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learningtofly
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: unam sanctum]
#14419324 - 05/08/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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unam sanctum said: We impose sanctions left and right. Osama didn't suffer from those. I mean assuming he did care so much for all of Islam worldwide, with his obvious(or not) intelligence and oil shares, why would he have planned and funeded attacks that he knew would kill hundreds of thousands if not millions more of his brothers, rather then invest in strategies and ideas that would make a positive change worldwide and possible decrease western imperialism?
Sometimes only a taste of your own medicine will cure your ailment.
Well it didn't work very well.
When does warfare work as planned?
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: learningtofly]
#14419339 - 05/08/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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learningtofly said: Unlike what Kid_orgo says that we hate freedom, let him tell us why didn't we attack Sweden, for example.
-Osama Bin Laden
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learningtofly said: I'm just going by this misrepresentation of Sunnis
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Kid_Orgo said: The motivation behind Sunni extremism IS a hatred of our way of life
They don't hate your way of life, they hate boots on their holy land right?
They? Do you mean some people who are not the Saudi government or represent most Saudis? Because a lot of people in SA and Kuwait were damn glad we stopped Saddam and stayed there to make sure he stayed stopped.
OBL was no representative of anybody except himself and an assortment of psychotic nutcases. And Sweden? SWEDEN? Why didn't they attack Sweden? For one thing it is just barely more significant than Vanu Atu and for another thing the Muzzy nutlogs are taking it over anyway http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/938
The nutlogs have repeatedly stated a desire to impose a world wide caliphate. That includes the US. They have no chance but they keep trying through violence. They have a long view, much like the Chinese. Anyone who would attempt to impose such a hideous condition must be opposed with all necessary force. And then some.
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learningtofly said: Unlike what Kid_orgo says that we hate freedom, let him tell us why didn't we attack Sweden, for example.
WE? Is that why are you learningtofly?
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: sunset_mission]
#14419347 - 05/08/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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sunset_mission said: I heard Osama is/was a product of the CIA. Anybody verify this with facts or debunk this?
For a good look at the topic, I'd recommend The Looming Tower, by Laurence Wright. It pretty much explains how the whole thing happened, from Bin Laden's ideological influences to his funding sources.
To summarize, no. There's no documentation that we ever funded or trained Bin Laden directly, but we certainly created the opportunity for him and many other Sunni extremists to participate in the Afghan jihad by funneling money and military hardware (state of the art stinger missiles, for example) through the pakistani ISI, which had its own axe to grind (with regard to combating Iranian influence in the region).
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14419351 - 05/08/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Because a lot of people in SA and Kuwait were damn glad we stopped Saddam and stayed there to make sure he stayed stopped.
Just as many people didn't want America there. Do you know how many innocent Iraqis have been killed since America invaded? Do you think that more people would have died under Sadams regime?
This is a real Osama quote
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Unlike what Bush says that we hate freedom, let him tell us why didn't we attack Sweden, for example.
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#14419357 - 05/08/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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State of the art Stinger missiles? Even then they were nothing special. Read Charlie Wilson's War for an excellent recounting of how we helped them beat the Soviets.
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: learningtofly]
#14419365 - 05/08/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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learningtofly said: When does warfare work as planned?
With proper planning, resources, and a hint of deception.
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: unam sanctum]
#14419380 - 05/08/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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learningtofly said: When does warfare work as planned?
With proper planning, resources, and a hint of deception.
Name one case.
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: learningtofly]
#14419396 - 05/08/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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learningtofly said:
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learningtofly said: When does warfare work as planned?
With proper planning, resources, and a hint of deception.
Name one case.
This is America and in America you can't be different even if you live in a different country. It's not just about race it's about religion. Black people and white people learned to get along so they could shoot at brown people.
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: Maurer]
#14419433 - 05/08/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Think for yourself.... Question authority.
Religious and Political.
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: learningtofly]
#14419449 - 05/08/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Because a lot of people in SA and Kuwait were damn glad we stopped Saddam and stayed there to make sure he stayed stopped.
Just as many people didn't want America there. Do you know how many innocent Iraqis have been killed since America invaded? Do you think that more people would have died under Sadams regime?
I've spoken with a few Iraqis who all hate America for killing Saddam. I'd imagine that viewpoint is prevalent across Iraq and Afghanistan, and probably Libya.
But the real terrorists are the Reptilians.
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14419466 - 05/08/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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But the real terrorists are the Reptilians.
QFT
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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14419486 - 05/08/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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But the real terrorists are the Reptilians.
QFT

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Re: O(b/s)ama; Who's the real terrorist? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14419578 - 05/08/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Iraq wouldn't have been such a problem if the US, Britian and France weren't total retards after the Ottoman Empire was broken up. They formed those "nation states" with almost total disregard for the clashing ethnicities contained within the redrawn borders.
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