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OfflineNunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14412504 - 05/06/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Mycjunky said:
Sounds like the main problem is that you took them expecting to see visuals. That's not all mushrooms are about you don't take them just to see pretty colors. It's certainly a fun addition to the trip but taking it for that reason is not the right way to go into it. Also euphoria isn't one to expect either, I've felt intense euphoria on shrooms but it's not always consistent, and you have to expect to fight through some negative thoughts, it's what improves you as a person.




This, and you took too much. I'm guessing this was your first trip?

From what you describe it sounds like you started off having an awesome trip. Then all of a sudden you got freaked out by all the THINKING you were doing :rolleyes:.

Newsflash, shrooms make you THINK A LOT... and also it's not all about the visuals...


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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir] * 1
    #14412611 - 05/06/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey this kid is a fucking genius.  He figured out in one trip what took me 100 ayahuasca trips to realize.  He figured in one trip what most shroomerites will never realize.  It's bullshit, the whole fucking thing, the mushroom temples they've built in their heads are balanced on shaky, shitty, stinky, superstitious foundations.

That's right, OP.  It's scrambled fucking eggs, this shit.  Good for you, don't let the fanatical, religious nuts try to suck you back into the delusion.  You poor bastard, you rejected Mormonism and got away, now reject the mythology, spirituality, and magic of these drugs. 

You may be young, but you gots a bright future, kiddo.  Now go smoke some DMT and then we'll talk again so you don't forget.


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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: joemolloy]
    #14412621 - 05/06/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14412628 - 05/06/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah man, that sounds like a rough ride. However, you probably made it worse on yourself. As the cliche goes, you just have to let go. Accept that you are a horrible shitty person for all the bad things that you have done. Vow to learn from your mistakes and put it behind you. I mean no offense by this but the negative thoughts are usually about me, on the comeup. You just have to deal with that shit.

Birth.

Death.

And all that is in between. Accept it. It's about your ego giving up control. Sometimes you have to go through hell to reach heaven.

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14412630 - 05/06/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sorry you had such an unpleasant trip, you learn through trial and error though when is the right time to trip, and when is the wrong time to trip. Shrooms amplify whatever you're feeling. If you're feeling great, you'll almost always have a great trip. If you're using it to escape your problems, you'll keep getting reminded of that and you'll be forced to face those problems so that you can get past them, and in some cases you'll have a great trip afterwards, othertimes you'll be curled up, in the fetal position, spiraling through a tunnel of all the things that are wrong in the world. Doesn't make it any less of a useful trip, just not "fun".

If you want fun, stay in the 1-2 gram range. If you want a mind expanding, ego dissolving, reality melting, etc. experience, experiment with the doses until you find the sweet spot. The rabbit hole goes as deep as you're willing to go. Good vibes on future journeys my brother, I'm sorry your first experience was an unpleasant one. Perhaps it was for the best though.

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: surferdude66066]
    #14412761 - 05/06/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

op gets stuck in some thought loops and tells shroomery not to do shrooms.


what is this?

:awewtf:


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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: k00laid]
    #14413011 - 05/06/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was not in a bad mindset. I was shot into a ridiculous delusion, THEN I refused what the mushrooms were telling me and I felt better.

I am NOT a Mormon, my parents are. I'm not even religious.

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Electri Sheep said:
At this point you basically only have two choices - get into a thought loop wherein you overthink a million different things at once, or the other (better) choice - and that is to simply breath, and Let Go.



Thanks Electri Sheep. Your words were insightful.

The Mr. Mackey comment was actually a joke. But there of course was truth behind it.
I am just now getting over the experience. Maybe I will be ready for shrooms some
other time in the future, but for now, they aren't for me.

The beginning WAS fun. I enjoyed some light visuals. When I drank some orange juice, it was AMAZING! Then the mushrooms diluted me. The worst part WAS when I got stuck in a thought loop. That was probably at my peak.

