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Official Ron Paul thread (?) 2
#14415551 - 05/07/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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anyone think this is a good idea? I keep on finding awesome RP videos but I dont want to flood the forum. And the RP traffic is just going to increase as times go on..
vote here : http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-debates/index.html http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fon-air%2Ffox-news-debates%2Findex.html&h=23d91
fox has released like 5 different polls, they keep releasing new ones so they can choose the one which Caine wins.
anyways found this awesome RP video, speaking the truth to Ben Bernanki of the FED.
edit: this one too! damn.. the man
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14416720 - 05/07/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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He has never voted to raise taxes. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget. He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership. He has never voted to raise congressional pay. He has never taken a government-paid junket. He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act. He voted against regulating the Internet. He voted against the Iraq war.
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program. He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14416851 - 05/07/11 10:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Four posts in a row.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14416867 - 05/07/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I like what Ron Paul says a lot.
The only thing that still worries me in the back of my mind is his Freemason connections and the real possibility that he's controlled opposition.
It would be a real shame, but it would not surprise me.
My intuition keeps coming back to tell me to keep a heads up on that one, and it keeps making want to believe that he is (controlled opposition.)
Like i say i would be real sad, but i can't deny it.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14416875 - 05/07/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ron Paul tends to misspeak a lot if you listen to him carefully. I hear lots of errors during the first GOP debate earlier this week. Accorind to Rasmussen if Ron Paul won the republican nomination then the results would be Barack Obama 42% Ron Paul 41%.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Shins]
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Shins said: I like what Ron Paul says a lot.
The only thing that still worries me in the back of my mind is his Freemason connections and the real possibility that he's controlled opposition.
It would be a real shame, but it would not surprise me.
My intuition keeps coming back to tell me to keep a heads up on that one, and it keeps making want to believe that he is (controlled opposition.)
Like i say i would be real sad, but i can't deny it.
Its clear to me that hes a leader not a follower. You can tell by his body language.
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We dont need the same thing, we need to cut the fed. We need to give the power back to the 50 states to work as 50 different testing grounds for new policies.. we need to stableize the currency.
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learningtofly said: Ron Paul tends to misspeak a lot if you listen to him carefully.
That's 'cuz he's an old fart.
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learningtofly said: Its clear to me that hes a leader not a follower. You can tell by his body language.
His high-pitched voice is kinda wimpy, though.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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realfuzzhead said: We dont need the same thing, we need to cut the fed. We need to give the power back to the 50 states to work as 50 different testing grounds for new policies.. we need to stableize the currency.
I think we need to derail trains
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Shins]
#14416952 - 05/07/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shins said: I like what Ron Paul says a lot.
The only thing that still worries me in the back of my mind is his Freemason connections and the real possibility that he's controlled opposition.
It would be a real shame, but it would not surprise me.
My intuition keeps coming back to tell me to keep a heads up on that one, and it keeps making want to believe that he is (controlled opposition.)
Like i say i would be real sad, but i can't deny it.
Yeah I mean I have a hard time investing any trust within the ranks of congress or governemnt, whichever.
But he is saying things and seems to believe in what is truly right and important for real actual progress in this country and world. We will see.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said: But he is saying things and seems to believe in what is truly right and important for real actual progress in this country and world. We will see.
That's what Obama seemed like, and just look at him now...
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14416980 - 05/07/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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have a hard time trusting him? he is the only one who gets all his money from true supporters across the board, not just rich people and corporations. Are you suggesting that he hasnt voted to increase government spending and has wanted to destroy the fed and stop policing the world for 30 years just to try and fuck us over if he is elected?
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Poid]
#14416999 - 05/07/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said:
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DeadHearts said: But he is saying things and seems to believe in what is truly right and important for real actual progress in this country and world. We will see.
That's what Obama seemed like, and just look at him now... 
No he didnt seem like that at all.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14417010 - 05/07/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I said I have a hard time trusting people in government in general for obvious reasons.
But I do trust Ron Paul. He I think, Is truly legit.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14417034 - 05/07/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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He did to the majority of voting Americans (obviously)
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Poid]
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I really think that ron paul may be americas last true hope...
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Poid]
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Poid said: He did to the majority of voting Americans (obviously)
Yeah but Ron Paul is different for (obvious) reasons.
Not running around like a G preaching CHANGE. Literally all the fuckin guy talked about was CHANGE and everyone bought it.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Poid said:
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DeadHearts said: But he is saying things and seems to believe in what is truly right and important for real actual progress in this country and world. We will see.
That's what Obama seemed like, and just look at him now... 
No he didnt seem like that at all.
Yall niggas need to learn to E-prime.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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the fuck you sayin about bro?
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14417138 - 05/07/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I ain't no nigga, foo!
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said: the fuck you sayin about bro?
