all feeling in my hands, not being able to talk, or even swallow properly. it would come and go in waves and seemed to be made worse by the cold. on one poarticular occasion i was our shrooming with friends, but i couldnt physically make my hands move to pick any shrooms.

As far as i am aware, it is purely a result of too high a dose, and not caused my some poisonous look alike that may have snuck in. There was a thread on here last season discussing this. these days, i pretty much limit myself to 4grams dry, and i dont take  shrooms any where near as often.

I wouldnt reccomend mushrooms for super high dosing experiments, the incresed dosage doesnt seem to increase the experience. and losing the ability to walk is pretty annoying.  if you really want to achieve what you would be hoping for with a super dose, its much better to combing small doses of hallucinogens you are used to. i have a soft spot for shrooms and bufotenine.

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: LSDilocybin]
    #14423352 - 05/09/11 06:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah i was surprisingly lucid...

although only times i havn't been lucid on chems was on 60mg vaped DMT

and 2.2 grams of DXM. I seem to have a hard head when it comes to psychs, i had really strong visuals, and knew where i was and what i was doing, or at least what i was trying to do... I tend to trip harder at night, so i was wondering if i had a similar dose should i expect similar body effects?

and yeah on my way up the mountain i was shit scared of being trampled by a bull, but on my way down they didn't seems phased by me stumbling past, and all i could care about was trying to get my way back, with legs that didnt work to well......

@ TripNinja;

Thanks for that, i was a bit worried i had consumed something wrong, and it felt alot like temporary paralysis but seemed to be mainly my feet, thighs thumbs and nose, i would lose all feeling in the every other minute...

Would dosing on less amounts with a lemon tek still have as strong a body load? because all lemon tek is meant to do is either speed up absorption, or convert Psilocybin to Psilocin so the body has less mechanics to go through digesting it?

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14423353 - 05/09/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well 14g is an heroic dose!! collapsing at that sort of dose is expected. i collapse at 4.5g and im only small. not having total body controll is usual. seeing the dead in clouds isnt something i have ever experienced, but its not a surprise. i mean 14g! you are lucky you didnt pass out/freak out or fall in the river or some such shit. i doubt you got thistle poisoning.
so in answer to your question, yes. they are pretty usual reactions for a high dose.

what does everyone else think?

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14423358 - 05/09/11 06:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've been thinking alot about body load at high doses lately, and I think it has a great deal to do with how healthy you are at the time of the experience and how much you've prepared yourself for it. Vitamins, smart drinks, juices, herbs, and a clear understanding of what your about to engage in is so very much important. Large doses are nothing to take lightly, It's a deeply profound religious life changing experience which takes many days of meditation and preparation to be done right. It's an art form in so many ways.


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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: shroomzi8]
    #14423369 - 05/09/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i had a bit of a freak out while i was laying down in the thistles, because once i stood up i noticed cows standing around me, which was really strange to be the first thing you see when you open your eyes, let alone while tripping,

and then when i went to start walking again I couldn't work out which way was which and was walking in circles for a bit, until i noticed the hill i sat on for a bit and then just walked/crawled in the opposite direction.

there was no chance of falling in the water because i was another 40 minute walk from there, i was just looking down on it from the top of the hills, its a really nice view.

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14423402 - 05/09/11 07:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

so you took alot of shrooms and tumbled about with nature for a bit? sounds good.:smirk:

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: shroomzi8]
    #14423422 - 05/09/11 07:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha well.. pretty much yeah, I cant stand shrooms and being indoors on doses higher that 3g i either end up becoming couch locked and speechless or out the door in the first 45 minutes to go walking about.

im the kind of person that's always walking around, cant stand sitting still.

and the river/national park i went to is sort of a favourite pace, it hods a lot of memories and have only ever had good times there so couldnt think of a better place to eat a shitload of mush and walk around,

although i think i might just stick to lower doses of shrooms from now on though, it was far to strange, i much rather enjoy a 7g trip then be crawling around worrying if i will be able to walk sometime soon.

