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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: NCC1701]
#14423652 - 05/09/11 08:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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NCC1701 said: grow in a fireplace 
Lucky for me I have a fire place. I have sat and made a plan for all disposal. I suggest if your worried about it you do the same. The thing is noone is allowed in my house or knows the things that go on inside, other then me and my wife. Just be smart about it and take extra precaution. And you will be ok.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: NCC1701]
#14423728 - 05/09/11 09:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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NCC1701 said: grow in a fireplace 
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: wire5]
#14423793 - 05/09/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you are pretty much fucked if they show up at your door no matter what. even if you had a magical chemical to destroy all the myc then all the other materials around would be enough for conspiracy. it isnt simply a matter of destroying myc to avoid being in a world of shit. just follow basic rules and you will be safe. don't ever tell anyone about what you do except for a seriously loyal gf or wife and a partner who helps you with the work. don't talk about it over the phone. use tor or some other program to hide your ip when you are on the shroomery or other sites. and just other common sense precautions.
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Concentrated 71% Nitric Acid Concentrated 98% Sulfuric Acid
also not to nitpick but concentrated acid is concentrated lol. there is no such thing as concentrated 71% or 98% acid or anything for that matter. that is like saying pure 98%. it doesnt make sense. not trying to be a dick or anything just thought you would want to know so you dont make that mi
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: wire5]
#14423800 - 05/09/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i'd like to have a 'hopper', a big sink/toilet hybrid they use in nursing homes to hose off soiled linens and clothes. i'd bet it would flush a couple 6 qt shoeboxes away at once. WHOOOSH!!!
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k00laid
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Fungal growth]
#14423811 - 05/09/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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it seems people are overlooking one thing.
if OP is getting a search warrant on his place to be "raided"
chances are he has a lot more substrate than can be disposed of in 30 seconds.
no matter the means used.
tldr; if your growing one tray you arent getting raided.
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: k00laid]
#14423903 - 05/09/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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These are all very good points. Myc certainly seems very resistant and resilient. Having a fireplace stocked with flammables sounds like the best idea... perhaps some 90% alcohol. Soak that bitch and light 'er up. "Oh, hello occifer. Yes, just enjoying a nice summer bonfire in the living room."
The Chameleon definitely keeps things on the DL-- nothing over the phone. Voice recognition technology these days is a bitch.
I believe the lizard only has one small tub, but likes to be prepared in the event of emergencies.
Btw, to the poster just above this post, what does "tldr" stand for? thx
Edited by Hyphilion (05/09/11 10:28 AM)
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14423916 - 05/09/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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TLDR -- Too late, don't run? haha
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emf
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14423931 - 05/09/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hyphilion said: They find the grow op and take samples so they can later grow them in a lab to prove conclusively that your pet chameleon was growing an illegal substance.
Yep, because that's how they do it.
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: emf]
#14423971 - 05/09/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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eat my fuck said:
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Hyphilion said: They find the grow op and take samples so they can later grow them in a lab to prove conclusively that your pet chameleon was growing an illegal substance.
Yep, because that's how they do it.

Are you sarcastically implying that they do not have to grow their own samples in lab? That is what I have read. Have you read differently? Please enlighten us
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14423986 - 05/09/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hyphilion said:
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eat my fuck said:
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Hyphilion said: They find the grow op and take samples so they can later grow them in a lab to prove conclusively that your pet chameleon was growing an illegal substance.
Yep, because that's how they do it.

Are you sarcastically implying that they do not have to grow their own samples in lab? That is what I have read. Have you read differently? Please enlighten us 
I am most certainly implying that. Goddamn, are you really fucking asking this? I have a better idea, link us to the article that states "mushrooms must be first grown in a controlled lab before the suspect can be charged"
Goddamn, some people's underage children.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: emf]
#14424014 - 05/09/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Crumble and flush is your best bet. I had this paranoia a bit back too. Started getting ready every time I felt it was coming but then I realized growing magical things that put the ego to rest really makes that same ego pretty upset :-)
Have a bucket of water next to your toilet, when you hear the special knock, run to the toilet, break the cake up as quick as you can, flush. Pour bucket water, flush, pour again if needed and flush.
