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Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised?
#14403978 - 05/05/11 07:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0504-dalai-lama-20110504,0,7229481.story
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As the leader of Tibetan Buddhism, the 14th Dalai Lama says he practices compassion to such an extent that he tries to avoid swatting mosquitoes "when my mood is good and there is no danger of malaria," sometimes watching with interest as they swell with his blood.
Yet, in an appearance Tuesday at USC, he appeared to suggest that the United States was justified in killing Osama bin Laden.
As a human being, Bin Laden may have deserved compassion and even forgiveness, the Dalai Lama said in answer to a question about the assassination of the Al Qaeda leader. But, he said, "Forgiveness doesn't mean forget what happened. … If something is serious and it is necessary to take counter-measures, you have to take counter-measures."
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: Cups]
#14404005 - 05/05/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Compassion sometimes means taking action against a member of a group for the good of the whole.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#14404016 - 05/05/11 07:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oweyervishice said: Compassion sometimes means taking action against a member of a group for the good of the whole.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: DieCommie]
#14407209 - 05/05/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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doesnt bother me at all, i approve of the bin laden hit. and that's completely compatible with a practice of compassion (not saying im on the same level as the dalai lama, that man seems to radiate chillness to me)
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: g00ru]
#14407248 - 05/05/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think there is something wrong with shooting an elderly unarmed dialysis patient... In America we used to believe in trials, now we settle for the firing squads and secret prisons.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14407265 - 05/05/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guess I see America as an agent of karma in that situation...ya, it'd be better if we just held a completely non violent policy in any way humanly possible, but as far as the political reality of the world i don't see anything wrong with it, and that's the perspective the dalai lama has to speak from as a global political agent
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14407519 - 05/05/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: I think there is something wrong with shooting an elderly unarmed dialysis patient... In America we used to believe in trials, now we settle for the firing squads and secret prisons. 
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: deff]
#14407599 - 05/05/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bin Laden can take a lifetime to get to the bottom of. He was an agent of the US, there were fake videos of him when he was "hiding" and considered real by the military (yet never answered why he looked completely different) and now, the most wanted man by the FBI/CIA's "body" is captured dead only to show the only "good" it did was boost up Obama's rankings.
Shit's backwards lately. Compassion is being able to unconditionally Love all without the need to help or correct them. This was the definition a man of true medicine gave me and resonated with me. Dali Lama is innocent so he believes the US and thought this was a man who murdered thousands upon thousands and wanted to do more and the only way to stop him was kill him or capture him.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: Cups]
#14410584 - 05/06/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cups said: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0504-dalai-lama-20110504,0,7229481.story
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As the leader of Tibetan Buddhism, the 14th Dalai Lama says he practices compassion to such an extent that he tries to avoid swatting mosquitoes "when my mood is good and there is no danger of malaria," sometimes watching with interest as they swell with his blood.
Yet, in an appearance Tuesday at USC, he appeared to suggest that the United States was justified in killing Osama bin Laden.
As a human being, Bin Laden may have deserved compassion and even forgiveness, the Dalai Lama said in answer to a question about the assassination of the Al Qaeda leader. But, he said, "Forgiveness doesn't mean forget what happened. … If something is serious and it is necessary to take counter-measures, you have to take counter-measures."
From this quote I think the Dalai Lama handled it like a freakin' pro. IMO he has a lot of things to contend with in terms of compassion. The first is, the man he could have shown compassion to is dead and any compassion is best placed on those still living. Second, what provides the greatest degree of compassion? IMO walking the fine political line that the Dalai Lama walked is showing the greatest degree of compassion to the largest amount of people. He has a lot of refugees to care for, and condemning the US would probably not be a compassionate move for the well-being of these people. Also, trying to convince the soldiers that they did something heinous is probably not a positive influence either.
