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evenbreak
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do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping?
#14415911 - 05/07/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i want to experience awesome shit like out of body experiences and total ego death and seeing higher beings.
I have never experienced any of those things on shrooms/acid and psychedelic RCs. I would rather not take DMT or salvia. But I'm always so envious when I read reports of other people experiencing those things..
what is the secret? do I just need to trip more?
-------------------- It has been reported that some victims of torture, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not wake up. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren’t being tortured. The only way that they realized they needed to wake up was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to wake up. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and please wake up.
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Luman
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: evenbreak]
#14415928 - 05/07/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The secret is dose high as fuck
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evenbreak
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: Luman]
#14415960 - 05/07/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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is that really it?
ive done 45mg of 2c-e and it was intense.
should i bump it up to 80mg or something? at what point does it begin to get confusing/painful bodyload rather than helpful?
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Austrip
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: evenbreak]
#14416011 - 05/07/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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2C chems are not a good family to up the dosage to epic levels.
Epic doses of shrooms and LSD will surely get you there, but alot of the time its a personal thing. Some people are deeply spiritual people, sometimes even though they don't realize it. others are logical thinkers and view the world scientifically and factually, and some people are just retarded and watch the pretty colors and talk about how fairies butt f**ked their friend till he thought he was an orange.
My advice, start reading up on philosophy and spiritual practices, alot of the belief systems of eastern religion and philosophy seems to work well for people. But not only that try to improve your mind and learn to question more in general, learn about string theory and quantum theory, the size and physical laws of the universe, the way the world works and start asking the questions that seem impossible.
To go deeper you have to think deeper, which unfortunately not everyone does or can do.
To answer the question in the title, yes the trips do seem to get somewhat deeper and more profound for a good deal of time from your teenage years onwards usually, until you hit a point where you've almost seen it all after tripping for a decade or two, and then only on rare or at least less common occasions do you get those profound moments where something shocks the shit out of you.
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: Austrip]
#14416106 - 05/07/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, on and on...
Edited by Comcouveflor (05/08/11 08:16 AM)
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evenbreak
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: Comcouveflor]
#14416179 - 05/07/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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maybe that's the thing.. my worldview relies wholly on logic and reason. I also dealt with some friends who are very conservatively religious and it pisses me off sometimes how anyone could see the world so irrationally.
every time i read up about spirits or anything relating to "spirituality" that just seems like more religious bullshit to me.
i guess because of how much i hate that kind of stuff and how much i value looking at the world through reason and logic, it's gonna be pretty tough for me to experience anything awesome while tripping?
-------------------- It has been reported that some victims of torture, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not wake up. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren’t being tortured. The only way that they realized they needed to wake up was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to wake up. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and please wake up.
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Austrip
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: evenbreak]
#14416190 - 05/07/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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tradition religion won't help you, and those people are really hard to have a logical discussion with sober or tripping on the universe and their views, since they box themselves so tightly into one corner.
But much of eastern religion like Tibetan Buddhism taught me about things like the term Bardo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardo
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Used loosely, the term "bardo" refers to the state of existence intermediate between two lives on earth. According to Tibetan tradition, after death and before one's next birth, when one's consciousness is not connected with a physical body, one experiences a variety of phenomena. These usually follow a particular sequence of degeneration from, just after death, the clearest experiences of reality of which one is spiritually capable to, and up to terrifying hallucinations arising from the impulses of one's previous unskillful actions. For the prepared and appropriately trained individuals the bardo offers a state of great opportunity for liberation, since transcendental insight may arise with the direct experience of reality, while for others it can become a place of danger as the karmically created hallucinations can impel one into a less than desirable rebirth.
Alot of people find that these sort of views mesh well with there psychedelic views, a little too well sometimes and they are led into another one way path occasionally.
I find like I say, the best way to get more spiritual and deep trips is to examine the universe and learn as much as you can about everything from eastern philosophy to advanced quantum physics (even if you just read the basics lol). The idea is that you are allowing your to at least KNOW about these things so you are open to interpret your idea of them more closely should they pop up in any of your psychedelic trips.
As a teenager I seen lots of crazy shit, but its not till I learned about alot of the terms and ideas that other people have had before me on the same psychedelic substances that I could say "thats it! thats what it is" and you begin to understand and learn and the process continues.
Logical thinking isn't a downfall just open your mind to the possibility that there is going to be things outside of your understanding and its not such a far leap between making science and philosophy both an equal balance in your reasoning behind the universe as you perceive it.
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: evenbreak]
#14416194 - 05/07/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You don't know as much as you think you know. Let go and let the substances do their thing. You can evaluate it logically later if you wish.
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Comradez
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: evenbreak]
#14416197 - 05/07/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You need not believe in the supernatural in order to experience something awesome. If you take a high dose of LSD or shrooms, our scientific knowledge will seem both simultaneously exquisitely profound and childishly primitive compared to the hyperspace technology that the self-transforming machine elves will be showing you. (Not that your trip will necessarily take the form of this metaphor. This is just a well-known example).
One of my favorite tripping movies is actually the movie "Contact." This scene always gives me goosebumps....
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Austrip
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Re: do you trips get deeper as you do more tripping? [Re: Comradez]
#14416202 - 05/07/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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One of my favorite tripping movies is actually the movie "Contact." This scene always gives me goosebumps....
+1 on that, if this scene isn't one big DMT pipe I dont know what is
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