, you're all offended and shit.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14417198 - 05/07/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mayng get up chout of derr with all that jive ass shit homeboy.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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That link made me think.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14417245 - 05/07/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime
Freedom of expression, nigga.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14417277 - 05/07/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think if there is hope it stems from RP. However even if he is the gangsta mafucka he comes across as, then someone's gonna straight shank his ass anyways. But really at the same time I've completely given up on the political situation in America to be honest. Free men govern themselves, and the community has been taking care of itself for millennia.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: unam sanctum]
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Smoke&Toke is nothing more than a fictional online personality for entertainment purposes only, and all dialogue typed should be considered fictional.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14417326 - 05/07/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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realfuzzhead said: We dont need the same thing, we need to cut the fed. We need to give the power back to the 50 states to work as 50 different testing grounds for new policies.. we need to stableize the currency.
YES
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can you guys tell me what you think of this video? i think his concepts are pretty simple..
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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can you guys tell me what you think of this video? i think his concepts are pretty simple..
+ respect for Ron paul. Ron paul is true IMO. Bernanke is a NWO piece of shit.The Crisis comes from deregulation and neo-liberalism.
But can one man change anything ?
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No. But he has a massive following and he is collecting money super early this time.
Watch out.. logic may prevail. We need less federal government, more local government. More direct democracy. Do any of us have any say over anything at the federal level? no.. but if he started to leave things up to the states and local levels we would have thousands of testing grounds for new laws. It would be democracy in action.. not this charade we have now
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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realfuzzhead said: No. But he has a massive following and he is collecting money super early this time.
Watch out.. logic may prevail. We need less federal government, more local government. More direct democracy. Do any of us have any say over anything at the federal level? no.. but if he started to leave things up to the states and local levels we would have thousands of testing grounds for new laws. It would be democracy in action.. not this charade we have now
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14462458 - 05/16/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I really love , he is very cool and humble, and I think that if he gets elected it would be a true blessing for the world. 
His policy on individual freedom, such as the right to use drugs, is what is most appealing to me about him.
I think that all drugs should be legal, and if psychedelic drugs, including cannabis, get legalized it would be the most amazing thing and would change the world in awesome ways.
So obviously I am going to vote for him, but there are two things that I don't like about him.
One of them is his views on abortion and the other has to do with health care, welfare, and that sort of stuff. But I believe he said it would still be the states decisions, right?
Either way I want to campaign for him, but I don't like the idea of me going all over someone who has some more far right views on abortion and far right views on healthcare, welfare, ect..
But I definitely am going to go for because if we finally get the government approval to use psychedelics/cannabis after 45 longs years of repressions it would be the best thing ever!

 WHAT DO I DO?!?!?! I LOOOOOVE RON PAUL AND WANT HIM TO WIN FOR REASONS OF INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM AND BECAUSE HE IS AWESOME! but I don't like a lot of his other views
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: 28064212]
#14462523 - 05/16/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://minx.cc/?post=316074
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Ron Paul doesn't sound brave, or wise, or noble, or smart to me.
Ron Paul, frankly, sounds like a drunken idiot at a bar, possibly with a history of prior mental instabilities, spouting off perfect stupidity with perfect confidence.
He can't be president. It would be a nightmare. It would be government by lunatic. He'd be briefed on actual facts and then simply say "Those aren't the facts. Report to me new facts consistent with my rigid ideology."
Ugh. Why this clown gets respect in the GOP, I don't know.
If it's the gold standard thing, less disreputable voices are calling for that. Steve Forbes not only endorses it, but predicts we'll be on it in 5 years.
But enough from Ron Paul. I get enough of the slightly-deranged codger act every Thanksgiving. I don't need Crazy Pop-Pop on my TV every three days.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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realfuzzhead said: He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
none oof them have voted for an unbalanced budget, most have never voted to balance the budget and most also vote to spend like bitches on a shopping spree
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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Ron Paul doesn't sound brave, or wise, or noble, or smart to me.
Ron Paul, frankly, sounds like a drunken idiot at a bar, possibly with a history of prior mental instabilities, spouting off perfect stupidity with perfect confidence.
He can't be president. It would be a nightmare. It would be government by lunatic. He'd be briefed on actual facts and then simply say "Those aren't the facts. Report to me new facts consistent with my rigid ideology."
Ugh. Why this clown gets respect in the GOP, I don't know.
If it's the gold standard thing, less disreputable voices are calling for that. Steve Forbes not only endorses it, but predicts we'll be on it in 5 years.
But enough from Ron Paul. I get enough of the slightly-deranged codger act every Thanksgiving. I don't need Crazy Pop-Pop on my TV every three days.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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Ron Paul has never been ignored but he certainly deserves all the ridicule that has been heaped on him for years. He is an ignorant buffoon, as I have been saying for years. And I most certainly will fight against him in any way I can.
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I once liked a lot of things about Ron Paul; I used to like him a lot. I agreed with him about many things, from his views on drug prohibition to his generally non-interventionist outlook and, most of all, his willingness to be different and even to occasionally disappoint his own followers, a rare quality in a prominent politician.
