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taman
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Mycosilviculture
#14418378 - 05/08/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Does anyone have experience and/or knowledge about integrating outdoors mushroom cultivation with forestry, so-called mycosilviculture?
I m getting more and more interested in these kind of agroforestry systems. Especially after discovering these guys: http://www.robinpepinieres.com/fr/accueil.html Sadly enough only in French but they supply different species of Pines inoculated with L.deliciosa, L.sanguifluus or S. luteus and Oaks inoculated with T. melanosporum. Developed in combination with and certified by INRA, the French public agricultural research center.
For example, imagine combining Pinus Pinea (Pinenuts) inoculated with Lactarius Deliciosa (Saffron Milk Cap) or Suillus luteus (Yellow Bolete) with possibly Quercus sp. inoculated with Tuber Melanosporum (Périgord Truffle). Mycorrhizae speed up tree growth, producing valuable pinenuts while at the same time providing valuable mushroom species.
You have to figure out the different time path of the species though, pine nut production may peak when conditions are less optimal for L. Deliciosa or T. Melanosporum.
And of course don't forget the value of the wood and even possible options to surf the wave of carbon sequestration, habitat/biodiversity banking and payment for ecosystem services.
Properly implemented, seems like it could turn out to be a profitable business venture although initial capital, risk factors may be a huge constraint.
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Any thoughts?
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taman
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Re: Mycosilviculture [Re: taman]
#14418392 - 05/08/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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And even may be done in combination with different subsidy schemes such as the Rural Development Program or under the Least Favored Area of the Common Agricultural Policy when done in agricultural marginal productive lands. At least in the EU that is.
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Re: Mycosilviculture [Re: taman]
#14418467 - 05/08/11 07:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's a few in the US who have also started this business, but so far they've all lost tons of money. They just don't get enough truffels to pay for the trees, land, and associated planting costs.
Perhaps 50 years later, they'll get established so they can be enjoyed by future generations. RR
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taman
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The testimonials on the website are rather encouraging though (but what would you expect?). Production after 5-6 years and very high maintained inoculation rates. Furthermore, they do extensive soil testing and advise to only use land which wasn't forested for some years to reduce possible competition from other fungi.
In regard to that, I was also wondering whether planting Alliaria petiola would be a possible solution to a forested area as it produces allelo-chemicals inhibiting mycorrhizae which would probably inhibit other fungi from taking over. (big IF)
Furthemrore, my original idea included not only truffles but also other forest products such as highly valued pinenuts and L.delicisia (at least in EU). That would diversify your operation, lowering the risk.
The possible subsidies with regard to Rural Development or biodiversity would also help.
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Re: Mycosilviculture [Re: taman]
#14433596 - 05/11/11 06:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You might want to have a look at the products and instructions these guys provide. Also, considering you are on the same continent it might be easy for you to get some of what they are selling.
http://www.micofora.com/index.asp?idioma=ES&opc=1&Tit=
Here in Australia there are a number of different operations that are either growing truffles or growing inoculated trees. In fact, I think one is supplying the other.
Here in eastern Australia the restaurants pounce on the truffles grown in the west (5,000km) away. It's much closer than France :P So they're producing quite a few. No idea how many trees or what their strike rate is.
"Since we began cultivating black truffles in 1997, our truffle production has grown exponentially to 600 kilograms in 2008 and a predicted 900 kilograms by the end of the current season" - well they might not have updated their website in a while but they are definitely still producing.
And these tree farmers: http://www.perigord.com.au/ http://www.trufflesoftasmania.com.au/
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