True compassion is not rooted in idealism. I suspect that what the Dalai Lama's ideal world is, is not what exists. To only show compassion when an ideal appears is not very compassionate at all.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: Kickle]
#14410805 - 05/06/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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 Whatever the case.. I agree with cosmo. I dont like what lama said this time. Something smells wrong. A wizard should know better.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: ivander]
#14410840 - 05/06/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't think we really know enough to say either way. I mean, not that 9/11 was justified, but the american people don't exactly know what goes on over seas...
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: ivander]
#14410843 - 05/06/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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not suprised at all. He also said that the USA was an example of working democracy and an example of freedom for the rest of the world.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: deff]
#14410879 - 05/06/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ivander said:
 Whatever the case.. I agree with cosmo. I dont like what lama said this time. Something smells wrong. A wizard should know better.
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deff said:
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c0sm0nautt said: I think there is something wrong with shooting an elderly unarmed dialysis patient... In America we used to believe in trials, now we settle for the firing squads and secret prisons. 

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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
#14410901 - 05/06/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mush 4 Brains said:
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ivander said:
 Whatever the case.. I agree with cosmo. I dont like what lama said this time. Something smells wrong. A wizard should know better.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
#14411113 - 05/06/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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First prove that osama caused 9/11 without a shadow of a doubt.
Next, prove without a shadow of a doubt that he was in fact killed. Last I heard they killed him and dumped his body in the ocean.. and 'took pictures to prove all the conspiracy theorists wrong'. Yeah, because in this day and age with photoshop, pictures are legit stuff bro.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: foliocb]
#14411157 - 05/06/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Prove anything without a shadow of doubt.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14411188 - 05/06/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: I think there is something wrong with shooting an elderly unarmed dialysis patient... In America we used to believe in trials, now we settle for the firing squads and secret prisons. 
Not if that elderly dialysis patient were responsible for thousands of murders...I condone it, and let it be a warning to the rest of em. Although, Im with you on the secret prison deal, fuck that shit, and keeping people for life even if there is no evidence against them, is deplorable at best.
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Re: Dali Lama [Re: foliocb]
#14411294 - 05/06/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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foliocb said: First prove that osama caused 9/11 without a shadow of a doubt.
Next, prove without a shadow of a doubt that he was in fact killed. Last I heard they killed him and dumped his body in the ocean.. and 'took pictures to prove all the conspiracy theorists wrong'. Yeah, because in this day and age with photoshop, pictures are legit stuff bro. 
I dont believe bullshit propaganda. Ben laden had nothing to do with 9/11. he is a cia twat . The pentagon has a war agenda, purely for economical reasons, so that they can steal natural ressources from other countrys. The quest for capturing this boogey man is pure Media fabrication.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
#14411563 - 05/06/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said: I think there is something wrong with shooting an elderly unarmed dialysis patient... In America we used to believe in trials, now we settle for the firing squads and secret prisons. 
Not if that elderly dialysis patient were responsible for thousands of murders...I condone it, and let it be a warning to the rest of em. Although, Im with you on the secret prison deal, fuck that shit, and keeping people for life even if there is no evidence against them, is deplorable at best.
Does that give someone the right to murder George W. Bush for authorizing two wars which are responsible for hundreds of thousands of lives? I don't think so. The world is not that black and white.
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Re: Dali Lama "approves" of Bin Laden hit. You suprised? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
#14411582 - 05/06/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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c0sm0nautt said:
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thelivingfreekshow said:
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c0sm0nautt said: I think there is something wrong with shooting an elderly unarmed dialysis patient... In America we used to believe in trials, now we settle for the firing squads and secret prisons. 
Not if that elderly dialysis patient were responsible for thousands of murders...I condone it, and let it be a warning to the rest of em. Although, Im with you on the secret prison deal, fuck that shit, and keeping people for life even if there is no evidence against them, is deplorable at best.
Does that give someone the right to murder George W. Bush for authorizing two wars which are responsible for hundreds of thousands of lives? I don't think so. The world is not that black and white.
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