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OfflinePreparationH
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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14385981 - 05/01/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The death of Bin Laden just helped the Dems that much more, gooooood luck GOP.

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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: PreparationH]
    #14386002 - 05/01/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ron paul is a rapist.... but he wants to legalize it so he has my vote.


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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: PreparationH]
    #14387429 - 05/02/11 08:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Like I said,Obama 2012.  Can't wait to be a United States Marine.



Hahaha, you don't know what you're in for boy. Take it from a vet, you'll either regret it within a year in the fleet or you'll turn into a huge douchebag.

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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: limestoneman]
    #14387455 - 05/02/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:shrug: All my friends love it, my buddy just reenlisted too.  I always hear horror stories from people over the internet but all my buddies in RL keep enlisting and telling me it's tough but they wouldn't change what they've done.  Also, here at my school there are veterans that are getting their degree now who many say it was the best decision of their lives.  What did you dislike so much?


There is this ONE guy I know though that is a douche bag veteran but he was probably a douche bag before the marines

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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: sporesmores420]
    #14387461 - 05/02/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Ron paul is a rapist.... but he wants to legalize it so he has my vote.




:lolwut:

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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: PreparationH]
    #14387543 - 05/02/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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:shrug: All my friends love it, my buddy just reenlisted too.  I always hear horror stories from people over the internet but all my buddies in RL keep enlisting and telling me it's tough but they wouldn't change what they've done.  Also, here at my school there are veterans that are getting their degree now who many say it was the best decision of their lives.  What did you dislike so much?


There is this ONE guy I know though that is a douche bag veteran but he was probably a douche bag before the marines



It depends. Some like it some don't. I can't speak for the marines, but I had a bunch of friends in hs join the army.. most got out within a year but the one or two people I've met who stayed within aren't the same.. in a sad way. They are like clones. Uptight and almost stripped of the personas they had back in hs. But from what I hear that's what part of militia life is... hours of training and drills to break you down of who you are to build you up into the person they want... can't speak for marines.. actually I've met two who weren't really like the army jar heads. A lot more down to earth... holy shit.. I'm high and rambling again. Gl tho


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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14391017 - 05/02/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ron Paul's f-d.  :syringe:  :fawkes:

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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus] * 1
    #14414893 - 05/07/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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but he's also a racist and anti-choice. Just another old white man who thinks he knows what is best for a woman's uterus.

Fuck Ron Paul





Ron Paul is not a racist. Being racist is being a collectivist, where libertarian philosophy is all about being a individualist. Ron Paul has talked on this many times, and all the racist remarks about Ron Paul have been cleared a long time ago. Even the NAACP has made statements affirming Ron Paul is not racist.

Yes Ron Paul is just another white man who thinks he knows what best for a woman's uterus. Maybe just maybe that might be cause he is an OB/GYN trained at one of the best medical schools in the country and delivered over 4000 babies in his career. Instead of you calling him anti-choice, lets just call you anti-life. A obstetricians job and mission is to protect the unborn/newborns life. So once again as we have seen time and time before, Ron Paul is the most consistent politician in America.

With all the shit that is going on in this country, you want to make the debate over the single issue of fucking abortion. Being against the drug war, to me is the perfect metric to measure whether someone believes in personal freedom and liberty or not. He is by far the best candidate out right now and has the best shot of anyone to beat Obama.

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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: bugabuga420]
    #14416015 - 05/07/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: 28064212]
    #14416335 - 05/07/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Yes Ron Paul is just another white man who thinks he knows what best for a woman's uterus. Maybe just maybe that might be cause he is an OB/GYN trained at one of the best medical schools in the country and delivered over 4000 babies in his career. Instead of you calling him anti-choice, lets just call you anti-life. A obstetricians job and mission is to protect the unborn/newborns life. So once again as we have seen time and time before, Ron Paul is the most consistent politician in America.




My issue with Ron Paul's stance on abortion is that if abortion is not federally protected, we will wind up with a lot of states that will ban it outright. That means that in those states, we will have women having unsafe abortions in an illegal environment. His insistence on "protecting the unborn" completely disregards the safety of the presently living! Young, poor, or single pregnant women will be victimized by this policy. It sets a scary precedent. South Dakota wanted to legalize the murder of abortion doctors. Would president Paul shrug and say "state's rights?" States could impose laws that retroactively incriminate abortion doctors for capital murder, making them face life sentences or the death penalty. Would president Paul say "state's rights?"