But I also disagree with him about other things. Paul thinks there is really no role for government in public life. He’s talked about abolishing half the departments in the federal government, including the Department of Education, the HHS, the Department of Energy, Homeland Security, the IRS… I mean, not that I enjoy paying taxes, but these are radical positions in my mind. But the biggest problem I have with Paul didn’t strike me until after I spent time following his son’s Senate campaign.
Rand Paul’s run to me was a pretty crude exercise in racial signaling. When I followed the elder Ron Paul’s campaign in 2008, a lot of the people I met were intellectuals who had a genuine philosophical problem with government spending and the Fed, and who were really consistent about their limited-government beliefs – no welfare, but also no drug laws and no foreign interventionist wars. (You frequently found Ron Paul supporters who were more passionate about ending the drug war than they were about ending food stamps or whatever). I got along with almost all of these people, who were all unfailingly polite and respectful toward me. And I had a lot of respect for their views, even though I didn’t agree with everything they believed.
When I followed Rand Paul, though, suddenly I’m meeting hyper-aggressive Tea Party types who were in my face about being a communist before I even opened my mouth, and one interview after another devolved into harangues about how socialist “redistributionists” were stealing money from decent people to give to the lazy and undeserving. I asked probably a dozen Rand Paul supporters about Rand’s infamous Rachel Maddow interview and his views on the Civil Rights Act, and I didn’t hear even one who admitted the government had the right to tell, say, a storeowner that he can’t serve minorities. Inevitably, in these discussions, Rand Paul supporters would approach policies like the Civil Rights act as though they were purely intellectual controversies to be debated in a vacuum; I repeatedly had to point out that the Civil Rights Act was an extraordinary intervention that was necessary to reverse a long campaign of terrorism, apartheid and genocide by unrepentant whites in the South.
It struck me afterward that the Ron Paul strict-constitutionalist rhetoric is a very convenient mask for the Nixonian “Southern Strategy” racial-resentment politics. You rail against all government intervention, but the real anger is toward affirmative action, welfare, health care, and so on. Before George W. Bush imploded, that sort of thinly-veiled race-baiting politics was mostly the province of guys like Karl Rove and Lee Atwater and Roger Ailes. Once Bush and that brand of Republicanism lost popularity, though, the Southern-white-resentment movement needed to reinvent itself, and one of the ways it did that, I think, was to appropriate the more intellectual-sounding theories and rhetoric of Ron Paul. Instead of bluntly anti-immigrant, anti-minority manipulations like the famous Jesse Helms “white hands” commercial, now we’re just cheering for the Constitution and Freedom and “the Austrian school.”
I came to all of these conclusions before I even heard about the crazy history of Ron Paul’s newsletters in the eighties and nineties, which are full of paranoid rantings about blacks and gays and communists and prone to lines like "Order was only restored [in the L.A. riots] when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks."
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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You think this why? Honest question
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: stuntmanmike]
#14462753 - 05/16/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Matt Taibbi is an even stupider cunt than Ron Paul.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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dude you must be soooo smart like a genius fer realz huh?
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: stuntmanmike]
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dude you must be soooo smart like a genius fer realz huh?
Yeah man. hes currently writing a book that displays his economic and political genius and will also solve all problems within America and possibly across the globe.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Poid]
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DeadHearts said: But he is saying things and seems to believe in what is truly right and important for real actual progress in this country and world. We will see.
That's what Obama seemed like, and just look at him now... 
I knew Obama was a lying dirtbag from day 1.
Ron Paul is a man of integrity. In other words, he isn't a liar. Ron Paul also wants to legalize all drugs, on a Federal level. So we could build our monotubs without fear and paranoia. He has also proven that he is a man of his word in his voting. He will not vote for anything un-Constitutional, and that is what this country needs: to get back to Constitutional rule of Law. Just for the record, national drug laws are 180° from the Constitution, and the idea of America as a whole. Ron Paul knows this and even acknowledges it in front of his Republican pals. Anyway, I really like Ron Paul.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: stuntmanmike]
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dude you must be soooo smart like a genius fer realz huh?
As far as you can tell, yes.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#14462819 - 05/16/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Way to answer my question zappa
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: unam sanctum]
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It wouldnt matter anyways. His views are ass ass backwards as the politics he believes in and he has no room/time to look at things in another light. Its like talking to a juggalo.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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Ron Paul doesn't sound brave, or wise, or noble, or smart to me.
Ron Paul, frankly, sounds like a drunken idiot at a bar, possibly with a history of prior mental instabilities, spouting off perfect stupidity with perfect confidence.
He can't be president. It would be a nightmare. It would be government by lunatic. He'd be briefed on actual facts and then simply say "Those aren't the facts. Report to me new facts consistent with my rigid ideology."
Ugh. Why this clown gets respect in the GOP, I don't know.
If it's the gold standard thing, less disreputable voices are calling for that. Steve Forbes not only endorses it, but predicts we'll be on it in 5 years.