I will never see mushrooms as spiritual, sorry guys, I broke free of religion 2 years ago. I'm not sure if I could ever do mushrooms again in the future. I still feel that perhaps they aren't for me. I am a very logical person and while I was on mushrooms, all of that disappeared.

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
    #14413034 - 05/06/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yessir said:
I am a very logical person and while I was on mushrooms, all of that disappeared.




You have to let go of whatever type of person you are.
On drugs, your thoughts process is different, thats all.

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
    #14413095 - 05/06/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yessir said:
I don't think I will ever take them again! Seriously yo. I was expecting more visuals and a pleasant euphoric experience. NOT AT ALL WHAT HAPPENED! DON'T DO IT!

I took probably about 4-5g equivalent fresh (40-50g). That might have been the mistake. But if that is what they do at that dose, I don't think I want them. I was expecting an experience where I would explore a visual journey, but no, it was a twisted mental journey of thought. It started with some light visuals, but quickly turned to twisted thoughts of reality. My mind became delusional to thoughts of religion, starting with my parent's religion, Mormonism. I thought I had made a big mistake for not accepting the truth of Joseph Smith and that I was surely going to go to hell. This continued to Catholicism, Buddhism and then universalism. My mind went into thoughts of how nobody understood how good drugs were and how those who have not taken them just are completely vacant of the spiritual reality that we all live in. I thought drugs were a secret portal to the answers of the universe and that everyone else who has yet to try them must be made free. "If only I could openly share this with the world. If only they knew," I thought. "Maybe conspiracies were true. Wait, what? Holy shit am I tripping!"

All this and only 8 minutes had gone by on my video recording of the event! Time felt like it was passing slowly. But the thoughts continued...

Life was a cycle that concluded with godhood and started again at birth. That everything is connected and that life and death is a forever cycle that continues as a single entity. I came to the thought that people were like cells among the giant organism of humanity. This made me feel like I was going to die, not just die, but spiral down to an endless disillusion of existence. Thoughts of infinity frightfully entered my mind.

During these thoughts of humanity and the universe, I was interrupted with the relief of logic. I understood that drugs had no real purpose. They were simply for fun and they played no logical or reasonable roll in society. They don't lead to knowledge or understanding, just a confused twisted misunderstanding of existence. I kept saying to myself in the words of Dave Chappelle, "These are drugs, this is what they do." I continue to tell my self, "This is just a bad trip. This is a bad trip. This what drugs do. These are drugs, this is what they do. These are drugs, this is what they do." Saying this to myself relieved the anxiety and panic I had built up over my twisted thoughts of existence. "Holy shit, Ohh, I was tripping there," I said. "Damn **my name** don't forget your logic!," I reiterated to myself as I tapped between my eyes with the side of my hand. Mushrooms were really messing with my mind! I laid down on the couch for a few seconds sweating but briefly.

I was restless. I just wanted it to end.

So I turned on the T.V. and went on my laptop. I started to type to relieve the anxiety and to help time pass more smoothly. This worked fairly well. But delusion crept up again. I was now a genius. The world had to know how terrible drugs were. How they are simply for the bad. All the legal laws made sense. THIS is why they were in place, to protect people from craziness and insanity. I was going to write a book, then I would be a god. "Now for sure I am going to be famous and get all kinds of vagina," I thought to myself. When I heard myself thinking this, I said, "What the fuck are you talking about?" 

A few hours had passed. Finally, the come down was in process. Reality was coming back as I watched the news. A couple hours later I went to bed in relief that it was over.

Conclusion:
Psychedelics are a source of religion. Specifically Especially, Buddhism and Hinduism. Those who find spirituality in psychedelics are just stupid. They have lost their logic and are delusional. I now know why they are illegal, but I can not comment to that effect. People should be free, but maybe there is some sense in having laws to protect ourselves from... ourselves. Mr. Mackey now sounds wise to me, "Drugs are bad M'kay." I am not sure if I will ever take a "trip" again. If I do, it won't be for some time and it will only be in a low dose. I don't think the fun was worth the bad. The risk of crazy thoughts outweighs any enjoyment you can get out of the experience.




