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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
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Listen all I am sayin in regards to this is it would be much more productive of an investment to helping SICK people rather than throwing them in prison thus churning out yet another criminal.
Oh no you don't. They aren't sick and they can go fuck themselves
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I do not necessarily think we need to help addicts via government help. But educating the public of what is really going on is terribly important. Its like the DARE program instead of grooming kids to be fearful of drugs.
See. That's why I'm not interested in education. DARE is an education program and lots of people honestly disagree with us. I'd rather the government just get out of the business entirely
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14463688 - 05/16/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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realfuzzhead said: Public education is bad, but I think if anything it should be at the State/Local level. California is not the same as Arkansas, and I believe the curriculum's should parallel that.
The federal government has no place in education.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14463702 - 05/16/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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And I say again I do not think government has any place in public education. But it now should have a responsibility to produce certain programs that do not produce a fearful/negative outlook on people that use drugs and drugs in general.
People that become addicts are people that are truly sick individuals. They are not just pieces of shit off the street.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#14463721 - 05/16/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Zappa: All I would say is I've never seen RP come across as a racist AT ALL. I am no racist either but I am willing to publicly state my disapproval of the Israeli state (NOT THE JEWS THEMSELVES, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING). Why? Because Rothschild Zionism and its supporters committed genocide (the same thing they were running from) against a different and equally innocent ethnic group. I say all this because usually when prominent figures are accused of being anti-semitic they are actually only saying something along the same lines of what I just did.
1. I have seen this genocide bullshit several times. If the Zionists, as you call them, are perpetrating a genocide how come the population of their supposed victims is increasing much faster than theirs is? 2. See Lew Rockwell. 3. And if you don't think America is exceptional, fucking move. Get out. Fuck off. 4. The rest of the civilized world has profited and freeloaded off of the US's willingness to be the police. Ask Poland.
1.Bullshit? Whatever bro check land ownership prior to British occupation of Palestine and then check it now... 2. I will. 3. I never said I think America isn't exceptional please don't put words in my mouth- I said we aren't (humble!) better then anyone else and we have no right to decide who we want to invade when we want to invade them. And I've only been polite no need to tell me to get out or fuck off. 4. Exactly what does this even mean? So what if they do Halliburton and numerous other TNC's take more handouts then every other country combined.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14463755 - 05/16/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll vote for Ron Paul because he is the only one who can truly make a difference. This is just a start, though. The whole ideal of less federal government is taking off and I think it's a damn good thing. While I don't necessarily agree with all of his ideals, I agree with a whole lot more than the stupid fucks who have run this country in to the ground.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: gzuf]
#14463763 - 05/16/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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gzuf said: I'll vote for Ron Paul because he is the only one who can truly make a difference. This is just a start, though. The whole ideal of less federal government is taking off and I think it's a damn good thing. While I don't necessarily agree with all of his ideals, I agree with a whole lot more than the stupid fucks who have run this country in to the ground.
I think that is what it comes down to but in a different way than what my dumb ass did when the last election rolled around in choosing "the lesser evil"
And Zappa do not ignore my fucking posts. If you are going to do that just put me on nig already.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#14463851 - 05/16/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Vsnares.Zappa said: Most people are idiots
Which is why abolishing public education is a terrible idea.
What do you think produced those idiots?
TV mostly. And a shitty public education system.
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voting is a waste of time its all rigged. i got better things to do then believe lies and media whoring.
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DarkMatterOfFact said: voting is a waste of time its all rigged. i got better things to do then believe lies and media whoring.
You are part of the problem.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: stuntmanmike]
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Vsnares.Zappa said: It's not the concept of public education in itself that cause mediocre education. It's just that politicians have been cutting in the social services because of budget austerity pressured by greedy corporate pigs.
This is not exactly coherent. We spend more money per pupil on education than almost every other developed country and, since it is almost entirely government controlled, corporations are irrelevant. The vast majority of education funds go to unionized teachers who are overwhelmingly liberal and indoctrinate the little children in a vile liberal ideology. Corporations? Nada.
