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How can I increase my natural DMT levels?
#14417385 - 05/07/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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First, do our brains produce DMT while awake? If so, what are some things I can do to increase my DMT levels?
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Celestial Traveler said: what are some things I can do to increase my DMT levels?
I don't think we are at the point in time where we have an answer to that question. Some believe that the pineal gland, which supposedly produces DMT in the brain, is associated with the 6th or 7th chakra. I think its still in debate which one it is associated with actually, as it is sometimes confused with the pituitary gland. But anyways, many practicioners believe that it is possible to increase your DMT levels through deep meditation on the 6th or 7th chakra, and through very deep breathing. I read in a kundalini yoga book that if you can get down to 4 breaths per minute during meditation, you activate the pineal gland, and it starts secreting DMT during waking consciousness. Thus allowing for a mystical experience.
If it were possible to somehow increase our DMT levels naturally, I would imagine it would have a dramatically positive effect on one's consciousness, and mood, as scientists believe that DMT makes the brain more receptive to its own seretonin.
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Meditate on your Pineal Gland/Third Eye/Ajna Chakra.
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Celestial Traveler said: First, do our brains produce DMT while awake? If so, what are some things I can do to increase my DMT levels?
1/4 tsp GABA and Huperzine A before bed. Not too much Huperzine A or it'll keep you up. On the other hand, your dreams might keep you from experiencing a refreshing night's sleep.
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There are supplements and vitamins you can take, like Mark said. I've also heard that we've calcified our pineal glands by drinking fluoridated, so maybe you could experiment by detoxing and drinking water up in the mountains or something. But it's all hearsay to me...
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: auxiliary]
#14421833 - 05/08/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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auxiliary said: There are supplements and vitamins you can take, like Mark said. I've also heard that we've calcified our pineal glands by drinking fluoridated, so maybe you could experiment by detoxing and drinking water up in the mountains or something. But it's all hearsay to me...
The net says that taking 1/4 tsp of Sodium Borate (commonly, 20 Mule Team Borax), in a glass of water, daily, helps detoxify a 'calcified' pineal gland.
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Celestial Traveler said: First, do our brains produce DMT while awake? If so, what are some things I can do to increase my DMT levels?
Seeing as there is no proof that our brains produce DMT at all, it's hard to say. If you want to increase your DMT levels, I'd say you should uh...smoke some DMT.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14424428 - 05/09/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Forget about the pineal lung tissue is (supposedly) one of the most concentrated places of endogenous DMT, which points to pranayama/breath work
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Celestial Traveler said: If so, what are some things I can do to increase my DMT levels?

It's natural. And proven to help you grow more serotonin receptors over time which is a nice perk.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: Cups]
#14428134 - 05/10/11 02:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's that Cups?
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A cool, refreshing bottle of ayahuasca.
BTW- If you've ever read on Dark Room retreats they recommend diets high in the amino acid tryptophan to increase natural DMT production.
Not sure if it works or not. You can check more about it here- http://www.universal-tao.com/dark_room/index.html
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: Cups]
#14429326 - 05/10/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cups said: BTW- If you've ever read on Dark Room retreats they recommend diets high in the amino acid tryptophan to increase natural DMT production.
This. The biosynthesis of DMT requires L-tryptophan so if you want to optimize your endogenous production of it then I'd suggest taking supplements of this.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: deCypher]
#14430860 - 05/10/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can have a dmt that's exactly like the real thing in ur dreams if you want to. There's 2 ways to do it.
1. Become lucid in a dream summon some elf spice a pipe and smoke it.
2. Use the time before you go to sleep to convince urself ur going to do this in ur dreams. It worked for me when i got a tiger to appear in my dreams so why not for some dmt
Practical use i guess is kind of tricky but it goes to show you it's possible to have a dmt experience only trough urself.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: infectedstyle]
#14432273 - 05/10/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmmm, I never thought to ask to "Experience a DMT trip" while lucid. It would be interesting to see what I experience for I have never done DMT.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14454222 - 05/14/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Uhm, is someone able to find specific papers showing validated studies about finding acutal DMT in the human brain, because as far as I understood, it hasnt been confirmed.. In other parts of the human body, yes.. but not specifically in the brain.. aka- Theory..
I even heard Strassman recounted a lot of his ideas in his book the Spirit Molecule..
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: infectedstyle]
#14454282 - 05/15/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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2. Use the time before you go to sleep to convince urself ur going to do this in ur dreams. It worked for me when i got a tiger to appear in my dreams so why not for some dmt
This actually works too. Although I used the watch technique. You wear a watch all week and every 30 minutes throughout the day you look at the watch and tell yourself, even though it's lame, that you "are awake." After doing this behaviour for awhile I would be dreaming and all of a sudden look at my watch and realize I was sleeping, instant lucidity.