Let me get this straight...

you were brainwashed into Mormonism

you think psychedelics brainwash people into other religions

therefore, mushrooms should be illegal.

What the fuck?

Do me a favor and look up logical fallacy. While you're at it, kick yourself in the ass.

Mormonism is a fucking CROCK

Joseph Smith, your grand poo-ba, bought parts of your sacred mormon cult book from a traveling mummy exposition, you dumb fuck
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Abraham

There are other crocks of shit abound in the book of mormon, but I'm not going to waste any more of my time writing about it.

You've never thought for yourself, so why should I encourage you to start, now?


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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #14413117 - 05/06/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ego vs. Heart.

Next time, try giving something that has the power to destroy that disrespectful mind of yours some respect man. Detest is a very harsh word to say to a little being that simply reflects your intention.

Blessings brother. Hopefully you will approach the medicine with more respect next time and not look for a roller coaster ride.

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: OneU]
    #14413221 - 05/06/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I literally just read your title, "I DETEST MUSHROOMS" and then read "DONT DO IT!"

are you fucking kidding me?

"I DETEST MUSHROOMS"
"I DETEST"
"I"

fuck off.


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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #14413237 - 05/06/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

@CaptainAhab
You are a moron. Are you even capable of reading or understanding English? I think it is obvious why I said, "my parent's religion." It was me making a clear disassociating from what they believe. Also, I readdressed the topic in a couple posts above yours.

The intelligence in these forums is really pushing me further away. People spout off their rhetoric before even haven read what they are responding to.

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
    #14413264 - 05/07/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yessir said:
@CaptainAhab
You are a moron. Are you even capable of reading or understanding English? I think it is obvious why I said, "my parent's religion." It was me making a clear disassociating from what they believe. Also, I readdressed the topic in a couple posts above yours.

The intelligence in these forums is really pushing me further away. People spout off their rhetoric before even haven read what they are responding to.




Typical mormon shit. Here's you being an ass:
"I was expecting more visuals and a pleasant euphoric experience. NOT AT ALL WHAT HAPPENED! DON'T DO IT!"

"Psychedelics are a source of religion. Specifically Especially, Buddhism and Hinduism. Those who find spirituality in psychedelics are just stupid. They have lost their logic and are delusional."

"I now know why [mushrooms] are illegal... People should be free, but maybe there is some sense in having laws to protect ourselves from ourselves."

You connected mushrooms with religion. You have guilt about not being mormon enough. You think that mushrooms should be illegal.

What's unclear about that, to you? Want me to repeat it in caps?

This style of argumentation is typical of religious-types. That's because you live in a black and white world, where things are strictly right and wrong. The problem with that, and with dealing in absolutes, in general, is that you lose sight of the truth because of your adherence to "values" and "belief."

Your posts reek of ignorance.

EDIT:
I grew up with a lot of mormon friends. Most of them went through a rebellious phase where they got involved with drugs and alcohol, renounced Mormonism, got kicked in the ass by reality, then went crying back to big mama (Mormonism).

Friend 1: went on a mission. Came back, decided he hated the religion. Gets involved with drugs and alcohol. Gets depressed, reconverts to Mormonism. Commits suicide.

Friend 2: Grew up in an ultra-Mormon household. Found out that his dad was spying on his sister while she showered, and was jerking off. Renounces mormonism. Gets involved with drugs and alcohol. Drops out of high school. Reconverts to mormonism. Marries 16 year old girl, has 5 kids, lives in a trailer now behind his parents house.

Friend 3: Class valedictorian. Mormon household. Goes off to college, starts drinking. Becomes serious alcoholic. Renounces mormonism. Reconverts to mormonism, marries fat woman and has kids and moves to middle of nowhere.

