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OneU
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14424256 - 05/09/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OneU said: Crumble and flush is your best bet. I had this paranoia a bit back too. Started getting ready every time I felt it was coming but then I realized growing magical things that put the ego to rest really makes that same ego pretty upset :-)
Have a bucket of water next to your toilet, when you hear the special knock, run to the toilet, break the cake up as quick as you can, flush. Pour bucket water, flush, pour again if needed and flush.
Good vibes to you 
Thanks for the contributory thoughts amigo. Hmm.. Toilet seems like a good fall back, especially if its just one tub. However, it is not the 30 second solution I am looking for. For example, an 18 L tub with 5" sub depth would require multiple [toilet] flushes.
That's why you have the bucket. Hold down the flush and it will keep dumping. I have done similar things and it took less than 20 seconds.
If you really want a quick way, open your window and just throw the sub off of your property in an odd angle. Other than that you could pour alcohol in the tub and set it on fire which would be a very cruel way to dispose of the mycellium but it works.
Other logical options involve chemicals you can't come across freely without being red flagged such as liquid nitrogen and such. I would just chill and not put paranoid vibes into my living atmosphere. If you've told too many people, simply flatter them until you put it to rest then invite them over and show them where it USED to be. Wait a month or so and restart. Word gets around quick man.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: OneU]
#14424268 - 05/09/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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seriously dude, you can eat it.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Wizzy]
#14424377 - 05/09/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wizzy said: Set the house on fire ...if you're hardcore enough
only way bro. and a true cap't goes down with his ship!
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: broken]
#14424896 - 05/09/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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we need to not feed this fellah so much look at the energy hes asserting
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: broken]
#14426581 - 05/09/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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closed veil said:
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Wizzy said: Set the house on fire ...if you're hardcore enough
only way bro. and a true cap't goes down with his ship!
No you can def eat it. Idk how your gona say its not an option. Its the most logical.
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Daft Punk]
#14427711 - 05/10/11 12:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Daft Punk, clearly YOU DID NOT READ the quote I posted about LE growing shrooms in a lab.
Wait.. let me get this straight. You are telling me what the is getting off topic in my own thread... yet you did not even bother to read what you are myopically criticizing me about. Let alone post your own evidence of your own claim, later followed by a statement which involves you soliciting my admission of posting incorrect information... about information YOU make statements about yet conveniently omit the source of your own "knowledge" on the subject.
So..
Tards, how about contributing to this thread instead of detracting from it. If you want to talk about the original post, it is regarding destroying evidence so that LE cannot later use it as... that's right, evidence.
They need very conclusive evidence. Mold, fungal spores.. that shit floats around everywhere. Do you understand that they need to reproduce a clean sample that is completely one species, and then have it conclusively identified by an expert?
Don't even bother to comment unless you have requisite knowledge on the subject, which you can back up with a link to a source of information that is at least slightly relevant to your claim.
Otherwise what you say is literally baseless.
Tards? Are you capable of reading this far?
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Daft Punk said: This is getting way off topic. hyphilion, you are introducing completely irrelevant outside information into the argument. just suck it up and admit that it is pretty ridiculous to think they actually grow from samples they collect when they bust you. that is similar to assuming they would grow plants from seeds they found on plants you were growing to verify that it was weed. they know from testing the myc that it is the real deal.
now to return to the topic.. i agree that it would take a lot to attract enough attention for a "Raid" and if you do have that kind of attention you would need one big ass toilet to flush that shit. the best bet is just to take proactive, not reactive measures when it comes to not getting caught.
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source: http://www.mushroomjohn.org/newsdea1.htm JANUARY 2005
SUSPECTED PSILOCYBE MUSHROOM SPORES IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN ... "A growth cycle was initiated for all three samples in order to determine whether or not Psilocybe mushrooms could be produced. A standard underground procedure was used (obtained from an Internet site; details withheld in accordance with Microgram policy). Mycelium growth was observed after about 3 weeks; however, only two small mushrooms grew (which were harvested after 78 days). Analysis of methanolic extracts of the two mushrooms by GC/MS indicated no controlled substances, suggesting that the mushrooms were not Psilocybe mushrooms."
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: JonnyLongboard]
#14427787 - 05/10/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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JonnyLongboard said: Squat over the tub and take a big shit in it. When the police ask what it is just say its a litter box and you have a really big fuckin cat. Meow
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Carl Sagan]
#14428075 - 05/10/11 02:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you're worried about getting pinched, just don't sell them or tell anybody what you're doing. That eliminates most all of your problem. In the off chance that the fuzz does stop by, they'll need probable cause to get in. It helps if you don't smoke pot or leave incriminating things laying in the open.
I seriously doubt if a cop gave two flying fucks if I'm messing around with agar and a few trays, or even about my failed--to-materialize panaeolus project in the works. I'm sure that they have better things to do than hassle me.
The lesson: if you're super paranoid, don't grow 8 monotubs for personal use, don't tell anyone, don't sell them.
You really think a cop is going to flip his shit over some guy with a shotgun FC?
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14428326 - 05/10/11 05:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Instead of researching what the cops are going to do with the evidence AFTER they bust you and coming up with all sorts of ridiculous ways to get rid of it, you should do some research on how people get busted in the first place. 99.99% of the time warrants are obtained because someone who knew about the grow operation in question talked to the cops. Don't tell ANYONE what you're doing and you'll be fine. This seems to be hard for a lot of people, but the point can't be emphasized enough.