Everything you just said is completely wrong. But my favorite part is the stab at teachers, ya damn those wealthy teachers. All stuck up living in there mansions. Ya you know how everybody tells you to stay away from business school, go into education thats where the big bucks are.
Nothing I said is wrong and I didn't mention one single thing about what teachers get paid, although I do believe they are overpaid in many places. I mentioned their role in liberal indoctrination.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14463906 - 05/16/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm going to say this YET AGAIN. I believe that all drugs should be available for all adults to use at their whim. No one should be imprisoned for either using or selling, unless they mislabel. I also believe that anybody who abuses drugs and finds himself fucked is automatically excluded from ANY government help. My position saves real money. What is your position on rescuing drug abusing losers who fuck themselves up?
Listen all I am sayin in regards to this is it would be much more productive of an investment to helping SICK people rather than throwing them in prison thus churning out yet another criminal.
I do not necessarily think we need to help addicts via government help. But educating the public of what is really going on is terribly important. Its like the DARE program instead of grooming kids to be fearful of drugs.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14463913 - 05/16/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You are part of the problem.
oh i am? well every choice your make is doomed...your just too naive to figure it out. the system is flawed, therefore until its changed it will never really change.
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DarkMatterOfFact said: voting is a waste of time its all rigged. i got better things to do then believe lies and media whoring.
You are part of the problem.
oh i am? well every choice your make is doomed...your just too naive to figure it out. the system is flawed, therefore until its changed it will never really change.
I agree to an extent but do you really think not going out to vote is going to help anything?
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: unam sanctum]
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Zappa: All I would say is I've never seen RP come across as a racist AT ALL. I am no racist either but I am willing to publicly state my disapproval of the Israeli state (NOT THE JEWS THEMSELVES, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING). Why? Because Rothschild Zionism and its supporters committed genocide (the same thing they were running from) against a different and equally innocent ethnic group. I say all this because usually when prominent figures are accused of being anti-semitic they are actually only saying something along the same lines of what I just did.
1. I have seen this genocide bullshit several times. If the Zionists, as you call them, are perpetrating a genocide how come the population of their supposed victims is increasing much faster than theirs is? 2. See Lew Rockwell. 3. And if you don't think America is exceptional, fucking move. Get out. Fuck off. 4. The rest of the civilized world has profited and freeloaded off of the US's willingness to be the police. Ask Poland.
1.Bullshit? Whatever bro check land ownership prior to British occupation of Palestine and then check it now... You need a new dictionary. One that has a proper definition of genocide 2. I will. 3. I never said I think America isn't exceptional please don't put words in my mouth- I said we aren't (humble!) better then anyone else and we have no right to decide who we want to invade when we want to invade them. And I've only been polite no need to tell me to get out or fuck off. What do you think exceptional means? 4. Exactly what does this even mean? So what if they do Halliburton and numerous other TNC's take more handouts then every other country combined.
The entirety of Europe owes their freedom from communist hegemony to the vast sums we spent. Halliburton doesn't take anything. They are paid to provide a service. They aren't recipients of charity like the entirety of Europe is. Every free European should blow any American who requests it.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14463949 - 05/16/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
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DarkMatterOfFact said: least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
We have to work with what we have. That is one thing that is never going to happen unless all hell breaks loose.
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DarkMatterOfFact said: least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
This attitude makes me happy.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: DeadHearts]
#14464002 - 05/16/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DarkMatterOfFact said: least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
We have to work with what we have. That is one thing that is never going to happen unless all hell breaks loose.
you never know, people do have a breaking point and fear-mongering doesnt work forever in any past civilization it eventually fails.
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Re: Official Ron Paul thread (?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#14464028 - 05/16/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DarkMatterOfFact said: least it will give you the right to speak your disapproval of the voting system by refusing to be a a part of it.
if everyone boycotted it then that would make a huge statement.
This attitude makes me happy.
What would make me happy is you responding to my posts.
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