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Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower
    #14421518 - 05/08/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey,
I'm new to this so i was wondering if what i'm doing is ok. I'm following the pf tek, but I live in an apartment with a roommate that cant know what im doing, so i've had to make a closet friendly version of the fruiting chamber. It has a wire mesh inlay to prevent the perlite from falling through the holes and two AC LED nightlights that angle upwards to reflect off the solid (no holes) lid. So far only 2 out of the 9 cakes are in the chamber because i staggered the growth of them by putting different amounts of spore solution in each jar to test how it would affect their colonization. Which, in hindsight, probably wasn't the best idea ( the jar with the most solution (1.5cc's) fully colonized a little over 2 weeks faster than the one with the least (0.5cc's). I've kept the two lights on for 12 hours on/off with heavy misting and venting 3 times a day. One of the two closet doors is open the whole day and night, so it does get relatively fresh air. I've heard that cutting corners can yield diminished or disastrous results, so does everything im doing sound alright? I really want to get a hygrometer but i'm having trouble finding one.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Vincent Valentine]
    #14421577 - 05/08/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like your cakes arent even colonized, and thats too much\too close lighting. id put a light strip on a timer about 4ft above it and run it for 8-12 hrs a day. Also, i wouldnt bother growing with only 2 cakes, might aswell do 20.

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Hjilk0]
    #14421620 - 05/08/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Looks like your cakes arent even colonized, and thats too much\too close lighting. id put a light strip on a timer about 4ft above it and run it for 8-12 hrs a day. Also, i wouldnt bother growing with only 2 cakes, might aswell do 20.




hes doing nine, actually lol

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Hjilk0]
    #14421714 - 05/08/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hjilk0 said:
Looks like your cakes arent even colonized, and thats too much\too close lighting. id put a light strip on a timer about 4ft above it and run it for 8-12 hrs a day. Also, i wouldnt bother growing with only 2 cakes, might aswell do 20.




not even colonized :facepalm: his cakes are rolled in verm like they should be!

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Hjilk0]
    #14421727 - 05/08/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Hjilk0 said:
Looks like your cakes arent even colonized, and thats too much\too close lighting. id put a light strip on a timer about 4ft above it and run it for 8-12 hrs a day. Also, i wouldnt bother growing with only 2 cakes, might aswell do 20.




huh ? thats a verm layer hes got on it not uncolonized material ... his lighting is fine i use a hell of a lot more than that and like to think i know what im doing ... 2 cakes or 2000 who cares ? maybe hes just trying to enjoy the hobby at a personal level ... stop talking out your ass ...

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Vincent Valentine]
    #14421835 - 05/08/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the input guys. Does everything else check out alright? and he did bring up a point though.. how many hours of lighting would you recommend with this setup?
By the way i have 10 more jars on the way that aren't ready yet, so they should fill it up quite nicely


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Vincent Valentine]
    #14421878 - 05/08/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

he actually brought up no good points lol ... 12/12 light schedule bro ...

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Vincent Valentine]
    #14423279 - 05/09/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lol aight


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Vincent Valentine]
    #14424630 - 05/09/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i would put some holes on the top and bottom of your lid.  it will help circulate fresh air better.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: diegotheslinger]
    #14424641 - 05/09/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

also if you got 4-5" of wet perlite in there your humidity should be fine.  I have a super cheapo hygrometer I got from the petstore.  (like $4.00).  It sucks but it gives me a ballpark of where I'm at tell I find a better adjustable one.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: diegotheslinger]
    #14424678 - 05/09/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Good overall setup op, you're off to a very good start! I also like the lighting setup!

Add the holes to the top of the tub, that will help you a lot!

Otherwise you're.doing very well for your first grow, and it looks like you've read a lot to make yourself ready. I'm giving ya 5 shrooms for that bro, keep up the good work!:jah:


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: diegotheslinger]
    #14424708 - 05/09/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the only thing i would keep an eye on is the temp with the lights inside the FC. i have not personally used LED'S and am not entirely sure how much heat they emit, but I do know that all lights emit some form of heat (no light is 100% efficient).

everything looks great up til now. I have had a similar situation where i needed to keep things quiet from people i was living with. Cheap little computer fans can work wonders for circulations since they are quiet. while they dont move a lot of air, with a small set up like that they can make it so you dont have to fan constantly.