But enough from Ron Paul. I get enough of the slightly-deranged codger act every Thanksgiving. I don't need Crazy Pop-Pop on my TV every three days.
Frank Zappa would vote for him.
Also, if you want to be taken seriously, lessen the ad hominem attacks. You are making yourself look like a fool. Your post conveys literally NO information.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: shroomer33]
#14462863 - 05/16/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ya that quote from him you posted is pretty laughable.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: unam sanctum]
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I'm sorry, that must have appeared while I was responding to the other. I didn't see it.
His foreign policy is that of a retard (see link above for just one example). He is an isolationist on trade. His economic policies demonize a useful agency while mostly ignoring the real problem.
I think he is a Pied Piper at best, his supporters are ignorant simpletons and there is more than a slight undercurrent of racism in his bleatings. I do not, however, think he is the least bit dangerous. If he was a woman he might be dangerous because he would get a big leg up as an affirmative action candidate but he isn't so he won't. He is about as effectual as Lyndon LaRouche.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#14462932 - 05/16/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Frank Zappa would've voted for him though,
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: Shroomism]
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I just dont understand the logic. We have been moving in the wrong direction for so long. Do we just vote in another fucking puppet? Or do we vote in someone that can possibly really bring REAL change and bring us down to what this country and government is supposed to be about. LIBERTY.
Zappa, WTF?
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14462967 - 05/16/11 04:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The whole politic structure in the USA is corrupted and rotten. Only the population can decide collectively that they had enough. Huge protests throughout the country would be way more effective than 1 one politician against the whole military-industrial complex.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14462972 - 05/16/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Ron Paul, frankly, sounds like a drunken idiot at a bar, possibly with a history of prior mental instabilities,"
wow, I think I'll vote for him! Sounds a lot better than what we have now.
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one guy isnt gonna change shit i like how all of america thinks if they pick the right guy every 4 years the whole world will change
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: stuntmanmike]
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one guy isnt gonna change shit i like how all of america thinks if they pick the right guy every 4 years the whole world will change
I agree. But damn it would be nice to see someone with some real substance at the "helm". Even if it doesnt mean much at all. But again I agree with you two.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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But yes Ron paul is probably the less corrupted of them all.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: shroomer33]
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Ron Paul doesn't sound brave, or wise, or noble, or smart to me.
Ron Paul, frankly, sounds like a drunken idiot at a bar, possibly with a history of prior mental instabilities, spouting off perfect stupidity with perfect confidence.
He can't be president. It would be a nightmare. It would be government by lunatic. He'd be briefed on actual facts and then simply say "Those aren't the facts. Report to me new facts consistent with my rigid ideology."
Ugh. Why this clown gets respect in the GOP, I don't know.
If it's the gold standard thing, less disreputable voices are calling for that. Steve Forbes not only endorses it, but predicts we'll be on it in 5 years.
But enough from Ron Paul. I get enough of the slightly-deranged codger act every Thanksgiving. I don't need Crazy Pop-Pop on my TV every three days.
Frank Zappa would vote for him.
Also, if you want to be taken seriously, lessen the ad hominem attacks. You are making yourself look like a fool. Your post conveys literally NO information.
Excuse me but that was a link to a rather lengthy article full of quite a bit of substance. You, no doubt, didn't bother to read it. I have also posted well over a hundred posts about this jackass in the proper forum for political discussion, many of them quite detailed and lengthy. It is called "Political Discussion". I realize that his drug prohibition stance is very popular here (duh) and share his extremist views regarding that. I also realize that they will NEVER be law. The people don't want it and the office of the Presidency is virtually irrelevant to changing it. I will commend you for believing Zappa might vote for him. Most of the people who tell me I don't know Zappa's mind are big government liberals, which makes me laugh my ass off.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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one guy isnt gonna change shit i like how all of america thinks if they pick the right guy every 4 years the whole world will change
I agree. But damn it would be nice to see someone with some real substance at the "helm". Even if it doesnt mean much at all. But again I agree with you two.
Ron Paul is not a man of substance. He is a superficial jackass who panders to simpletons
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#14463048 - 05/16/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How many times are you going to spew this bullshit because you cannot trust in the mans views. So you resort to calling him a fuckin racist and this and that.
How in any way is he worse than any other of these fucking idiots we have had in office for so many years?? Its time for something new and RADICAL!!! Because guess what? This shit is not working.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Zappa, anyone can call anyone anything. You dont substantiate your assertions at all, like was said before, a ton of Ad Hominem and illogical statements shrouded in a veil of "knowledge"/
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said: How many times are you going to spew this bullshit because you cannot trust in the mans views. So you resort to calling him a fuckin racist and this and that.
How in any way is he worse than any other of these fucking idiots we have had in office for so many years?? Its time for something new and RADICAL!!! Because guess what? This shit is not working.
Oh no? This isn't working but what that isolationist jackass proposes would? Not working? Even in one of many cyclical recessions we still have a gloriously easy life that makes any earlier generation swoon.