Good vibes to you
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: emf]
#14424055 - 05/09/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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eat my fuck said:
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Hyphilion said:
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eat my fuck said:
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Hyphilion said: They find the grow op and take samples so they can later grow them in a lab to prove conclusively that your pet chameleon was growing an illegal substance.
Yep, because that's how they do it.

Are you sarcastically implying that they do not have to grow their own samples in lab? That is what I have read. Have you read differently? Please enlighten us 
I am most certainly implying that. Goddamn, are you really fucking asking this? I have a better idea, link us to the article that states "mushrooms must be first grown in a controlled lab before the suspect can be charged"
Goddamn, some people's underage children.
Yes, I am REALLY asking this.
Think about it my friend: LE comes in. They take the op and destroy it. What, you think they're gonna leave someone with a functioning op? No, they incinerate that mofo, but not before taking a sample.
Why? They need record that fruiting bodies were grown from the sample taken. Once they have produced a fruit in a very clean lab with no chance of contamination by some other species, they can point to several ways to ID the specimen-- spore print color, gill color/structure perhaps, the blue bruising.
Think about it  And no one is being immature in this thread but you my friend. If you don't want to have big boy conversations, please exit here.
I don't have the time right now to google around to find the article I am referring to, and expose myself to cyberverse. Rather, I am hoping that someone who is familiar with this procedure will verify my claim.
And think before you post my friend, you'll appear the wiser.
Edited by Hyphilion (05/09/11 11:14 AM)
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: OneU]
#14424077 - 05/09/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OneU said: Crumble and flush is your best bet. I had this paranoia a bit back too. Started getting ready every time I felt it was coming but then I realized growing magical things that put the ego to rest really makes that same ego pretty upset :-)
Have a bucket of water next to your toilet, when you hear the special knock, run to the toilet, break the cake up as quick as you can, flush. Pour bucket water, flush, pour again if needed and flush.
Good vibes to you 
Thanks for the contributory thoughts amigo. Hmm.. Toilet seems like a good fall back, especially if its just one tub. However, it is not the 30 second solution I am looking for. For example, an 18 L tub with 5" sub depth would require multiple [toilet] flushes.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14424092 - 05/09/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They have established protocols for testing these things. You are easily one of the dumbest people in the world if you think they are going to waste the time and money to grow the shit out when they can just test it. They don't need fruiting bodies at all. Mycelium is a live culture from the get go.
And of course they are not going to raid a grow op and then just leave it there. Who said that? Goddamn, are you 12?
Seriously, put this off until you graduate high school and move out.
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14424109 - 05/09/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, I take that back, I did a couple quick google searches and found something relevant, Mr. "eat my fuck" (this alias is certainly the hallmark of a mature, enlightened individual)
source: http://www.mushroomjohn.org/newsdea1.htm JANUARY 2005
SUSPECTED PSILOCYBE MUSHROOM SPORES IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN The DEA North Central Laboratory (Chicago, Illinois) recently received three glass vials containing a clear solution, suspected Psilocybe mushroom spores in water. The exhibits were originally contained in three syringes, and were purchased in Detroit, Michigan by agents from the DEA Detroit Division (details withheld in accordance with Microgram policy). The total net weight and volume of the samples was 35.9 grams (40.0 milliliters).
A growth cycle was initiated for all three samples in order to determine whether or not Psilocybe mushrooms could be produced. A standard underground procedure was used (obtained from an Internet site; details withheld in accordance with Microgram policy). Mycelium growth was observed after about 3 weeks; however, only two small mushrooms grew (which were harvested after 78 days). Analysis of methanolic extracts of the two mushrooms by GC/MS indicated no controlled substances, suggesting that the mushrooms were not Psilocybe mushrooms. It is unclear whether the sale was a scam, or if the solution was contaminated during the transfer from the syringes to the vials, or if there was some other unknown problem with the solution or cultivation procedures. This is the first time that a mushroom grow has been performed at the North Central Laboratory. "
NOW, here we have the DEA growing mushrooms in a lab to verify whether or not the spores sampled were indeed those of an illegal strain.
