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OfflinePatlal
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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: spock]
    #14415338 - 05/07/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



This is the most classic beer.

History dates that the brewery was founded in 1553. The company is still around today


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Patlal]
    #14415359 - 05/07/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

becks has been around 500 years....  beer has been around for over

9000 years


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #14415439 - 05/07/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Your use of the word 'classical' is totally arbitrary.






Eh, wouldn't say entirely. Classical isn't synonymous as "oldest" or "original", although they do tend to coincide. Something classical is what is generally pleasing to the widest range of individuals. Classical can be created today.


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: spock]
    #14415445 - 05/07/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Is it possible to buy the kind of beer that we originally invented as a replacement for water, in the event it was contaminated?




Yep. It's called beer. Much of the world has "contaminated" water coming out of it's faucet's. Most people
don't drink bottled water.


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Beer is called beer? You're smart!


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Epigallo]
    #14415513 - 05/07/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

OP, I think I know what you mean and I now regret having been so prickish in my reply.

I had my first taste of beer when I was 2 and that flavor has absolutely stuck with me.  I have been chasing it ever since.

The beer I tasted was probably PBR or Old Style.  Not that that means that this is the original flavor. ...or the "flavor enjoyed by the most people" -- it just happens to be what people drank where I grew up.


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Patlal]
    #14415519 - 05/07/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Patlal said:


This is the most classic beer.

History dates that the brewery was founded in 1553. The company is still around today




The oldest brewery in the world is believed to be the German state-owned Weihenstephan brewery in the city of Freising, Bavaria. It can trace its history back to 1040 AD (this is disputed by the nearby Weltenburg Abbey brewery, who can trace back its beer-brewing tradition to at least 1050 AD, claiming the Weihenstephan document is at least controversial. The Zatec brewery in the Czech Republic claims it can prove that it paid a beer tax in 1004 AD).

According to Wikipedia. 


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Epigallo]
    #14415535 - 05/07/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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bradley said:
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Me_Roy said:
Your use of the word 'classical' is totally arbitrary.






Eh, wouldn't say entirely. Classical isn't synonymous as "oldest" or "original", although they do tend to coincide. Something classical is what is generally pleasing to the widest range of individuals. Classical can be created today.




No, actually, not at all.  Classical refers more to a long-standing standard, more often elite than quotidian.

If your definition of 'classical' were correct, than pop music and classic music would be the same thing.

And no, 'classic rock' is no counter-argument -- 'classic' and 'classical' are not the same word.


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #14415537 - 05/07/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

discussion of beer on a drug forum = serious business.


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #14415684 - 05/07/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yuengling



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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Epigallo]
    #14416245 - 05/07/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You should check out some Dogfish Head brews. They have brewed a few beers based off ancient recipes. One that I've had that was pretty good is Midas Touch.

"This recipe is the actual oldest-known fermented beverage in the world! It is an ancient Turkish recipe using the original ingredients from the 2700 year old drinking vessels discovered in the tomb of King Midas. Somewhere between wine & mead; this smooth, sweet, yet dry ale will please the Chardonnay or beer drinker alike."



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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #14416581 - 05/07/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Me_Roy said:
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bradley said:
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Me_Roy said:
Your use of the word 'classical' is totally arbitrary.






Eh, wouldn't say entirely. Classical isn't synonymous as "oldest" or "original", although they do tend to coincide. Something classical is what is generally pleasing to the widest range of individuals. Classical can be created today.




No, actually, not at all.  Classical refers more to a long-standing standard, more often elite than quotidian.

If your definition of 'classical' were correct, than pop music and classic music would be the same thing.

And no, 'classic rock' is no counter-argument -- 'classic' and 'classical' are not the same word.




Not at all? Give me at least a little. Classical composers have been enjoyed by as many people as modern pop musicians, and I doubt that pop musicians will still be listened to many generations later. Is an aesthetic style long-standing due to some arbitrary roll of the die, or is it simply because it is pleasing to a wide range of individuals and naturally stands the test of time?

Classical aesthetics tend to be simple and elegant, and do not overwhelm or assault the senses. It works to call something "the most classical" of a group even if it is new. If I discovered a new plant that could be made into a drink, but one strain was extremely sweet, another extremely bitter, and another just slightly sweet, slightly tart, could you not call that one the most classical tasting?

Anyway, who cares. I think we have some common understanding of the sought "beer essence".


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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Epigallo]
    #14416766 - 05/07/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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bradley said:
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Me_Roy said:
Quote:

bradley said:
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Me_Roy said:
Your use of the word 'classical' is totally arbitrary.






Eh, wouldn't say entirely. Classical isn't synonymous as "oldest" or "original", although they do tend to coincide. Something classical is what is generally pleasing to the widest range of individuals. Classical can be created today.




No, actually, not at all.  Classical refers more to a long-standing standard, more often elite than quotidian.

If your definition of 'classical' were correct, than pop music and classic music would be the same thing.

And no, 'classic rock' is no counter-argument -- 'classic' and 'classical' are not the same word.




Not at all? Give me at least a little. Classical composers have been enjoyed by as many people as modern pop musicians, and I doubt that pop musicians will still be listened to many generations later. Is an aesthetic style long-standing due to some arbitrary roll of the die, or is it simply because it is pleasing to a wide range of individuals and naturally stands the test of time?

Classical aesthetics tend to be simple and elegant, and do not overwhelm or assault the senses. It works to call something "the most classical" of a group even if it is new. If I discovered a new plant that could be made into a drink, but one strain was extremely sweet, another extremely bitter, and another just slightly sweet, slightly tart, could you not call that one the most classical tasting?

Anyway, who cares. I think we have some common understanding of the sought "beer essence".





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Re: What is the most classical beer? [Re: Me_Roy]
    #14418203 - 05/08/11 04:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:cheers:


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