I have written several hundred posts about this cunt in the appropriate forum. Feel free to search them. I get tired of writing the same shit over and over again every time this moron's name comes up among the sophomoriat. And I most certainly do believe him to be a Jew hater. For reasons I have eluciadated several fucking times in the appropriate forum.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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DeadHearts said: How many times are you going to spew this bullshit because you cannot trust in the mans views. So you resort to calling him a fuckin racist and this and that.
How in any way is he worse than any other of these fucking idiots we have had in office for so many years?? Its time for something new and RADICAL!!! Because guess what? This shit is not working.
Oh no? This isn't working but what that isolationist jackass proposes would? Not working? Even in one of many cyclical recessions we still have a gloriously easy life that makes any earlier generation swoon.
I have written several hundred posts about this cunt in the appropriate forum. Feel free to search them. I get tired of writing the same shit over and over again every time this moron's name comes up among the sophomoriat. And I most certainly do believe him to be a Jew hater. For reasons I have eluciadated several fucking times in the appropriate forum.
Oh yeah even with how bad it is now we still have such an easy life. Wow man get real.
Watch that above video and humble yourself.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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And change youre name while youre at it because Zappa clearly is just the same as me and many others on this site. Someone you despise and someone whos views you are 100% against with every single bone in youre body. You really need to break out of the prison you have made for youre very own mind my friend.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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Feel free to search the hundred plus posts I have made about this moron over the last several years. Those posts were made in the appropriate forum for Political Discussion. None of my statements have been illogical. There is nothing about his foreign policy that is even sane (for one example of rampant idiocy see the article I linked in this thread) and that is the one single area where the President can actually be king.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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Well....I think I'll take legal weed and isolationism over militarism abroad and prohibition at home...
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: starfire_xes]
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Thats a narrow view of his policies and the president doesnt have the power to just make weed legal tomorrow
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: starfire_xes]
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said: And change youre name while youre at it because Zappa clearly is just the same as me and many others on this site. Someone you despise and someone whos views you are 100% against with every single bone in youre body. You really need to break out of the prison you have made for youre very own mind my friend.
In that video Zappa said national defense is a legit function of the federal government. And his assertion that during the Reagan years we were moving toward a national theocracy is clearly false. It didn't happen, did it?
None of that is relevant to my objections to Ron Paul. Trade isolationist and foreign policy fool. I have repeatedly stated my positions on drug prohibition but they are rather low on my list of priorities for Presidential qualifications. Especially since the President can't really do dick about them.
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In that video Zappa said national defense is a legit function of the federal government. And his assertion that during the Reagan years we were moving toward a national theocracy is clearly false. It didn't happen, did it?
None of that is relevant to my objections to Ron Paul. Trade isolationist and foreign policy fool. I have repeatedly stated my positions on drug prohibition but they are rather low on my list of priorities for Presidential qualifications. Especially since the President can't really do dick about them.
National defense is fine. But look how much we spend on defense. Its absolutely insane. To keep it short.
The whole drug thing is a terribly important subject and matter that people need to be educated about and that IS something a president can do. To keep it short again I believe we ABSOLUTELY NEED a RADICAL change in the way our government operates and we need to start somewhere.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: stuntmanmike]
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Thats a narrow view of his policies and the president doesnt have the power to just make weed legal tomorrow
LOL. You're confused man, the policies of his that you are scared of are the ones he cannot just change tomorrow, he can abolish the CSA through an executive order, and he can pull our troops out of the "police actions" tomorrow.
He cannot however abolish SS, medicare and the Dept. of Education tomorrow.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Drug prohibition is functionally dick for most people. They don't really care. And no, I do not want the office of the federal executive to be involved in education AT ALL. I do not believe that any amount of education will sway the public's mind regarding prohibition.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: Drug prohibition is functionally dick for most people. They don't really care. And no, I do not want the office of the federal executive to be involved in education AT ALL. I do not believe that any amount of education will sway the public's mind regarding prohibition.
You saying it means dick for "most people" is garbage at best. Almost everyone in one way or another is affected by the war on drugs. Do you realize how much money is invested is this pointless war??
Educating the public should not be something the governemnt should stick its nose into except for drugs IMO. Because they were the ones that help spew all the disinfo in the first place.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
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Thats a narrow view of his policies and the president doesnt have the power to just make weed legal tomorrow
LOL. You're confused man, the policies of his that you are scared of are the ones he cannot just change tomorrow, he can abolish the CSA through an executive order, and he can pull our troops out of the "police actions" tomorrow.
He cannot however abolish SS, medicare and the Dept. of Education tomorrow.
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WTf are you talking about all i said was he cant make weed legal your putting words in my mouth so stfu
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: stuntmanmike]
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You saying it means dick for "most people" is garbage at best. Almost everyone in one way or another is affected by the war on drugs. Do you realize how much money is invested is this pointless war??