The hardest part is not waking up once you become lucid. People usually suggest trying to spin around in a circle once you become lucid to try and stay in your environment.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: Stranger]
#14454289 - 05/15/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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warm milk and take a nap..
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: orison]
#14454311 - 05/15/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Look up Shivabalayogi he has a good technique for meditation on the third eye. It makes dreams extremely vivid.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: zZZz]
#14455934 - 05/15/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol.. seriously.. Is there real evidence for DMT naturally occuring in the human Brain.
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#14455940 - 05/15/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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No. They'll ignore that though, don't bother.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14458568 - 05/15/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah there is.
No, I didnt ignore that,
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Celestial Traveler said: Yeah there is.
No, I didnt ignore that,
Can you back this with documentation?
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Wikipedia my friend. Trust me, it's there.
Besides I have read several other places as well. I didn't save a list of websites in anticipation of a debate, however. But I have indeed read or heard about it being in the brain from several other places, including the documentary "The Spirit Molecule."
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Omgosh.. whatever happened to real scientific investigation? >.>
Wikipedia actually points out specifically that no amounts of DMT have been found in the human Brain(as of a 2005 study), and that it is strictly speculation that any part of the brain actually even produces DMT.. (though has been found naturally occurring in rat brain)
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A biochemical mechanism for this was proposed by the medical researcher J. C. Callaway, who suggested in 1988 that DMT might be connected with visual dream phenomena: brain DMT levels would be periodically elevated to induce visual dreaming and possibly other natural states of mind.[97] However, these theories are unlikely as DMT has never been found in the human brain.
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Better get your 'facts' right ..
What you have heard is theory. There's really nothing to debate here, it's either been found or it hasnt- there is scientific studies showing 'proof', or there isnt.. It's important that we pay attention and understand what it is we are watching/reading, so we arent going around profesing falsified and unsubstantiated claims..
though, when sites like this claim it as fact http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/dmt.html it`s hard to know what`s real..
I`d like to see some real studies on this, and I`ll get on finding something here this week.. because it`s completely retarded to speculate about something that has not even been validated as True.. XD
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Very well, I was wrong. Seems like you're getting a kick out of proving that, with a subtle hint of insult in your reply :P. I'll have my forum condescension-free, if you please...
And like you said, there are numerous websites that all contradict each other with what they say...so who is to know which ones are right and which ones are wrong?
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Okay, so I was patronizing a bit, but when you say something like this-
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Wikipedia my friend. Trust me, it's there.
I can get more then frustrated.. You ask me to trust you, when I clearly asked for some substantial evidence.. It's things like this that not only can get you into trouble, but also the one's you ask into your sphere.. and in the name of Truth (let alone science) we owe it to ourselves to be as acute and accurate as possible.
I too fall short, by all means, in various circumstances, so I apologize for my own ignorance in this instance -edit: thanks for pointing it out(my brass), and also for admitting you were wrong
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DMT is naturally occurring in small amounts in rat brain, human cerebrospinal fluid, and other tissues of humans and other mammals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine#Endogenous_DMT
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Science is secondary, direct experience is first. You want facts I suggest you investigate on your own instead of going by the books, which is like believing a blind man that says he can see.
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Re: How can I increase my natural DMT levels? [Re: zZZz]
#14462950 - 05/16/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How is it like believing a blind man? The people that created "the books" had valid experiences just like you do.
Do you suggest we dump all prior experience just because it might not be completely accurate? Humanity would still be pounding rocks together if we didn't share knowledge.
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zZZz said: Science is secondary, direct experience is first. You want facts I suggest you investigate on your own instead of going by the books, which is like believing a blind man that says he can see.
Good point, but it's kinda hard to tell from direct experience whether or not I have minute amounts of DMt in my brain. Don't really have the tools or the organic chemistry knowledge to test that...
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FunkMasterShroom said: Okay, so I was patronizing a bit, but when you say something like this-
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Wikipedia my friend. Trust me, it's there.
I can get more then frustrated.. You ask me to trust you, when I clearly asked for some substantial evidence.. It's things like this that not only can get you into trouble, but also the one's you ask into your sphere.. and in the name of Truth (let alone science) we owe it to ourselves to be as acute and accurate as possible.
I too fall short, by all means, in various circumstances, so I apologize for my own ignorance in this instance -edit: thanks for pointing it out(my brass), and also for admitting you were wrong
No problem, and thanks for not being arrogant and boasting like you're the smartest man in the world for proving one point like many people do. I will admit I have not EXTENSIVELY researched DMT content in the human brain, and I have mostly just gone by word of mouth. But I'm willing to bet there are some sources out there that will confirm FOR CERTAIN that there are minute amounts of DMT in the brain. Like you said, who's to trust?
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zZZz said: Science is secondary, direct experience is first. You want facts I suggest you investigate on your own instead of going by the books, which is like believing a blind man that says he can see.
Yarr...
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