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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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How's the running surface you run on? If its quality and not covered in pebbles, try running barefoot. Running barefoot causes you to catch your stride on the ball of your foot, using your ankle/calve to pivot your foot down and spring back up - instead of landing on your heel and causing knee trauma.
Someone posted up a video about barefoot running vs. normal running once. Very interesting.
I also get the knee pain. Try KBs maybe? They're super-cardio, might help ya.
I find it interesting how you said "you cant train for cycling by cycling". Really? interesting!
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: memes]
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Definitely ditch the basketball shoes.
I started running in cross trainers and they have left me with a lasting issue in my left knee, 3+ years later.
Running shoes come in supinated, pronated or neutral design and will help work with your specific foot design/stride. It seems like a big investment but it is worth it.
When you get some $ together, purchase from a running store who can point you in the right direction.
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: Buckthorn]
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Oh man, I know what you mean. I've been running a lot recently too, and my knee has been sore for the past few days now.
It doesn't hurt while I am running, but after wards it can get pretty bad.
I'm gonna guess that running shoes will help you some, but in all honestly I think that the tissues in your leg just need to build up to handle the amount of stress running puts on them.
If it doesn't get any better over time then it might be a good idea to just stick to biking.
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Yrtlzmo said: Due to my history of knee issues I chose cycling to get my cardio in, but you can't train for cycling by cycling and I want to start racing soon. When I realized how much running helped my cycling I decided to run every other day, but at about the half mile mark I get moderate knee pain that persists until I stop. Afterwards I feel no discomfort and none while bicycling, only when running. I run in basketball shoes as I'm too poor to buy proper running shoes right now.
Could this be the cause of the pain? This is what I'm hoping, it's been so long (like over 6 years) since I've hurt my knees so I thought that was behind me. Is it a good sign that it only hurts when I run? Should I stop running completely? I'm just concerned one of these days the pain won't stop because I don't stop running when it hurts, I can't only run a half mile every other day that won't do shit.
start practicing hero's pose. it's a yoga pose where you basically kneel down on the ground and sit on top of your legs. it will really stretch out and open your knee joint and then flood it with blood.. it's a very resorative posture
also the one legged asanas in yoga will really help you build up the strength around your knee.. that's all i've got really
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: owls]
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You might want to look into running with correct stride. You might be striking your foot improperly which could translate into knee issues. This would especially be aggrevated by wearing improper shoes.
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14430698 - 05/10/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used to have knee pain running a lot. I switched to barefoot running and since, I have been able to sprint harder, faster, and no pain other than the result of hard training (muscle fatigue).
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#14432875 - 05/11/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#14506938 - 05/24/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just some food for thought for everyone here with knee and general joint problems. I too have been experiencing knee pain for a couples months now. The pain was most definitely aggravated by very heavy squatting and leg presses that was part of my training routine some months months ago. It basically felt like my cartilidge/joints had been shot-worn out and every step I was taking there was pain or sensation present.
Between that and all the abuse my joints had been through in the past couple of years with manuel labor jobs of construction, offroad irrigation maker-(walking many miles a day in fireman boots over various wilderness terrains) and mover. Plus the wear from previous bodybuilding and kickboxing. Not to mention my mothers family has a history of knee problems so this all added up into an unpleasant equation for the joints.
So the past 2 months I had been taking different fish oils, one that was even uber concentrated specialized for targeting inflammation, and a glucosamine/chondrition combo, but nothing was really helping.
Enter Animal Flex by Universal Nutrition, I bought this supplement online for like 20 bucks for 45 packs (7 pills each)- its basically everything known to man that is good for your joints, an all in one joint construction,repair,lubrication pill pack. Its only been four days and my knees feel great. This is what I had been looking for! No soreness in every step like they had been for a few months.