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Educating the public should not be something the governemnt should stick its nose into except for drugs IMO. Because they were the ones that help spew all the disinfo in the first place.
Nope. Stop blaming the government. It's your neighbors. They want drug prohibition. Education won't change that. They WANT to tell you how to behave.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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Tell me how education about drugs and making it well known how much money is wrapped up in drug prohibition wont help anything.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Because "thats what the people want"???
Dude. WTF.
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Most people want it.
Most people are idiots
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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I'll have to agree with Zappaisgod on most points he raised. RP is an extremist kook and his chances of getting elected are dismal at best.
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And if it doesnt help the people that are to fuckin stubborn then it will help the youth that are not so death grip set in their mindless ways.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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So we should just stay business as usual right?
Be careful what you wish for. I think the amount of money spent is irrelevant to most people because they think drug legalization will put them on the hook for medical expenses.
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So we should just stay business as usual right?
Be careful what you wish for. I think the amount of money spent is irrelevant to most people because they think drug legalization will put them on the hook for medical expenses.
We would only have to spend a fraction to educate rather than putting people in prison for simply choosing what they want to put into their body. Building prisons and tearing family's apart because the government tells us how much worse off we would be if drugs are allowed on the street. Drugs that will be there and consumed regardless of how strict penalty's are.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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It's not the concept of public education in itself that cause mediocre education. It's just that politicians have been cutting in the social services because of budget austerity pressured by greedy corporate pigs.
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DeadHearts said: Tell me how education about drugs and making it well known how much money is wrapped up in drug prohibition wont help anything.
So we should just stay business as usual right?
Be careful what you wish for. I think the amount of money spent is irrelevant to most people because they think drug legalization will put them on the hook for medical expenses.
We would only have to spend a fraction to educate rather than putting people in prison for simply choosing what they want to put into their body. Building prisons and tearing family's apart because the government tells us how much worse off we would be if drugs are allowed on the street. Drugs that will be there and consumed regardless of how strict penalty's are.
Come on man.
I'm going to say this YET AGAIN. I believe that all drugs should be available for all adults to use at their whim. No one should be imprisoned for either using or selling, unless they mislabel. I also believe that anybody who abuses drugs and finds himself fucked is automatically excluded from ANY government help. My position saves real money. What is your position on rescuing drug abusing losers who fuck themselves up?
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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I will say RP's affinity to the constitution and ideas on foreign policy are at best outdated. At the same time I couldn't give one fuck and would rather have him in office as opposed to literally anyone else who has announced their candidacy. I mean a lot of whether people like him or not comes down to their world views. Personally I don't think America (our gov. because they make the choices) is any better then any other country and we really need to fuck off with that attitude and also the idea that we are somehow allowed to magically police the world.
Zappa: All I would say is I've never seen RP come across as a racist AT ALL. I am no racist either but I am willing to publicly state my disapproval of the Israeli state (NOT THE JEWS THEMSELVES, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING). Why? Because Rothschild Zionism and its supporters committed genocide (the same thing they were running from) against a different and equally innocent ethnic group. I say all this because usually when prominent figures are accused of being anti-semitic they are actually only saying something along the same lines of what I just did.
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This is not exactly coherent. We spend more money per pupil on education than almost every other developed country and, since it is almost entirely government controlled, corporations are irrelevant. The vast majority of education funds go to unionized teachers who are overwhelmingly liberal and indoctrinate the little children in a vile liberal ideology. Corporations? Nada.
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So we should just stay business as usual right?
Be careful what you wish for. I think the amount of money spent is irrelevant to most people because they think drug legalization will put them on the hook for medical expenses.
We would only have to spend a fraction to educate rather than putting people in prison for simply choosing what they want to put into their body. Building prisons and tearing family's apart because the government tells us how much worse off we would be if drugs are allowed on the street. Drugs that will be there and consumed regardless of how strict penalty's are.
Come on man.
I'm going to say this YET AGAIN. I believe that all drugs should be available for all adults to use at their whim. No one should be imprisoned for either using or selling, unless they mislabel. I also believe that anybody who abuses drugs and finds himself fucked is automatically excluded from ANY government help. My position saves real money. What is your position on rescuing drug abusing losers who fuck themselves up?
Listen all I am sayin in regards to this is it would be much more productive of an investment to helping SICK people rather than throwing them in prison thus churning out yet another criminal.
I do not necessarily think we need to help addicts via government help. But educating the public of what is really going on is terribly important. Its like the DARE program instead of grooming kids to be fearful of drugs.
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This is not exactly coherent. We spend more money per pupil on education than almost every other developed country and, since it is almost entirely government controlled, corporations are irrelevant. The vast majority of education funds go to unionized teachers who are overwhelmingly liberal and indoctrinate the little children in a vile liberal ideology. Corporations? Nada.
