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OfflineJoxy
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Human life without drugs?
    #14418611 - 05/08/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think human life without drugs has never existed, and never will and never should.

Human mind is not stand alone ustility:

1. If you compare man and woman, woman have a menstruation, which is painful and or has emotional changes, that go away in few days.  This makes them far more equipped then man.

2. Meditation, yoga, , sports, gym, body works like SM, are all drug producing activities.

3. Mind alone just cant do it.

What do you think?

I started a thread to make a book of recipes for drugs that will heal us and the community in all sorts of social interactions: in PERFECT WORLD...


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Joxy]
    #14418626 - 05/08/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

your body is synthesizing some powerful shit as we speak.


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Joxy]
    #14418642 - 05/08/11 09:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've never put thought into point two, but it makes sense, we will never be without drugs in our lives.


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Edddie]
    #14418661 - 05/08/11 09:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Number 2 makes no sense, all of those use the power of the mind, no drugs involved. Seratonin and dopamine are neurotransmitters, not necessarily drugs


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: quomaya2]
    #14418688 - 05/08/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry to say quomaya2 you are wrong, check Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorphin


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Joxy]
    #14419838 - 05/08/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

does it say drug one time in that article?


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Joxy]
    #14419931 - 05/08/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Joxy said:
Sorry to say quomaya2 you are wrong, check Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorphin




Well then let me point you to this wiki page.

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Drugs are usually distinguished from endogenous biochemicals by being introduced from outside the organism.[




4th paragraph. Its debatable but I would think a drug is something that is introduced into the body. If something is already present in the body then it pretty much contradicts the meaning of a 'drug'.


Edited by Nova (05/08/11 02:52 PM)


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Nova]
    #14420007 - 05/08/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

guys would you please read the article and not argue.

You get high from running, weights and Sado Masochism, by increasing beta endorphins which are in family of morphine... Your body can produce:
Wiki:
β-endorphin has the highest affinity for the μ1 opioid receptor, slightly lower affinity for the μ2 and δ opioid receptors and low affinity for the κ1 opioid receptors. μ opioid receptors are the main receptor through which morphine acts.


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Joxy]
    #14420252 - 05/08/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you're missing the point bro

Quote:

Drugs are usually distinguished from endogenous biochemicals by being introduced from outside the organism.




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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: quomaya2]
    #14420289 - 05/08/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think using drugs is a personal choice :shrug:


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Beanhead]
    #14421567 - 05/08/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Your definition of drug is very narrow.

Plants/fungi came first before we(sentient complex organisms) ever did. Some plants/fungi have certain chemicals that when eaten and digested get released directly into the bloodstream and into our brains to produce psychoactive effect.

Life without drugs would predispose a lot of organisms to...not exist. As for us, we would find other ways to alter our brains. It's only natural to tinker with the biological order of our bodies.


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The path the ancients cleared has closed.
And the other path, everyone's path,
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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #14422511 - 05/08/11 11:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

your muscles produce glycogen, which is a kind of complex carbohydate.
potatoes contain complex carbohydrates similar to glycogen.
your muscles produce potato.
derp.


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #14423170 - 05/09/11 05:03 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

MoxyOx said:
Your definition of drug is very narrow.

Plants/fungi came first before we(sentient complex organisms) ever did. Some plants/fungi have certain chemicals that when eaten and digested get released directly into the bloodstream and into our brains to produce psychoactive effect.

Life without drugs would predispose a lot of organisms to...not exist. As for us, we would find other ways to alter our brains. It's only natural to tinker with the biological order of our bodies.




Congratulations you know what shrooms are.

Stop trying to be smug :lol:


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Beanhead]
    #14424269 - 05/09/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You're mind and body are run on insanely complex systems of chemical reactions which include the release of hormones, and chemicals like serotonin. All actual drugs do are elicit these responses externally and artificially.
Therefore, obviously human life has never existed without what you're referring to as 'drugs' but that's because life does not exist without chemicals.  Nor does anything else.
This alone is not a valid argument for the use of illicit or even legal drugs as they can both have deleterious effects on the mind and body.
That being said, sometimes 'drugs' or chemicals are intensely necessary, as in the case of diabetics or schizophrenics.
Also, that being said, smoke weed erryday


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: EthnoHorter]
    #14424295 - 05/09/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

EthnoHorter said:
You're mind and body are run on insanely complex systems of chemical reactions which include the release of hormones, and chemicals like serotonin.




Indeed. It's a wonder we don't just suddenly drop dead and turn into goo.

Quote:

Also, that being said, smoke weed erryday




This we can all agree with. :sun:


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14433232 - 05/11/11 02:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

People who need drugs to have a good time or go through life, need help.

Being addicted to drugs is not a criminal behavior, it's a medical condition, just like anorexia or bulimia or diabetes type 2. You need help and not the shit that big pharma offers to curb the symptoms...


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Re: Human life without drugs? [Re: Joxy]
    #14434400 - 05/11/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure this had been said already, but human life without drugs = death. Your brain is always on drugs. And what's interesting is that many psychedelics mimic natural neurotransmitters.


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