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DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste, Introduce Yourselves!
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I've been noticing there's a few refugees over here from that glorious website since Anon's childish butthurt trollfuckery is disrupting the flow of thangs.
Glad to house you guys here until things cool down. I sincerely hope this situation diffuses with haste.
Welcome, dimethyltryptally dreaming friends. 
Please introduce yourselves!
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission] 1
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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I can't believe anybody would DDOS the Nexus. Fail reaching record levels.
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That's probably why they did it.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: muistrue]
#14410346 - 05/06/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Indeed it is a sad thing:(
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Damkina]
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anon used to have reason, now they're just looking to fuck with everyone. I mean shit, they even have tried to convince north korea to fuck with south korea causing a massive war. That alone should say enough.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: 28064212]
#14410403 - 05/06/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is their insurgen.cc wiki page for the raid still fucked up? God I hope so.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: bbl337] 1
#14410412 - 05/06/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bbl337 said: anon used to have reason, now they're just looking to fuck with everyone. I mean shit, they even have tried to convince north korea to fuck with south korea causing a massive war. That alone should say enough.
Stop trying to glorify the past. Anonymous has never had a reason for being. It's always been a bunch of neckbeard faggot trolls with nothing better to do.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin] 1
#14410422 - 05/06/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anonymous isn't even an organization in any proper sense, it's just a disorganized army of fickle, nerdy trolls.
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Tchan909 said: Anonymous isn't even an organization in any proper sense, it's just a disorganized army of fickle trolls.
Pretty much. I actually knew a guy in High School who was mad into 4chan/Anon, really douchebaggy dude to everyone and just buried himself in alot of retro stuff/memes.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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Tchan909 said: Anonymous isn't even an organization in any proper sense, it's just a disorganized army of fickle trolls.
Pretty much. I actually knew a guy in High School who was mad into 4chan/Anon, really douchebaggy dude to everyone and just buried himself in alot of retro stuff/memes. 
Yep, I find it embarrassing when someone is that into 4chan IRL. There is NOTHING cool about it.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
#14410447 - 05/06/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree with some of the stuff they do though. For example, I consider it the height of propriety for packs of feral Internet goons to bite Scientology in the ass. But the Nexus? Come on guys.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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Mad_Larkin said:
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bbl337 said: anon used to have reason, now they're just looking to fuck with everyone. I mean shit, they even have tried to convince north korea to fuck with south korea causing a massive war. That alone should say enough.
Stop trying to glorify the past. Anonymous has never had a reason for being. It's always been a bunch of neckbeard faggot trolls with nothing better to do.
they fucked with a bunch of companies that fucked with wikileaks?
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: bbl337]
#14410500 - 05/06/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They did it only because they wanted to be a part of something, not because they actually cared about the message.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14410509 - 05/06/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe...
NWO disinformation agents infiltrated Anon and perpetrated the DMT-Nexus raid to get the Nexus offline in order to prevent the awakening of consciousness from happening by destroying the one site which hosts unparalleled knowledge of how to work with this spirit-activating godhead-perceiving technology.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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sunset_mission said: Maybe...
NWO disinformation agents infiltrated Anon and perpetrated the DMT-Nexus raid to get the Nexus offline in order to prevent the awakening of consciousness from happening by destroying the one site which hosts unparalleled knowledge of how to work with this spirit-activating godhead-perceiving technology.

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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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sunset_mission said: Maybe...
NWO disinformation agents infiltrated Anon and perpetrated the DMT-Nexus raid to get the Nexus offline in order to prevent the awakening of consciousness from happening by destroying the one site which hosts unparalleled knowledge of how to work with this spirit-activating godhead-perceiving technology.

as if dmt causes "awakening of consciousness".
DMT doesn't make people spiritual. I've seen tons of grimy people selling & doing it. Some of them even mix crack with it.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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TrustYourSelf said: DMT doesn't make people spiritual. I've seen tons of grimy people selling & doing it. Some of them even mix crack with it.
Drug-elitist.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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TrustYourSelf said:
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sunset_mission said: Maybe...
NWO disinformation agents infiltrated Anon and perpetrated the DMT-Nexus raid to get the Nexus offline in order to prevent the awakening of consciousness from happening by destroying the one site which hosts unparalleled knowledge of how to work with this spirit-activating godhead-perceiving technology.

as if dmt causes "awakening of consciousness".
DMT doesn't make people spiritual. I've seen tons of grimy people selling & doing it. Some of them even mix crack with it.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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sunset_mission said: Maybe...
NWO disinformation agents infiltrated Anon and perpetrated the DMT-Nexus raid to get the Nexus offline in order to prevent the awakening of consciousness from happening by destroying the one site which hosts unparalleled knowledge of how to work with this spirit-activating godhead-perceiving technology.

as if dmt causes "awakening of consciousness".
DMT doesn't make people spiritual. I've seen tons of grimy people selling & doing it. Some of them even mix crack with it.