If you share mushrooms with friends, tell them you get them from an anonymous friend. Don't even hint that you grow your own to anyone. I have friends I've known all my life that have no clue I grow and I'll always keep it that way. Relationships can quickly change and best friends can become worst enemies. Your best friend could get busted for something serious and during a police interrogation decide that rolling on you would be a better option than a long prison sentence. I've seen it happen to people I know, we've seen it happen to people posting here and it will always be a fact of life.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: FooMan]
#14428338 - 05/10/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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sporesmores420 is right... eat them. a real man should be able to chow down 8-10 monos worth of myc and fruits in well under 30 seconds.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: FooMan]
#14428473 - 05/10/11 06:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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FooMan said: Instead of researching what the cops are going to do with the evidence AFTER they bust you and coming up with all sorts of ridiculous ways to get rid of it, you should do some research on how people get busted in the first place. 99.99% of the time warrants are obtained because someone who knew about the grow operation in question talked to the cops. Don't tell ANYONE what you're doing and you'll be fine. This seems to be hard for a lot of people, but the point can't be emphasized enough.
If you share mushrooms with friends, tell them you get them from an anonymous friend. Don't even hint that you grow your own to anyone. I have friends I've known all my life that have no clue I grow and I'll always keep it that way. Relationships can quickly change and best friends can become worst enemies. Your best friend could get busted for something serious and during a police interrogation decide that rolling on you would be a better option than a long prison sentence. I've seen it happen to people I know, we've seen it happen to people posting here and it will always be a fact of life.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Sillicybin]
#14428505 - 05/10/11 06:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The best way to destroy any living organic matter is by rapid oxidation to render it into it's base elements.
I think the first thing to do would be flush it down the toilet. Alternatively, I have a 15L container of 99% sulfuric acid in the garage, and a 25L container of 69% nitric acid.
Your best bet would be to give it a darn good mix in the conc sulfuric acid, or alternatively, if you have concentrated nitric acid using distillation and sulfuric acid(for whatever reason excluding that of synthesizing energetic materials), dump a suitable amount onto the mycelium. 90%+ nitric acid is one of the most nasty mineral acids around. It fumes toxic brown NOxides, and will take out your epidermis in about 6 seconds. conc H2SO4 does it in about 10-15.(this did happen to me.. sadly..) Alternatively, concentrated hydrogen peroxide 60%+.
Dont talk!! its the best advice here
Edited by Dunecat (05/10/11 06:58 AM)
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14428568 - 05/10/11 07:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hyphilion said: they need to reproduce a clean sample that is completely one species, and then have it conclusively identified by an expert?
No, this is not what is required to convict you, the bar is set much lower. When you get to civics class next year you'll see what I mean, it's a lot to go into right now.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Doc_T]
#14428904 - 05/10/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hyphilion.
i dont understand the reference you provided. there seem to be many articles and i didn't read through every single one (im sorry but i dont have the time). the only one that seems to have anything about DEA cultivating themselves is the first thing and that is from spores. we are talking about them taking myc samples and growing.
as far as being off topic i guess you can talk about whatever the fuck you want and a lot of topics to change from their original post, but i am simply saying the DEA growing from spores seems to come from nowhere. i am too lazy to put more effort into this..
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Dunecat]
#14428956 - 05/10/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dunecat said: The best way to destroy any living organic matter is by rapid oxidation to render it into it's base elements.
I think the first thing to do would be flush it down the toilet. Alternatively, I have a 15L container of 99% sulfuric acid in the garage, and a 25L container of 69% nitric acid.
Your best bet would be to give it a darn good mix in the conc sulfuric acid, or alternatively, if you have concentrated nitric acid using distillation and sulfuric acid(for whatever reason excluding that of synthesizing energetic materials), dump a suitable amount onto the mycelium. 90%+ nitric acid is one of the most nasty mineral acids around. It fumes toxic brown NOxides, and will take out your epidermis in about 6 seconds. conc H2SO4 does it in about 10-15.(this did happen to me.. sadly..) Alternatively, concentrated hydrogen peroxide 60%+.
Dont talk!! its the best advice here
lol! "shroms officer, what shrooms? o, that. that's just several gallons of concentrated sulfiric acid. i like to keep it around."
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Fungal growth]
#14429216 - 05/10/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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how much worse is it to actually have myc and/or fruits when you get busted, than a shitload of jars, syringes, prints, FCs, etc? seems like the difference in court case and resulting penalties would negligible.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#14429226 - 05/10/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Prosecutor's burden is to convince a jury you were growing mushrooms or attempting to do so. What actual evidence is required to make that happen is a matter of skill, not science.
Why hasn't this thread been moved or locked? It's way off topic in Mush Cult.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Doc_T]
#14429408 - 05/10/11 11:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, this is Safety & Security material - we talk about how to grow them here, not how to disassociate/dispose of them!
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Sillicybin]
#14429447 - 05/10/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Always remember... EVERYTHING in mycology is flushable... That my friend is the most logical. Like the gentleman stated above, keep a bucket or two of water next to your bowl, when you crumble it into the toilet and pore the bucket into the toilet its like a super flush lol. Plus your toilet is primed for a second flush and the second bucket will give u the third to get all the little particles down too. Ive yet to throw away spent substrates or grain... Goes to the toilet. Far away from me and my home... But if you have someone at your door with a warrant. They already have enough information. Light up a spliff and puff that puppy as fast as you can.
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Doc_T]
#14429987 - 05/10/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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Hyphilion said: they need to reproduce a clean sample that is completely one species, and then have it conclusively identified by an expert?
No, this is not what is required to convict you, the bar is set much lower. When you get to civics class next year you'll see what I mean, it's a lot to go into right now.
Your post is of zero substance and zero value.
Why? You fail to cite supporting evidence, or even a rational thought process that leads to your conclusion.
Thus, what you say is tantamount to saying absolutely nothing. It is useless because it is baseless.
Lol, I like how silly people with no concept of supported arguments like to talk about educaiton. Its funny And not funny "ha-ha", funny get this away from me and castrate it so it doesn't breed.
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