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14423665 - 05/09/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I ate 11 grams once at a music festival..Pretty sure I had a seizure.

I did a little molly that Im pretty sure was cut with smack right as I was starting to trip. I just layed in the field for what seems like days listening to the music.
While I was laying on the ground my body was moving with the music(this was the seizure...I think)weirdly. And I would look up to the sky to see the stars forming brilliant patterns of hieroglyphs and strange "space ships".
Eventually I was convinced I was dead/dying and that the only reason I could still hear the music and people around me is because I was stuck in my body. So my friend shows up and he goes,"c'mon man get up lets go back to camp". I replied,"I cant get up dude. I'm gonna stand up and look down at my dead body". I literally was convinced he was a hallucination, like an angel coming to guide me out of my body.

So he eventually persuades me to stand up, and to my amazement I was still alive. I was SOAKED in sweat. Dehydrated to the max.

My theory is Major dehydration, combined with coming down off molly/smack while still tripping balls made me have a seizure..

So yes I have had major body loads like you have mentioned

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: heratogwea]
    #14423747 - 05/09/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

14 is a huge dose... no wonder you had such a body load


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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: SummerDaisies]
    #14426389 - 05/09/11 07:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Aren't these weak mushrooms? But, how did you know it was 14'gms? Missed that part....

Still... That is a LOT of dry mushrooms to eat and keep down
140 gm wet equiv....


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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: HarryL]
    #14426758 - 05/09/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Psilocybe Subaeruginosa are meant to be stronger than cubes and simiar to Cyans,

i know it was 14 grams because it was my last half an ounce, and I weighed it before i went walking,

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14426849 - 05/09/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Pan sub or psil sub.... Different mushrooms

Not sure your trip sounds like 14'gm cube trip... Sounds wack but... Really, being able to walk and remember.... Just saying...


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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: HarryL]
    #14426925 - 05/09/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I know, maybe it has something to do with the way i dried them  :shrug:

it wasn't as strong as what I expected, although I have never had an experience where I couldn't tell what was and wasn't real, except for on 2.2 grams of freebase DXM, and the only reason I couldn't tell was because I could barely keep my eyes open, and when they were I didn't have double vision but Quadruple vision it was like each of my eyes was seeing double.... and every time I closed my eyes I would enter some really strange place with infinite possibilities, but I still knew that what I was experiencing was a heightened sense of imagination,


and the mushrooms were Psilocybe Sub, not Pan Subs, I picked them myself

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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14427589 - 05/09/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I can't even fathom this dose. I had 3.8-4.2 once, and I LOST it.


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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: t23]
    #14427907 - 05/10/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've done 7 twice. Both times were insane. I'm probably gonna push a little harder though. Not quite 14, maybe 10.


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Re: 14g dry dose intense body load. [Re: Joolz]
    #14440566 - 05/12/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

14gm plus trips are not unheard of. I know a few people that have done them and I have done them as well. Its definitely not something to jump into head 1st. But when it goes good, it goes really good.

I did 14gms of dried cubes a few years back. I wrote a thread on it, its under my posts if u wanna see. It was fucking intense tho. It came on astonishingly fast and hit like a brick train. Ended up seeing a toilet turn into a massive hexagon. When it peaked I had a bad trip for about 15-20Min's approx which was the most horrific thing that has ever happened to me in my life. If you have ever had a bad trip on a eighth time that by 4, it scared the life out of me. After I peaked and came out of the bad trip it was all smooth sailing downhill in the most incredible comedown I have ever had. Every thing went black and had had streams of blue symbols running down over everything(like the matrix, except it was blue).

After that I didnt do shrooms or acid for close to a year but after starting on small doses I have brought my self back up to the 4-5gm mark again and might even try another 10+ dose again sometime in the near future and can hopefully tame my mind.

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