It doesn't make you spiritual... but you work with it right and thangs will happen. 
Also, please throw these people into meatgrinders.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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Haha wtf you talkin brah
My dimethyltrypta-crack is the bomb diggity!
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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Yeah, DMT is a really cool drug, definitely -- it can feel very profound, and the visions are beautiful and complex.
But in the end, it's just a chemical that alters your perception for a short time, not the key to enlightenment.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14410639 - 05/06/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: They did it only because they wanted to be a part of something, not because they actually cared about the message.

'They' Implies that there is a consensus or motive behind the individual actions of thousands/hundreds of thousands of individuals... Some of the people orchestrating/organizing raids through the chan network are extremely intelligent and have the right idea behind what they're doing - but whose to say the motives of their underlings and helpers?
Its rather incorrect to think of the network of 'anonymous' as one homogeneous group.. its split across dozens if not >100 websites, the oldest of which are almost all in Japanese..
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: NetDiver]
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Samurai Drifter said: Yeah, DMT is a really cool drug, definitely -- it can feel very profound, and the visions are beautiful and complex.
But in the end, it's just a chemical that alters your perception for a short time, not the key to enlightenment. 
Who says "enlightenment" is even possible? It's just a fucking word.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: NetDiver]
#14410648 - 05/06/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said: Who says "enlightenment" is even possible? It's just a fucking word.
Exactly.
DMT is not sacred. Cool, yes. Powerful, yes. But not sacred or holy. Who cares if people mix it with crack? Let them do what they want.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: NetDiver]
#14410688 - 05/06/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: Who says "enlightenment" is even possible? It's just a fucking word.
Exactly.
DMT is not sacred. Cool, yes. Powerful, yes. But not sacred or holy. Who cares if people mix it with crack? Let them do what they want.
How do you define sacred or holy?
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: NetDiver]
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Mad_Larkin said: Who says "enlightenment" is even possible? It's just a fucking word.
Exactly.
DMT is not sacred. Cool, yes. Powerful, yes. But not sacred or holy. Who cares if people mix it with crack? Let them do what they want.
For real. I think it's a travesty and pointless but whatever, do what thou wilt.
As far as "englightenment" goes... ...we do what we do to improve our character, intelligence and sphere of experience and for this DMT is pretty
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reeferaddict69 said: DMT is the key to the spirit world
And a hobo told me PCP bring you to the spirit world.
Who to believe?
True spirituality doesn't come from drug experiences. Sure drug experience could possibly point you in the right direct. But sometimes they just spin you around.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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reeferaddict69 said: DMT is the key to the spirit world
And a hobo told me PCP bring you to the spirit world.
Who to believe?
True spirituality doesn't come from drug experiences. Sure drug experience could possibly point you in the right direct. But sometimes they just spin you around.
You must have never broken through on DMT.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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Again "spirituality" is such a wishy-washy term and "true spirituality" even moreso.
What do those things even mean? If spirituality means connecting with spirits then I'd say DMT is a pretty good candidate.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: NetDiver]
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sunset_mission said: please throw these people into meatgrinders.
ASAP. 
Please smoke more DMT ASAP. 
1337 steps ahead of you.  
Approaching DMT from my viewpoints has not created enlightenment for me or done anything of the sort... it has only reaffirmed my beliefs and assists in my own personal journey.
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But in the end, it's just a chemical that alters your perception for a short time, not the key to enlightenment. 
It just being a chemical doesn't invalidate its potential as being very complicated, etheric technology that we don't really understand. I really want to know more of how to master it and what effects (tangible and intangible) it has.
For sure though, it lifts the veil from our human existence to re-experience a moment of forgotten divinity. It's up to the dreamer to integrate these experiences.

