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fatppl12

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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
#14450185 - 05/14/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yessir said: I don't think I will ever take them again! Seriously yo. I was expecting more visuals and a pleasant euphoric experience. NOT AT ALL WHAT HAPPENED! DON'T DO IT!
As soon as I saw this first sentence I knew right away why you had a bad trip.
You pass judgement far too quick, whether you would like to believe it or not.
You hold expectation high above your head, thus when things did not live exactly and immediately up to these expectations, your trip broke down.
At times, things will be uncomfortable, it is your ability to adapt and embrace this change as an animal and human being that will pave the way for a more "euphoric" experience.
Not the heady stubbornness that I'm feeling from your side of the internets.
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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
#14450296 - 05/14/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yessir said: I will never see mushrooms as spiritual, sorry guys, I broke free of religion 2 years ago. I'm not sure if I could ever do mushrooms again in the future. I still feel that perhaps they aren't for me. I am a very logical person and while I was on mushrooms, all of that disappeared.
I had a very similar experience when I was 19 and I was too young to understand. Was also raised religious, catholic, and thought I was pretty intelligent. The dose was twenty hits, I spent hours crying curled up in the fetal position. Then after ten or so hours of mindfuck like you would not believe, I let go. It turned out that life is not so bad once you open up your mind and just ride the ride. And tripping is just like that. Clear your mind and just accept the journey.
Your religion and how you were raised has formed a window through which you view the world. What is true and real to you has been all mixed up and chaos was the result of your trip. I suggest trying it again when you are ready.
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Vsnares.Zappa
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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: fatppl12]
#14450606 - 05/14/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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fatppl12 said:
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yessir said: I don't think I will ever take them again! Seriously yo. I was expecting more visuals and a pleasant euphoric experience. NOT AT ALL WHAT HAPPENED! DON'T DO IT!
At times, things will be uncomfortable, it is your ability to adapt and embrace this change as an animal and human being that will pave the way for a more "euphoric" experience.
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River Man
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People who use psychedelics seem to either end up in Buddhist monasteries or preaching doomsday conspiracies... There is no middle ground.
-------------------- (Psycho Active) Drug Experiences: Caffeine, Chocolate, Kava Kava, Alcohol, Cannabis, Psilocybin/Psilocin (Psilocybe Cubensis,) DXM, Salvia Divinorum. Wants to try: DMT, Ayahuasca, LSD, Mescaline, & (possibly) MDMA.
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Vsnares.Zappa
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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: River Man]
#14453147 - 05/14/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dawks
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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: yessir]
#14453178 - 05/14/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yessir said: I was expecting an experience where I would explore a visual journey, but no, it was a twisted mental journey of thought
Haha, I've always thought this is funny. 99% of a psychedelic journey is mental YET the mental alterations can't really be described at all. So when people try to describe what psychedelics are like, people end up getting the impressions it's about "seeing things" and "feeling good".
If you think of life as looking through a lens, taking a psychedelic is like looking through a different lens, that's the best way I can describe it.
I think this should be emphasized to people though, especially at higher doses where "visuals" and "hallucinations" aren't really important to the experience. They're more like icing on the cake which happens to be slightly easier to describe.
Anyway OP sounds young and naive. He'll come around though. Now that he's knows that that experience is available to him he'll seek it out when he's ready.
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LSDilocybin
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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: Dawks]
#14453244 - 05/14/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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too many posts to read all the replies....but just wanted to say, u were just being a pussy to your inner fears. that is all. ur probably a kid. grow the fuck up and educate urself more before u eat a mega dose like 30+ fresh. your mom surely told you NOT to play with fire or u will get burned.
same thing in this case with the shrooms and you didnt listen to mom... blaming the shrooms because u coward down to ur fears like a weak ass is like saying that fire is evil because it destroys things. it also provides warmth in winter or on cooler nights camping and kills bacteria in food so you can eat it without getting sick or catching parasites.
bottom line is, you have to be responsible bro, dont go around spreading this ignorance again, the hell is the matter with you. you know where fuck ur at, right?
-------------------- "We are perfect mirrors in the sun and we brightly shine, we are singing and dancing in perfect time, there is nothing in the world that we can do, to stop the light of love come shining through" --Sally Oldfield
"Vibrate in Love."
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Psilosomniac
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Re: I DETEST mushrooms! [Re: Dawks]
#14460208 - 05/16/11 12:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dawks said: If you think of life as looking through a lens, taking a psychedelic is like looking through a different lens, that's the best way I can describe it.
This is exactly how I describe it, but it never does justice. That, and somebody on here came up with the analogy of explaining it being like explaining a kaleidescope to a blind man.
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Joolz


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The brain processes 40 billion "bits" of information at a time. We consciously live inside 2000 "bits" of that 40 billion. Psychs are like taking the magnifying glass that is 2000 "bits" and moving it over to the side a little.
-------------------- Prohibition didn't work for God; Eve ate the fruit.
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Almond Flour
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Ya ive had a very similar trip man. The thoughts you described are pretty much identical to the thoughts i experianced on that many shrooms. Not to mention I was tripping with my girlfriend who wouldnt shut up about a recent miscarriage.
......You wanna talk about hell never again
-------------------- Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church"
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Almond Flour
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Let me add OP please do not listen to these 16 yr old kidiots who scream...."Not man enough", "Not Holy enough", "Not strong enough" bullshit.
They will learn someday that such an experiance and even intense psychedelic hating fear can happen to them. Ill go as far to say the vast majority in this thread will grow up no wiser, and even more religious then your average, bud light drinking American.
It is partially your fault though. These types of trips have to do with settings. As mentioned when i was a stupid 18 yr old. I decided 4 to 5 grams was a good dose to take locked inside my bedroom with my miscarrying girlfriend. You cant even imagine the utter insantiy and fear that took place as i sat inside my own hell i had created(or maybe you can ). Ive come to realize myself that when the mind can not find solace in the present moment, it creates ways to cope (thus manifesting in the form of verious thoughts) each unable to satisfy the current state of dissatisfaction.....making you move on to the next delusional thought (like trying various blankets hoping one will eventually keep you warm).
Take these drugs for what they are worth. Chemicals that if ued in a correct, non stressful setting having the power for equally tranquil and emotionally comforting thoughts to accompany it. Other cultures who have used these plants to induce such a healing state, go to great lengths to avoid such a trip you described with allot of fasting, praying, and discipline (even avoiding wearing certain colors ) in order to bring about a favorable experiance. Im glad you came out of it ok and managed to keep your feet on the ground. As for myself it took me near 4 years to completley mend the life shattering events that followed that horrible trip. 
To quote a peyote shaman.... "If disrespected, the user will go mad...and destroy himself
Set setting sitter
-------------------- Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church"
Edited by Almond Flour (05/16/11 06:47 AM)
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Ectius
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Wow, guys. Just wow. With the exception of a few outstanding individuals and their considerate responses, most of you sound like a slobbering pack of butthurt junkies.
Personally, OP's post made me laugh a bit. And nod a bit. Because I understand that experience, and I understand the sensibility of wanting to push that experience away.
It isn't the shrooms, OP. It's the individual. As you can see by your wide variety of responses, tripping balls won't morph you into one particular kind of person or another. Which, if anything, may come as some sort of relief.
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