I believe that it is the federal government's duty to protect all citizens. I believe that this is what the Constitution mandates. I believe that Ron Paul does not agree with this. He is so concerned about whether or not having paper money is constitutional that he is forgetting that the federal government exists to ensure that all Americans can have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

But, you know, he thinks weed should be legal so hooray! Lets not worry about libertarian principles eroding the safety nets that other industrial nations protect. Lets not worry about the poor, what's really important is whether it is constitutional to provide them with health care. Libertarianism is close to Ayn Rand's principle of "every man for himself." It is not a good way to build a community, and not a good foundation for a nation.

Fucking druggies, give em a whiff of some kind bud and that's all they can think about.


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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14416354 - 05/07/11 07:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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My issue with Ron Paul's stance on abortion is that if abortion is not federally protected, we will wind up with a lot of states that will ban it outright.




That you for your well informed reply!

I'm glad that you're informed enough to know that that Ron Paul wants to leave it up to the states and that his personal opinion is irrelevant.


You also make a great point here about some states potentially banning it etc.

but isn't that more democratic?  shouldn't states be able to do that if they want? you don;t have to live in that state, and you could potentially go to another state to get an abortion.


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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Shins]
    #14416365 - 05/07/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The choices that states have to create environments they condone also allows states to legalize drugs.  I'm guessing that the states that are okay with drugs aren't going to frown on abortions.


Just do your homework, and understand that you have the freedom to choose where you want to live.


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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: scienceguy]
    #14416376 - 05/07/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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but isn't that more democratic?  shouldn't states be able to do that if they want? you don;t have to live in that state, and you could potentially go to another state to get an abortion.




Yes and no, and this goes back to the old arguments of Federalism. My opinion is that the national government is responsible for ensuring certain rights for citizens of all states. I believe that abortion should be one of those protected rights, hell, I believe that there should be a constitutional amendment protecting that right. When you remove power from the federal government (which, remember, is democratically elected) you open up avenues for states to pass legislation that can abuse some of their own citizens. Take slavery, if it was not constitutionally banned, I am certain that there would be states with legal slavery.

Additionally it is often impossible for people to leave the states they are living in. This is especially true for women who would seek abortions based on economic reasons. If you don't have enough money to raise a kid, it is unlikely you have enough money to emigrate. As for simply driving out of state to get the procedure, who's to say that more conservative states won't pass laws to prevent this, or to punish women who go through this.

But this is why I'm not a libertarian. I'm a social democrat. I'm all for big government so long as its primary duties are providing for the protection and welfare for all citizens equally. There are large segments of the population who do not believe that certain citizens deserve such protections, and libertarian anti-federalism exposes these certain citizens to abuse.


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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14419410 - 05/08/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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In a hypothetical match-up between Paul and Obama, Obama beats Paul by only seven percentage points (52 to 45 percent). Meanwhile, Obama bests former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee by eight points, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney by 11 points, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich by 17 points, former Alaska Governor and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin by 19 points, and Trump by a whopping 22 points. (The poll, by the way, was taken April 29 – May 1



http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/7382-cnn-poll-ron-paul-stands-best-chance-against-obama

sweet, and he's tied for second in new hampshire.


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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14419492 - 05/08/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't vote Republican.


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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #14419496 - 05/08/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't vote Republican.




quoted for the motha fuckin truth.


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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus] * 1
    #14419539 - 05/08/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm: he's not your typical GOP! what dont people understand about this? Dont group him with all the other godloving, shoving their morals down your throat, very interventionist douchies that rep the GOP.

He is a true fiscal conservative. If you want to fix our debt problem listen to him! everyone else wans to cut NPR and planned parent hood which are like 0.005% of defense but not cut defense at all! He is the only one of and for the people.

you guys will regret not voting for him if we get stuck with another douchbag change nothing president for the next 4 years

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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14419562 - 05/08/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I will absolutely not regret not voting for someone who will gut social programs


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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus] * 1
    #14419694 - 05/08/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

cant tell sarcasm over the internet.

NOOONE will cut as much as RP. Starting with saving hundreds of billions oversea's, he would make it optional for young people to opt-out of social security. He has prmoised to keep the States promise and pay off social security to those who have paid into it their whole life, and then slowly ween us off of the nany state.


NO MORE FUCKING NANNY STATE. Ron Paul is our only hope

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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #14419753 - 05/08/11 01:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think the problem right now with Ron Paul and the mainstream is he hasn't seemed to make a clear cut plan how he plans to do everything?

Does he have plans for military defense?              Maybe people think if he becomes president America's gonna start getting bombed and shit.............

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