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What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals?
    #14421791 - 05/08/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'd like to hear from as many people as possible about this one.  There's a few drugs I really enjoy but even with those there's still things I'd change about the experience.  Don't get me wrong, I still LOVE doing them and the pro's farrr outweigh the cons but... What would you change about the experience of your favorite chemicals?


LSD:  It bums me out how I never want to eat when I'm tripping.  Almost everything seems so much better on acid, I really wish I could eat my favorite meal while I'm peaking and just savor every nuance of the taste.  Whenever I'm tripping though I usually end up getting that feeling of low-blood sugar by the end, if you can relate to that.  Very slightly dizzy, stomach just saying "Fucking feed me you tripped out dicknose".  If I could change acid, I would allow myself to experience a nice meal while in the midst of a trip and avoid that feeling of being malnourished when coming down much later.

MDMA:  Love MDMA, less than LSD but good lawd is it lovely.  :crazy2:  That said, I'll be damned if I don't wake up the next day after a night rolling at a club with a lifelong connection to/enjoyment of some piece of shit fucking song.  I've often taken it when I was going out to a club/bar for the night, and around here the DJ's often aren't the best.  But I still had such an epic time that the next day I'm singing some horseshit pop/club song that I always despised before that.  And the enjoyment does not seem to be diminished by time.  I remember wanting to drive straight into a tree when I caught myself with the radio full blast singing that Rude Boy song last year after having one of the best nights ever on some molly.  :lol:


There's got to be some things that bum you out about your favorite chemicals....  Share them here!


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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14421880 - 05/08/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

LSD: The stomach feeling. And sometimes I feel overly restless, especially at the beginning. I can't help but pace sometimes.

Shrooms: The stomach feeling again. I think it is usually worse with this one. The confusion at the beginning of the trip feels excessive sometimes. Runny nose can be annoying.

MDMA: Uncomfortable pressure feeling in my head at the beginning of a roll sometimes.

DMT: Not being aware of my breathing, but it is necessary for the depth of the experience.


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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: The_Aviator]
    #14421919 - 05/08/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

LSD: Hate how I can't control my body temperature on high doses, dislike how painful it was when it first hit me (7 hits)

Shrooms: Dislike nausea, runny nose, and the fact that my dick won't work when tripping

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: The_Aviator]
    #14421943 - 05/08/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

DXM: The fact that movement feels so fun, but I can't be too physically active because it upsets the stomach.

Alcohol: Same as DXM, except whether or not I get an upset stomach or vomit isn't dependent on how physically active I am.

Marijuana: Dehydration. I hate it when I smoke a few bowls, then drink a tall glass of ice water... Then have cotton mouth five minutes later. Gets annoying and gross after a while.

LSD: The body high has always been slightly unenjoyable to me for some reason. I often get this strange feeling that my body is having some kind of instinctual need (to eat, drink, piss, shit, ejaculate) but I can't tell which one it is. I just get a strange feeling of neediness from my body that I can't really get rid of.

MDMA: Sometimes I feel very sick while waiting for the effects. Once the kick in though, everything's fine.

Shrooms: Nothing, really. I've only shroomed once but it was a perfect experience.


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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Shrewmz]
    #14421968 - 05/08/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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LSD: Hate how I can't control my body temperature on high doses, dislike how painful it was when it first hit me (7 hits)




Painful??  In what way?


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- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14422000 - 05/08/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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LSD: Hate how I can't control my body temperature on high doses, dislike how painful it was when it first hit me (7 hits)




Painful??  In what way?




For me, felt like my insides would be squeezed out of my body because of immense pressure. Like... I felt just so much energy and at the same time was burning up, best way to say what I felt would be: Sunburn everywhere + too much energy?

It didn't bother me too much, but could do without

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Shrewmz]
    #14422060 - 05/08/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

As far as mescaline goes, It lasts way too long. I could dose at 11 am and not come down at least 12 hours later even at threshold doses. You need way too much free time available to consume cacti. But the effects on the body are pretty damn good seeing how the long the trip lasts.

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Elmyr]
    #14422256 - 05/08/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

LSD - I would love for awkward moments to never arise.. (Is this chemical or psychological?)

MDMA - No high heart rate, that bothers me sometimes.

Mushrooms - No nausea, although I find that is easily combatted.

DMT - I don't think I'd change anything..

DXM - No nausea.

Marijuana - Less sleepiness.  I don't like getting high and then becoming tired.

Alcohol - Nausea and more ability to control body movements at high doses.


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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Elmyr]
    #14422275 - 05/08/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

DMT: Being locked out gets frustrating for me. Even in the ideal mindset after meditating and having a special day alone with the spirits. Rue or LSD are the only things that guarantee myself a trip like the good old days.

