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OfflineNothingToDoubt
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First time shrooming, Have some questions
    #14421407 - 05/08/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey guys! I'm new here. Some of my friends and I are probably going to do shrooms within the next few weeks. I smoke pot occasionally, but shrooms are probably one of the only drugs I'd do other than pot and I really want to do them. A couple of my friends that I'll potentially do them with are experienced with them, a couple other friends aren't. I'll probably do half of an eighth the first time

One of the reasons I really want to do them is I'm a really spiritual guy and from what I've heard they give who a whole new perspective of the world. Also, it's much more reassuring that shrooms are natural and don't have as much physical effects as let's say LCD (though if this goes well, I might try LCD later on).

So are they really spiritually enlightening? Also, how strong are the hallucinations and how long does the high last? How does this compare with other drugs like LCD?

Also, I have OCD and bad anxiety sometimes. Other than that, I'm a pretty happy person most of the time. Is this a problem?

And my friends want to smoke weed while we're doing this. Do you recommend this? Any other tips for first timers would be much appreciated.
Thanks Guys.


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: NothingToDoubt]
    #14421438 - 05/08/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Are you on any medication for anxiety?  Some of them can reduce the effects of shrooms.  Specifically, SSRIs (Prozac, lexapro, etc).


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: NothingToDoubt]
    #14421898 - 05/08/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Of all classes of drugs, the effects of psychedelics like mushrooms are the most varied and difficult to predict.  However, the greatest influences on your experience will be:
- The dose
- The situation/setting
- You

I'll answer your queries in order.
In terms of physical effects, just because a drug is natural doesn't mean it can't produce unpleasant physical side effects.  In fact, you may find more people feeling these side effects on mushrooms than on LSD.  With mushrooms, this usually manifests itself in some individuals as nausea or stomach discomfort.  I'd venture to say the majority of people do not experience these things and tolerate them fine, but you should be aware of the possibility.

Are mushrooms spiritually enlightening?  They certainly have that potential, but there's no guaranteed ticket.  Personally I find them to have a kind of psychospiritual "cleansing"-type effect, like a brain rinse.  This lingers for days after the experience itself.  For me they really do have therapeutic value which I'll expand on in a second.

How strong are the hallucinations?  That depends mainly on the dose (let's say 2 grams is considered about an average or medium dose for most people,) though the hallucinations can be more intense if you throw something like pot into the mix -- and the hallucinations (or 'visual distortions' if you will) will be more interesting if you're looking at something trippy or you're in a trippy environment.  The major effects last about 2-4 hours, then you'll come down for maybe 1-3 hours after that; the main effects of LSD lasts longer--about 4-6 hours.

OCD and mushrooms are a funny thing.  There is some preliminary research and anecdotal evidence that, oddly enough, psilocybin can actually alleviate the symptoms of OCD.  However, that is not a guarantee.  Like I said, the effects of psychedelics are notoriously difficult to predict.  If you suffer from clinical anxiety, there's about as much a chance of you having the time of your life as there is of you having a panic attack -- though I like to believe that with a reasonable dose (half an eighth is a good starting dose), good friends, and a good environment, you're more likely to experience the former than the latter.

Pot synergizes with shrooms quite well, so I recommend it.  However, I don't recommend getting baked before the shrooms hit you.  You want to feel the effects of the mushrooms alone before you get really stoned.

(P.S. The question about whether or not you're on SSRI-type meds or any other psychiatric medication is important.)


Edited by Land_Crab (05/08/11 09:28 PM)


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: NothingToDoubt]
    #14421911 - 05/08/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You mean LSD?
shrooms last anywhere from 4-8hrs. Body feels nice n refreshed afterwards.
Visuals are more morphing, brighter colors, stuff along those lines at lower doses.


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: Divinity]
    #14422044 - 05/08/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What Land crab said!! :thumbup:


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: HarryL]
    #14422601 - 05/08/11 11:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

There's definitely the possibility that you might have to deal with some anxiety. For me shrooms produce a lot of anxiety and discomfort, but I just kinda deal with it and it's fine. I don't wanna freak you out, i just want to give you a heads up.

I think the most important thing you can do to ensure you have a good time is focus on SET AND SETTING. Make sure you do them in a safe place where you won't be running into strangers or authority figures. Don't do them in public, but rather at somebodies house. If your friends are really experienced they should be able to help you if you start to freak out a little bit.

I would actually recommend that you don't smoke pot with the shrooms your first time because for some people this can trigger panic attacks, or just make the trip really strong. Maybe smoke on the come down.

As for the spiritual thing. I started doing shrooms because I was really into spirituality and I heard you could talk to God. But honestly the first time you trip you'll be too fascinated by the wrinkles in your jeans or some other shit to think about anything spiritual. You'll probably just giggle the whole time. It kinda takes a few times to get over the surface level distortions of your perception and actually pay attention to the other stuff that's going on. Also if your friends don't have the same intentions that you do you might find it difficult to have a spiritual trip when everyone is just smoking blunts and playing Call of Duty or some shit.

But I will tell you that turning the lights off, or closing your eyes will increase the chances that you'll start talking to spirits or travel to other worlds etc. It can be a little crazy though.

And yeah, if you are on any medications you need to be super careful and make sure that they won't interact with the shrooms. MAOI's for example can be super dangerous when mixed with psychedelics.


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14422709 - 05/09/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

my damn "f" key aint working........ i havta hit it so hard to get a damn response......

haha you referencing to LCD being a drug reminded me o when my dad tried to buy a LSD TV from JB - Hi Fi

If you are going to be eating dried cubes I'd say go for the 3.5g.

Or lemon tek 1.5, it will hit you faster and will be almost barely noticeable at +7 hours

but from my exp with new people on shrooms I'd say it cant hurt to have to 3.5 as long as you are with friends you trust and feel safe in your environment, and as long as you trust that a will be good.

The worst thing that could happen is you eat the shrooms..... and 8 hours later you are sober, at least that's the way I like to look at it.


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: PoopyGonzales]
    #14422883 - 05/09/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

LCD is a killer man. One of these fall on your head?



You're done.


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: the locked shroom]
    #14422889 - 05/09/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:laugh2:


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Re: First time shrooming, Have some questions [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
    #14427740 - 05/10/11 12:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the answers guys! No, I am not on any medication. My friends seem to be pretty spiritual as well the one that's asking me to do it wants me to meditate with him and said he saw different dimensions and all kinds of other shit.


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