I HIGHLY recommend this stuff to any of you dudes that have chronic knee problems/joint pain. This is a real deal joint curing supplement, no bullshit. Universal makes high quality, potent stuff. They have been a bodybuilding supplement company since the 80's, so there products naturally caters to people pushing their bodies beyond the norms. Just wish I knew about this stuff earlier
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: Rumblefishtwist]
#14507272 - 05/24/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Be very careful with your knees, definitely don't wanna mess around if you are starting to have pain. My father ran for years and years up to 8 miles a day, he eventually was required to have knee replacement surgery; which I can assure you didn't feel. Look into posture, I really encourage to work on it; hurt knees and joints for that matter usually means that your not in balance.
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: don_vedo]
#14507962 - 05/25/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm having knee reconstruction in the morning. Just uh wanted to toss that out there... Wasn't from running though... skiing. But yes knee injuries DO suck, it's part of how you get around, your leg. I hate being gimpy for months on end.
Oh, there's always a chance something's already wrong in the knee, causing the joint pains. Who knows what it could be D:
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I used to be a track/xc runner in hs back in the day. Ill tell you this much....i had my meniscus(padding between thigh and calf bone) torn. Same kind of pain after only half a mile. I opted to just do phys therapy due to it being my senior year. Surgery would've put me out 6 months. Regardless....i still have knee pain. Its like a constant feeling of discomfort like someone pushing a finger into the side of my knee. Makes it hard to fall asleep sometimes too bc of the pain. Dont take the pain lightly. Go to the doc and get it checked.
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runningfox2002 said: I used to be a track/xc runner in hs back in the day. Ill tell you this much....i had my meniscus(padding between thigh and calf bone) torn. Same kind of pain after only half a mile. I opted to just do phys therapy due to it being my senior year. Surgery would've put me out 6 months. Regardless....i still have knee pain. Its like a constant feeling of discomfort like someone pushing a finger into the side of my knee. Makes it hard to fall asleep sometimes too bc of the pain. Dont take the pain lightly. Go to the doc and get it checked.
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runningfox2002 said: I used to be a track/xc runner in hs back in the day. Ill tell you this much....i had my meniscus(padding between thigh and calf bone) torn. Same kind of pain after only half a mile. I opted to just do phys therapy due to it being my senior year. Surgery would've put me out 6 months. Regardless....i still have knee pain. Its like a constant feeling of discomfort like someone pushing a finger into the side of my knee. Makes it hard to fall asleep sometimes too bc of the pain. Dont take the pain lightly. Go to the doc and get it checked.
You might still be able to get it reconstructed. :o
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Nah mine kept coming back until i finally went to the doc. It all started when i didnt stretch good one morning during the summer. It felt like i just didnt stretch enough but later that same summer i was running for practice and i barely made it around half of the school before i had to stop from the pAin. I havent really ran much but as long as you stretch good it could be fine. I forgot to mention i was running around this church camp in georgia and it had a mountain cliff surroundi g a lake with a jagged trail...so that and not stretching enough prob did me in lol.
Also i havent gotten it looked into more bc i can deal with the minimal pain for now til i finish my degree and get a career job where im making 60k or more(enginneer).
So basically stretch, wear good shoes lol(bc bballs are flatish i think), and youll be fine. If the pain didnt come back you prob pulled a muscle and it wasnt a major issue. Just be careful bc all the ppl ive talked to....you dont want to have to resort to surgery(if it ever became major) bc youll most likely be on pain meds or some kinda rx for a long time to get over it if it actually helps. Not to scare you lol...just surgery kinda makes knee back whatever kinda problem worse(might be why i havent looked intonit more besides the cost).
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: runningfox2002]
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If you ever do want surgery in the future, it would be a good idea to get an MRI on it first, just to assess what type of damage it is, and how long you can continue without doing more cartilage and possibly joint damage, (artificial knees are a different story from ACL and meniscus tears). Be safe runningfox! Hope your knees hold for you until you get everything going for you (and hopefully they'll still hold up!)