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Daft Punk]
    #14424786 - 05/09/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Led lights work just fine inside of the fruiting chamber. I'm on my phone otherwise I'd post a like to a few led teks.  They indeed have been proven to be both efective as well energy saving


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14424900 - 05/09/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you could post some of those teks i would definitely be interested. I am currently in the process of starting my first bulk grow with monotubs and having everything inside the tub would be really cool.

i know it is possible to use LED's and they are very efficient, but i have some concern over temp due to the fact that fruits tend to be very sensitive to that in specific.

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Daft Punk]
    #14425188 - 05/09/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They don't generate heat like that, but if you do a search in the like at the top of the page and type led, you should find some good info


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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Vincent Valentine]
    #14425225 - 05/09/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Drill holes in the top and bottom to ensure proper SGFC performance, esp with no calibrated hygrometer.  You can find a good analog hygrometer (what you'll want) at a tobacco or cigar shop.  They're used in humidors.

And Jesus christ, get those lights out of your chamber, FIRE HAZARD IN HIGH HUMIDITY ENVIRONMENTS.
Or: Take a layer of heavy duty plastic wrap and cover your lights with it.  silicone seal the plastic to the sides of your FC.  You want no moisture on those lights.  If it melts the plastic wrap, you should most definitely get them out of your FC.  Heat in FC = less RH, more condensation.

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #14462868 - 05/16/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry for the late reply. I finally got a real nice wireless hygrometer/thermometer from Lowes for for 20 bucks, and i couldn't get the RH above 70 even with the perlite, so i built another one from parts i had lying around. It uses two computer fans and flap vents for ventilation instead of the holes. I also bought a digital timer from radio shack for $20 (highly recommend it, as it lets you set to exact minutes) and a cheap $5 timer from Lowes. The cheap one i use to turn the florescent light on/off every twelve hours and the digital one turns the fans on for 1 minute every hour (they definitely replenish all the air in that time). This successfully keeps the humidity in the upper 90's. The second fan really isn't necessary, but due to the AC adapter i'm using i had to add it to draw some of the amps so it wouldn't fry the first one.

First of all, is that enough air exchange?

and its been one week since birthing of the first 3 cakes (two more more left to birth), but they haven't shown any signs of pinning (shown below). is that normal? I waited for a week after full colonization and soaked them for 24 hours. (The vermiculite fell off a bit because of the way i originally sprayed them.)

Also, i couldn't seem to find a good resource on maintenance. I mist them twice a day with 5 sprays aimed above them. That sound about right?

I really appreciate all of your input, and sorry for the long response. im just trying to make sure i get this shit right the first time.


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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Vincent Valentine]
    #14463004 - 05/16/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

your not getting enough humidity because you need more perlite, 6-7 inches is what i usually go for.

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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: mushking]
    #14463039 - 05/16/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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your not getting enough humidity because you need more perlite, 6-7 inches is what i usually go for.



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Re: Fruiting Chamber Design: first time grower [Re: Vincent Valentine]
    #14463054 - 05/16/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Vincent Valentine said:
Hey,
I'm new to this so i was wondering if what i'm doing is ok. I'm following the pf tek, but I live in an apartment with a roommate that cant know what im doing, so i've had to make a closet friendly version of the fruiting chamber. It has a wire mesh inlay to prevent the perlite from falling through the holes and two AC LED nightlights that angle upwards to reflect off the solid (no holes) lid. So far only 2 out of the 9 cakes are in the chamber because i staggered the growth of them by putting different amounts of spore solution in each jar to test how it would affect their colonization. Which, in hindsight, probably wasn't the best idea ( the jar with the most solution (1.5cc's) fully colonized a little over 2 weeks faster than the one with the least (0.5cc's). I've kept the two lights on for 12 hours on/off with heavy misting and venting 3 times a day. One of the two closet doors is open the whole day and night, so it does get relatively fresh air. I've heard that cutting corners can yield diminished or disastrous results, so does everything im doing sound alright? I really want to get a hygrometer but i'm having trouble finding one.





did you allow for a full 1 week consolidation period after they were 100%


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