  
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Zappa: All I would say is I've never seen RP come across as a racist AT ALL. I am no racist either but I am willing to publicly state my disapproval of the Israeli state (NOT THE JEWS THEMSELVES, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING). Why? Because Rothschild Zionism and its supporters committed genocide (the same thing they were running from) against a different and equally innocent ethnic group. I say all this because usually when prominent figures are accused of being anti-semitic they are actually only saying something along the same lines of what I just did.
1. I have seen this genocide bullshit several times. If the Zionists, as you call them, are perpetrating a genocide how come the population of their supposed victims is increasing much faster than theirs is? 2. See Lew Rockwell. 3. And if you don't think America is exceptional, fucking move. Get out. Fuck off. 4. The rest of the civilized world has profited and freeloaded off of the US's willingness to be the police. Ask Poland.
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This is not exactly coherent. We spend more money per pupil on education than almost every other developed country and, since it is almost entirely government controlled, corporations are irrelevant. The vast majority of education funds go to unionized teachers who are overwhelmingly liberal and indoctrinate the little children in a vile liberal ideology. Corporations? Nada.
Everything you just said is completely wrong. But my favorite part is the stab at teachers, ya damn those wealthy teachers. All stuck up living in there mansions. Ya you know how everybody tells you to stay away from business school, go into education thats where the big bucks are.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: stuntmanmike]
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Public education is bad, but I think if anything it should be at the State/Local level. California is not the same as Arkansas, and I believe the curriculum's should parallel that.
The federal government has no place in education.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Listen all I am sayin in regards to this is it would be much more productive of an investment to helping SICK people rather than throwing them in prison thus churning out yet another criminal.
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I do not necessarily think we need to help addicts via government help. But educating the public of what is really going on is terribly important. Its like the DARE program instead of grooming kids to be fearful of drugs.
See. That's why I'm not interested in education. DARE is an education program and lots of people honestly disagree with us. I'd rather the government just get out of the business entirely
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And I say again I do not think government has any place in public education. But it now should have a responsibility to produce certain programs that do not produce a fearful/negative outlook on people that use drugs and drugs in general.
People that become addicts are people that are truly sick individuals. They are not just pieces of shit off the street.
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Zappa: All I would say is I've never seen RP come across as a racist AT ALL. I am no racist either but I am willing to publicly state my disapproval of the Israeli state (NOT THE JEWS THEMSELVES, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING). Why? Because Rothschild Zionism and its supporters committed genocide (the same thing they were running from) against a different and equally innocent ethnic group. I say all this because usually when prominent figures are accused of being anti-semitic they are actually only saying something along the same lines of what I just did.
1. I have seen this genocide bullshit several times. If the Zionists, as you call them, are perpetrating a genocide how come the population of their supposed victims is increasing much faster than theirs is? 2. See Lew Rockwell. 3. And if you don't think America is exceptional, fucking move. Get out. Fuck off. 4. The rest of the civilized world has profited and freeloaded off of the US's willingness to be the police. Ask Poland.
1.Bullshit? Whatever bro check land ownership prior to British occupation of Palestine and then check it now... 2. I will. 3. I never said I think America isn't exceptional please don't put words in my mouth- I said we aren't (humble!) better then anyone else and we have no right to decide who we want to invade when we want to invade them. And I've only been polite no need to tell me to get out or fuck off. 4. Exactly what does this even mean? So what if they do Halliburton and numerous other TNC's take more handouts then every other country combined.
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I'll vote for Ron Paul because he is the only one who can truly make a difference. This is just a start, though. The whole ideal of less federal government is taking off and I think it's a damn good thing. While I don't necessarily agree with all of his ideals, I agree with a whole lot more than the stupid fucks who have run this country in to the ground.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: gzuf]
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I think that is what it comes down to but in a different way than what my dumb ass did when the last election rolled around in choosing "the lesser evil"
And Zappa do not ignore my fucking posts. If you are going to do that just put me on nig already.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
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Vsnares.Zappa said: Most people are idiots
Which is why abolishing public education is a terrible idea.
What do you think produced those idiots?
TV mostly. And a shitty public education system.
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This is not exactly coherent. We spend more money per pupil on education than almost every other developed country and, since it is almost entirely government controlled, corporations are irrelevant. The vast majority of education funds go to unionized teachers who are overwhelmingly liberal and indoctrinate the little children in a vile liberal ideology. Corporations? Nada.
Everything you just said is completely wrong. But my favorite part is the stab at teachers, ya damn those wealthy teachers. All stuck up living in there mansions. Ya you know how everybody tells you to stay away from business school, go into education thats where the big bucks are.
Nothing I said is wrong and I didn't mention one single thing about what teachers get paid, although I do believe they are overpaid in many places. I mentioned their role in liberal indoctrination.
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I'm going to say this YET AGAIN. I believe that all drugs should be available for all adults to use at their whim. No one should be imprisoned for either using or selling, unless they mislabel. I also believe that anybody who abuses drugs and finds himself fucked is automatically excluded from ANY government help. My position saves real money. What is your position on rescuing drug abusing losers who fuck themselves up?