Okay, Eat My Fuck, its your turn.
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Hyphilion
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: emf]
#14424111 - 05/09/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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eat my fuck said: They have established protocols for testing these things. You are easily one of the dumbest people in the world if you think they are going to waste the time and money to grow the shit out when they can just test it. They don't need fruiting bodies at all. Mycelium is a live culture from the get go.
What established protocols are you referring to?
You're making a claim without a source, when you expressly requested that I state a source for my claim?
How about you do the same, my friend? Find a source to back up your claim.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: emf]
#14424122 - 05/09/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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they wont grow out a sample of ur grow. they just put it in a machine and see if theres any illegal alkaloids.
mycelium containing psilocin or psilocybin = conspiracy to manufacture/in the process of manufacturing.
tldr; OP you cant really flush a monotub so there is really nothing you can do between the time they say open up and the time they see your grow.
and tldr; means too long didn't read. they dont need to grow it out to see if its for sure.
that being said. they wont raid your apartment for 1 monotub.
they'll try and catch you sellin for sure though.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14424142 - 05/09/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, I am REALLY asking this.
Think about it my friend: LE comes in. They take the op and destroy it. What, you think they're gonna leave someone with a functioning op? No, they incinerate that mofo, but not before taking a sample.
Why? They need record that fruiting bodies were grown from the sample taken. Once they have produced a fruit in a very clean lab with no chance of contamination by some other species, they can point to several ways to ID the specimen-- spore print color, gill color/structure perhaps, the blue bruising.
Think about it  And no one is being immature in this thread but you my friend. If you don't want to have big boy conversations, please exit here.
I don't have the time right now to google around to find the article I am referring to, and expose myself to cyberverse. Rather, I am hoping that someone who is familiar with this procedure will verify my claim.
And think before you post my friend, you'll appear the wiser.
well, i doubt our local p.d. has those kind of resources, but i may be wrong. thats a LOT of money to spend to bust anything less than a full on pounds per month greenhouse setup. especially these days when they can barely afford to pay the cops they have. i might be wrong, i aint no exbert, but it does'nt sound plausible.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: Hyphilion]
#14424183 - 05/09/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hyphilion said:
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eat my fuck said: They have established protocols for testing these things. You are easily one of the dumbest people in the world if you think they are going to waste the time and money to grow the shit out when they can just test it. They don't need fruiting bodies at all. Mycelium is a live culture from the get go.
What established protocols are you referring to?
You're making a claim without a source, when you expressly requested that I state a source for my claim?
How about you do the same, my friend? Find a source to back up your claim.
Established protocols such as basic testing procedures. You don't need to cite a source to say that police departments across the country test drugs instead of growing them out first. Goddamn, you are dumb.
Secondly, I don't give a fuck about DEA purchasing spores, which do not contain anything active and are legal in Illinois, and then growing mushrooms with them. Completely irrelevant and another testament to your ineptitude.
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Re: Best way to destroy mycelium in a hurry-- Bleach, Alcohol, other? [Re: emf]
#14424212 - 05/09/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is getting way off topic. hyphilion, you are introducing completely irrelevant outside information into the argument. just suck it up and admit that it is pretty ridiculous to think they actually grow from samples they collect when they bust you. that is similar to assuming they would grow plants from seeds they found on plants you were growing to verify that it was weed. they know from testing the myc that it is the real deal.
now to return to the topic.. i agree that it would take a lot to attract enough attention for a "Raid" and if you do have that kind of attention you would need one big ass toilet to flush that shit. the best bet is just to take proactive, not reactive measures when it comes to not getting caught.
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