LSD: My mind goes crazy sometimes, overwhelming at points. I really freaked myself out during my last trip. I wrote/drew some scary shit too. couldn't fathom the idea of calming down or yoga. It was no good, yet a lesson learned.

Marijuana: Dehydration.X2


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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14422295 - 05/08/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What do you mean by "awkward moments" exactly?


I'm surprised I didn't list nystagmus under MDMA.  I get heavy amounts of that sometimes and I really don't like it.  Sometimes it doesn't bother me but other times I think about it too much and it starts to freak me out a little bit, don't ask me why, I realize it pretty harmless.


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- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Elmyr]
    #14422299 - 05/08/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Most pyschs: I dislike the nausea coming on and off of the high.

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14422335 - 05/08/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

By awkward moments, I mean social anxieties / overanalysing social situations and trying to manage that shit.  Or getting confused when trying to socialise.

I'm quite happy tojust be left by myself and do my own thing, but people expect socialising, and I don't always feel like it, because I'm well aware some awkward social moment could happen where I say something incorrectly or whatever and worry that it's construed the wrong way. 

I know how to avoid it while tripping, but I wish it didn't happen in the first place!


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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: ZenXi6]
    #14422756 - 05/09/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

MJ : Cottonmouth, dry mouth

LSD : I get real strong leg cramps of LSD although my friends dont off same batches I think its just my legs not liking vasoconstrictors even though its meant to be a weak one at that.

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14422779 - 05/09/11 12:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The same thing I love them for. The insanity, the depth and infinitely incomprehensible quality to the experience. Sometimes I just want to have fun and see some cool shit, you know? But its never that easy. Guess I could get my hands on the right RCs.

I probably just need to take some advice from joe m

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14422811 - 05/09/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

shrooms: nausea, being uncomfortable around people, social anxiety, lasts a little to short on lower doses (higher ones are just perfect :smirk:)
acid: same as shrooms pretty much
weed: getting really dissociated when not expecting it, memory lapses
salvia: takes so long to come down
dmt: really scary... but I guess thats a good thing

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: PorcupinesRevenge]
    #14423318 - 05/09/11 06:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

LSD: I love pretty much everything about this chemical but sometimes over stimulation can get taxing on the body and if you don't feel it during you sure as hell well feel it the next day. Also sometimes I wish the duration was a little shorter cause its pretty much a all day thing when you dose high...cant have any important obligations.

Shrooms: Love em, love the duration and the effects but sometimes they show you things you don't want to see lol...for me I pray I will have a good shroom trip cause if things go bad they go real bad unlike LSD.

MDMA: Feels great but having all your serotonin depleted for the next few days sure does suck. Worth it IMO

Weed: I love everything about weed only thing that sucks is running out or paying too high of a price!

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: thodub]
    #14423714 - 05/09/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I fucking LOVE LSD, but the one thing about it that gets to me is the muscle tightness i can get throughout the experience.


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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: drr]
    #14423726 - 05/09/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The same thing I love them for. The insanity, the depth and infinitely incomprehensible quality to the experience. Sometimes I just want to have fun and see some cool shit, you know? But its never that easy.

I probably just need to take some advice from joe m



lol well played.

but seriously,

the only thing i dislike about lsd is that its difficult for me to sleep for a long time afterwards without benzo's. and that that some people SERIOUSLY misuse it.


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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: s0nny]
    #14425679 - 05/09/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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s0nny said:
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drr said:
The same thing I love them for. The insanity, the depth and infinitely incomprehensible quality to the experience. Sometimes I just want to have fun and see some cool shit, you know? But its never that easy.

I probably just need to take some advice from joe m



lol well played.

but seriously,

the only thing i dislike about lsd is that its difficult for me to sleep for a long time afterwards without benzo's. and that that some people SERIOUSLY misuse it.




No doubt.  I actually had a shortterm friend/acquaintance mention to me while he was tripping, something about 'We can control people's minds with this.'  And his ex-gf mentioned the she felt like he was trying to brainwash her while she was tripping a couple times.  I'd say that's misuse of the most serious kind.  I called him on it and he's like "Yo, yeah dude.  That's why I like you, you keep me in checkm"  What the fuck?  Kid was off his fucking rocker.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: What characteristics do you dislike about your favorite chemicals? [Re: Shpongle1]
    #14425839 - 05/09/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Not being able to sleep on LSD is a big one. There's just a point in every trip where I just want it to end, not because it stopped being enjoyable but because I'm so damn tired after tripping for hours and hours. I guess I could eat it earlier but I like night trips better.

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