Listen all I am sayin in regards to this is it would be much more productive of an investment to helping SICK people rather than throwing them in prison thus churning out yet another criminal.
I do not necessarily think we need to help addicts via government help. But educating the public of what is really going on is terribly important. Its like the DARE program instead of grooming kids to be fearful of drugs.
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You are part of the problem.
oh i am? well every choice your make is doomed...your just too naive to figure it out. the system is flawed, therefore until its changed it will never really change.
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You are part of the problem.
oh i am? well every choice your make is doomed...your just too naive to figure it out. the system is flawed, therefore until its changed it will never really change.
I agree to an extent but do you really think not going out to vote is going to help anything?
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Zappa: All I would say is I've never seen RP come across as a racist AT ALL. I am no racist either but I am willing to publicly state my disapproval of the Israeli state (NOT THE JEWS THEMSELVES, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING). Why? Because Rothschild Zionism and its supporters committed genocide (the same thing they were running from) against a different and equally innocent ethnic group. I say all this because usually when prominent figures are accused of being anti-semitic they are actually only saying something along the same lines of what I just did.
1. I have seen this genocide bullshit several times. If the Zionists, as you call them, are perpetrating a genocide how come the population of their supposed victims is increasing much faster than theirs is? 2. See Lew Rockwell. 3. And if you don't think America is exceptional, fucking move. Get out. Fuck off. 4. The rest of the civilized world has profited and freeloaded off of the US's willingness to be the police. Ask Poland.
1.Bullshit? Whatever bro check land ownership prior to British occupation of Palestine and then check it now... You need a new dictionary. One that has a proper definition of genocide 2. I will. 3. I never said I think America isn't exceptional please don't put words in my mouth- I said we aren't (humble!) better then anyone else and we have no right to decide who we want to invade when we want to invade them. And I've only been polite no need to tell me to get out or fuck off. What do you think exceptional means? 4. Exactly what does this even mean? So what if they do Halliburton and numerous other TNC's take more handouts then every other country combined.
The entirety of Europe owes their freedom from communist hegemony to the vast sums we spent. Halliburton doesn't take anything. They are paid to provide a service. They aren't recipients of charity like the entirety of Europe is. Every free European should blow any American who requests it.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14463949 - 05/16/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
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DeadHearts


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DarkMatterOfFact said: least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
We have to work with what we have. That is one thing that is never going to happen unless all hell breaks loose.
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zappaisgod
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DarkMatterOfFact said: least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
This attitude makes me happy.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14464002 - 05/16/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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DarkMatterOfFact said: least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
We have to work with what we have. That is one thing that is never going to happen unless all hell breaks loose.
you never know, people do have a breaking point and fear-mongering doesnt work forever in any past civilization it eventually fails.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#14464028 - 05/16/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DarkMatterOfFact said: least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
This attitude makes me happy.
What would make me happy is you responding to my posts.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14468537 - 05/17/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I did. My replies are in bold because I figured we were running up on that nested quote limit.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14474595 - 05/18/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DarkMatterOfFact said: voting is a waste of time its all rigged. i got better things to do then believe lies and media whoring.
You are part of the problem.
oh i am? well every choice your make is doomed...your just too naive to figure it out. the system is flawed, therefore until its changed it will never really change.
I agree to an extent but do you really think not going out to vote is going to help anything?
Getting out and voting won't do shit. We need people like us to get into government. Then voting will actually mean something.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: shroomer33]
#14474726 - 05/18/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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And how do you suppose we get into government within a democratic system? Most of us don't have the money or connections to get us in like elites do, so that really only leaves one option other than a bloody peoples revolt.
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\\\\Derailment Warning//// In The Present Age, Kierkegaard basically (and I'm over simplifying) predicted that in the future, when everyone was to have an equal voice, they would all become meaningless and action on any of them would be impossible. This appears more true to me everyday.
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shroomer33
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SeekerOfTheStone said: And how do you suppose we get into government within a democratic system? Most of us don't have the money or connections to get us in like elites do, so that really only leaves one option other than a bloody peoples revolt.
You can easily get into local and state government. You don't need to be elite. That is where the fight is anyway.
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Vsnares.Zappa
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: shroomer33]
#14475219 - 05/18/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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the fight is in the streets.
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shroomer33
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Vsnares.Zappa said: the fight is in the streets.
If things get taken to the streets, we will be crushed instantly. They have the sound guns, rubber bullets, and gas. And the cops that take up arms against us are just useful idiots. Taking things to the streets will not change anything. The only way to change the system is from the inside out. At least that's how I see it.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: shroomer33]
#14475514 - 05/18/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I meant in the form of protests.
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just gotta keep talking to people. bring up these issues. Internet is our friend man..
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14476154 - 05/18/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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realfuzzhead said: just gotta keep talking to people. bring up these issues. Internet is our friend man..
Totally. I tell everyone about this stuff, even my students. And I teach math, physics, and astronomy, none of which have to do with politics or drugs.
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