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FrenchFryed
brb in hyperspace


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DMT extraction gone wrong, advice welcomed/needed
#14416200 - 05/07/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey everyone, I wanted to share with you guys my DMT extraction I did a few days ago. Since I couldn't find a local store that stocks sodium hydroxide I had to use a different tek. And since the Nexus has been down for so long I had no other option than to go ahead and use this one, unfortunately things went from bad the worse once I realized that after the last step I was left with nothing more than rock hard washing/baking soda..
Just to sum everything up here's what happend:
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Some pictures: http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k502/FrenchFryed/Poor%20Mans%20Dimitri%20Tek/ 1:1 ratio mixed MHRB and sodium carbonate. Added vegetable oil and water and set at low heat for 1.5 hrs. Sucked up the oil from the mix and poured it in acidic water(water+vinegar mix) and stirred for a few minutes
Removed the oil from the acidic water and added it back to the MHRB bowl. Low heat again for an hour. I repeated these steps 3 times and every time used fresh acidic water.
I collected all the acidic water which now should be containing DMT. Then I added 1:3 ratio sodium carbonate to the acidic water to make it basified water..
Here's where the problems started. For one vinegar takes forever to evaporate so by the time it finally started evaporating the sodium carbonate started turning rock hard.
I decided to add 91% isopropyl alcohol to precipitate freeze some of the dried power which should be containing sodium carbonate and DMT crystals. After a day in the freezer no crystals where forming so I placed it next to a low powered fan to let everything evaporate.. But once the isop. evaporated I was left with white dust that looked nothing like the DMT crystals which I guess were the sodium carbonate that I added in the acidic mix.
I was also left with some yellow gunk which I though might be dirty DMT so I eyeballed a BB sized chunk and placed it in my pipe under some herbs. As I expected nothing happend.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k502/FrenchFryed/Poor%20Mans%20Dimitri%20Tek/IMG_0178.jpg
So my question is; What went wrong, where did it go wrong and can I re-use the powdered MHRB and try a different tek once I get my lye?
Thanks 
Poor mans DMT tek: Poor Mans DMT Tek by Spiceman PS: If I'm in the wrong sub forum, please move it to the right place.
-------------------- I used to do drugs. I still do. But I used to, too. >>> My DMT Journey: From Bark to Smoke <<<
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Aedan



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Re: DMT extraction gone wrong, advice welcomed/needed [Re: FrenchFryed]
#14416485 - 05/07/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm going to start off by saying this is not the best way to extract dmt without lye. I have mentioned this in another post but q21q21's tek is where it's at.
http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanicals/77544-q21q21s-tek-comprehensive-guide-extraction-dmt.html
Read the second post (the fluffy white funfest)
Anyway what you extracted looks like dmt to me. You may have to test a bit more because a bb sized dose wont do much. After you basified the vinegar solution and evaporated it, the resulting powder is a mix of the sodium carbonate and dmt. When you add the alcohol, the sodium carbonate stays undissolved. Separating and evaporating the solution should yield dmt.
Oh yeah and you cant freeze precipitate with alcohol. That only works with naphtha. 
Edit: And you should be able to tell if it's dmt by simply smelling it. Dmt has a very distinct plastic yet flowery funky smell to it.
Edited by Aedan (05/07/11 08:06 PM)
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FrenchFryed
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Re: DMT extraction gone wrong, advice welcomed/needed [Re: Aedan]
#14417077 - 05/07/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah I knew before hand it isn't the best way to extract the spice but since the nexus was down I didn't know any other legitimate sites that had lye-free extractions.
The thing is, the last picture in my post is pre-alcohol evaporation. But after the evaporation there were no crystal formation, not even white specks that might be tiny traces of DMT. All that was left was a tiny layer of oil which I assume i accidentally sucked up during one of the steps.
it doesn't have a smell either so that's leading me to believe that the vegetable oil I used didn't even extract the DMT from the powered root bark.
Thanks for the link, do you think it's worth a shot and try to re-extract the spice using tek #2?
-------------------- I used to do drugs. I still do. But I used to, too. >>> My DMT Journey: From Bark to Smoke <<<
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Aedan



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Re: DMT extraction gone wrong, advice welcomed/needed [Re: FrenchFryed]
#14417342 - 05/07/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's hard to say what would be the most efficient way to solve this problem. You could try to remove all of the oil and do a solvent extraction, with naphtha or xylene toluene etc. The problem is those solvents dissolve oils so any remaining vegetable oil could end up in it. I would try mixing hydrated lime to get the batch to a thick pasty consistency, then do a solvent extraction (like in the tek in the link I sent you). Then freeze precipitate if using naphtha.
You will have to experiment for sure. If I was in this situation I would scrap it and start over. But I usually order atleast a kilo of mhrb so I have a lot of room for trial and error
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FrenchFryed
brb in hyperspace


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Re: DMT extraction gone wrong, advice welcomed/needed [Re: Aedan]
#14417394 - 05/07/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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dang too bad I only ordered 1/4 pound. I'm going to experiment to see if I can find ways to remove any remaining oil and try the tek you gave me 
If not than meh, at least I know now how not to extract DMT lol
Thanks for the help!
-------------------- I used to do drugs. I still do. But I used to, too. >>> My DMT Journey: From Bark to Smoke <<<
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Aedan



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Re: DMT extraction gone wrong, advice welcomed/needed [Re: FrenchFryed]
#14417476 - 05/08/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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No problem. Good luck with your future ventures. Dmt is an amazing substance 
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heratogwea



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Re: DMT extraction gone wrong, advice welcomed/needed [Re: Aedan]
#14418900 - 05/08/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I say smoke the powder....thats just me
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