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: Maverick]
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My dad has had surgery on his knee, particularly with removing some cartilage, would running barefoot be ideal for him?
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Harri said: My dad has had surgery on his knee, particularly with removing some cartilage, would running barefoot be ideal for him?
Probably not, from my experience with my father who ran for years and years about 8 miles a day everyday; after your knee starts falling apart running should be the last thing that you do. IMO I would say to tell him to find a new hobby (cycling, lifting weights, crosstrainer) as hard as that may sound it would probably save him a lot of problems in the future.
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: don_vedo]
#14543478 - 05/31/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago) |
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barefoot would be the WORST idea. That's high impact without any shock absorption found in most shoes. He's better off cycling.
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Maverick said: barefoot would be the WORST idea. That's high impact without any shock absorption found in most shoes. He's better off cycling.
cause you know that is how people naturally run. with big ass shock absorbing shoes. The current running shoe is very very modern. You hit the ground with much more force running in shoes than not, and it isn't even the natural movement.
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Lennyk said: cause you know that is how people naturally run. with big ass shock absorbing shoes. The current running shoe is very very modern. You hit the ground with much more force running in shoes than not, and it isn't even the natural movement.

I would have to agree thy shoes are unnatural and add to the force of hitting the ground, actually read a couple studies on this. I still would recommend not running if the knee is already having trouble.
Some people might be totally against yoga but the creator of brikram yoga was told he woul never walk again because of a weight lifting accident that blew put his knee; brikram created his practice of yoga (hot yoga) and is no up and walking fine. You should see if your dad would be at all interested. Yoga has many many different benefits for the body.
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cause you know that is how people naturally run. with big ass shock absorbing shoes. The current running shoe is very very modern. You hit the ground with much more force running in shoes than not, and it isn't even the natural movement.
Yeah because nature is full of concrete.
How about you go run barefoot everyday around on some concrete sidewalkk for a couple weeks, tell me how your knees feel buddy.
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Maverick said: barefoot would be the WORST idea. That's high impact without any shock absorption found in most shoes. He's better off cycling.
cause you know that is how people naturally run. with big ass shock absorbing shoes. The current running shoe is very very modern. You hit the ground with much more force running in shoes than not, and it isn't even the natural movement.
Yeah because nature is full of concrete.
How about you go run barefoot everyday around on some concrete sidewalkk for a couple weeks, tell me how your knees feel buddy.
Trust me, I have ran barefoot on a wide variety of surfaces. Flat concrete (outside of being hot) is one of the least difficult to run barefoot on. It is far less a problem than you think, and my knees have felt fine. I moved over to grass and gravel areas due to the heat being too much in a hot summer's day. I will tell you this, running barefoot over tree roots, and dense soil with rocks is far more intense on the body-until you adjust.
Concrete to us, is like dense (very dense) soils on trails that in poor countries people travel barefoot on. They do fine. Although I do recommend variation in surfaces to allow the proper development of all muscles since one would normally be exposed to such in the wild.
You clearly don't get the concept of hitting the ground with much less force when you can feel it. Don't just leap out of your shoes and run barefoot. You will be used to the force and you could very well hurt yourself. Ease into it. The impact in which you hit will be proper and not in excess like in normal shoes. Concrete is still not my favorite surface, but it far from what I deem the one most people should be concerned about when it comes to hitting down upon.
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Re: Knee Pain When Running, Any Runners Here? [Re: Lennyk]
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When you already have a knee injury, you shouldn't be running barefoot on concrete. Period. I should apologize and rephrase what I said earlier to that. Injured knee shouldn't run barefoot.
You are right that running barefoot, from birth to adulthood, with a healthy undamaged body, is healthier than running in certain types of shoes.
Though I DO have to say, running on concrete isn't like running on dense soil. I've run around Tahoe barefoot as a child, and even granite feels different than concrete (of course you can't run on the granite slabs here, you have to walk, unless you like cutting your feet up, the granite sand is really dense.)
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