Friends I'm not going to keep listing: Mormons all getting involved with drugs and alcohol, then having serious life fuckups and starting to use drugs and alcohol. This is always followed by reverting back to mormonism.

So I ask, how far along are you in reconverting?


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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
    #14413267 - 05/07/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You shouldn`t blame the mushies my friend..it was just a bad and delusional trip triggered by latent anxietys and possibly rejections that you had about the religion you were born into. Also the fact that you did not know what to expect. Mushrooms can be a fun carnaval ride,yet the emotional swings and mindfuck is always a thing to consider before taking them.

The dosage was pretty high also for a first-timer,and I assume they were not so potent after all.

Mushrooms wanted to dissolve your ego. Your ego did not want that,and therefore he fought back.

I advice you to try them again sometime,maybe in a different setting,and for sure with a lower dosage. They are not to blame....:mushroom2:

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
    #14413279 - 05/07/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Appreciate that you started with a pretty high dose for a first time.  Most people recommend something like 2g dried, and you jumped in at 4-5.  I can appreciate where you're coming from, and everybody has their own beliefs.  I don't believe there's any spirituality behind psychedelics, but I do believe some good can come from introspection and personal betterment.  I also agree some drugs should be illegal, but for different reasons.  I think a lot of people, like you, aren't prepared for the experience, and will end up with a bad trip and a bad experience, not unlike what happened to you.  I don't mean any disrespect by this;  I'm simply saying you weren't prepared for what happened to you, and I don't think you'd disagree.  I also don't mean to run that whole "people aren't prepared to learn the TRUTH, man" sorta thing either.  I simply mean that the experience can be enjoyable if you can be prepared enough to enjoy it.  What you take from it is your decision, and what you believe you can take from it is determined by your beliefs.

You have to appreciate other people's viewpoints in order to have them appreciate yours.  Also appreciate that the Shroomery is not the place to come on and talk about how nobody should do mushrooms.  I understand where you're coming from, I respect your beliefs on what the experience means, and I respect your decision to stay away from mushrooms.  I just don't like how you want to impress that onto everybody else.  That's why people are getting angry with you.

I think we'd all appreciate it if you were more respectful of others' opinions.  Then we can have a reasonable discussion about it. :thumbup:

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
    #14413280 - 05/07/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, people can be douchebags on here. But it's the internet... get used to it :shrug:

but seriously. You took what we call a "heroic dose" and had intense experience that you were not ready for and then say that you agree that these substances should stay illegal and make all kinds of extreme statements.

Look, if you don't wanna do shrooms then fine. But to assert that I should be locked up in a cage (prison) where my chances of getting raped, beaten, and catching TB or menengitis skyrocket simply because I choose to eat psychedelics is a pretty fucked up assertion.

I'm sorry that you weren't responsible enough to make a smart decision about your dose, but the rest of us are doing just fine. I fucking love mushrooms, I'm sorry you don't. And maybe if they were legal you would have had a completely different context for your experimentation that would have prevented you from making the mistakes that you did.

People are focusing too much on the whole mormon/religion thing. Ignore those idiots.

srsly though, take a step back and really look at why you had a bad time and how extreme your statements are in light of that.


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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14413446 - 05/07/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

.whatever. sucks you had a bad trip OP

Edited by waves (05/07/11 02:15 AM)

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: sandi]
    #14413448 - 05/07/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

OP sorry


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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: k00laid]
    #14413449 - 05/07/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Edited by waves (05/07/11 02:16 AM)

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: waves]
    #14413682 - 05/07/11 03:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

why such hatred towards mormonism? so what if it's incorrect or correct it's just a belief and has absolutely no affect on you get over it.

plus this guy isn't even morman, and look he even admitted that some of his statements were over the top. seems like a pretty intelligent guy to me...

OP thumbs up for staying rational and level headed

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