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You must have never broken through on DMT.
I have. It was a lot of visuals. Not much meaning. Very rushing short experience.
I was not enlightened afterwards. I didnt feel like a better person either. I just felt like i had a short trip.
When was the last time you used DMT? Years after doing it an experience that was once "so holy" tends to be forgotten. I can remember mine if i try, but it wasn't particularly enlightening.
Just because you can do drugs doesn't mean you know some little secret.
Also you "must have never done PCP!" Try it you'll see the spirit world brah!
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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Mad_Larkin said: Again "spirituality" is such a wishy-washy term and "true spirituality" even moreso.
What do those things even mean? If spirituality means connecting with spirits then I'd say DMT is a pretty good candidate.
I would not define spirituality as connecting with spirits.
You should try PCP for real. This guy told me he connects with all kinds of spirits. He even said he made it to the 6th dimension! He also said he's god! He claims to know everything!
So try PCP.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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I have to say, I didn't understand the central premise of the concept of God until I blew the top of my head off with an ego-dissolving dose of DMT. Until that point (at age 22) I had never seen anything but a load of hooey in the whole idea, but DMT showed me that it is nothing but another way of describing the universe and our relationship with it as human beings.
Would you call that "spiritual"?
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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Mad_Larkin said: Again "spirituality" is such a wishy-washy term and "true spirituality" even moreso.
What do those things even mean? If spirituality means connecting with spirits then I'd say DMT is a pretty good candidate.
I would not define spirituality as connecting with spirits.
You should try PCP for real. This guy told me he connects with all kinds of spirits. He even said he made it to the 6th dimension! He also said he's god! He claims to know everything!
So try PCP.
Nah, I'm good.
I want to know what spirituality is before I do any more psychedelic voyaging, can you tell me?
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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You must have never broken through on DMT.
I have. It was a lot of visuals. Not much meaning. Very rushing short experience.
I was not enlightened afterwards. I didnt feel like a better person either. I just felt like i had a short trip.
When was the last time you used DMT? Years after doing it an experience that was once "so holy" tends to be forgotten. I can remember mine if i try, but it wasn't particularly enlightening.
Just because you can do drugs doesn't mean you know some little secret.
Also you "must have never done PCP!" Try it you'll see the spirit world brah!
Actually it does mean you know some little secret.. you know what it feels like to be high as shit on DMT... and not that many people know what that feels like
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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You must have never broken through on DMT.
I have. It was a lot of visuals. Not much meaning. Very rushing short experience.
I was not enlightened afterwards. I didnt feel like a better person either. I just felt like i had a short trip.
When was the last time you used DMT? Years after doing it an experience that was once "so holy" tends to be forgotten. I can remember mine if i try, but it wasn't particularly enlightening.
Just because you can do drugs doesn't mean you know some little secret.
Also you "must have never done PCP!" Try it you'll see the spirit world brah!
read dmt: the spirit molecule yo. dmt is way different than PCP.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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We are souls having a human experience, we are not our bodies, our minds, our egos, the clothes we wear, the music we listen to, our beliefs, etc. I'm sure someone can give you a much better explanation of spirituality, I'm spiritual but I suck at explaining shit
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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There really isn't an all encompassing definition
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: twighead]
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I think spirituality can be well-described as an attempt to merge the consciousness with the larger forces of the universe, to dissolve erroneous perceptions of "difference" between the self and the environment.
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That's a pretty good one - and about as specific as you can get without infringing on various beliefs.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: twighead]
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twighead said: There really isn't an all encompassing definition 
This.
For me spirituality is the unity of all consciousness, the fact that the duality is an illusion and that we're all the same pulsating, undulating beast. Furthermore a representation of something mysterious and unexplainable about the universe, that appears to be beyond reason, and the feeling that life runs far deeper than it appears, and that everything is deeply alive.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: propensity]
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Mad_Larkin said: I want to know what spirituality is before I do any more psychedelic voyaging, can you tell me?
We are souls having a human experience, we are not our bodies, our minds, our egos, the clothes we wear, the music we listen to, our beliefs, etc. I'm sure someone can give you a much better explanation of spirituality, I'm spiritual but I suck at explaining shit 

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Tchan909 said: I think spirituality can be well-described as an attempt to merge the consciousness with the larger forces of the universe, to dissolve erroneous perceptions of "difference" between the self and the environment.
That's a pretty cool definition but I wanna know TrustYourSelf's PCP enduced revelations about spirituality.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: propensity]
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twighead said: There really isn't an all encompassing definition 
This.
For me spirituality is the unity of all consciousness, the fact that the duality is an illusion and that we're all the same pulsating, undulating beast. Furthermore a representation of something mysterious and unexplainable about the universe, that appears to be beyond reason, and the feeling that life runs far deeper than it appears, and that everything is deeply alive.
The union of human and divine consciousness weaving the fabric of space and time in which the self and its surroundings are embedded.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
#14410816 - 05/06/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's very easy to hear "all equals one" in a Zoidberg voice
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That's a pretty cool definition but I wanna know TrustYourSelf's PCP enduced revelations about spirituality.
I haven't taken PCP, i was trying to prove a point.
Just because someone smokes dmt and says they're connecting with spirits doesn't make it true.
People often think the experience is convincing them of something divine.
But are you not convincing yourself the experience is valid?
Before people take DMT they read all of these experiences what to expect. They are filling their minds with expectations. They often see these expectations take form during the experience. They go in looking for the "godhead" and then they "find the godhead".
Not too mention many DMT experiences are just moving colors. Patterns. Devoid of anything spiritual.
Its possible to have what some consider a "spiritual experience" on DMT, but don't come down and think "I'm so special i found the godhead, i know everything". So many people build their egos so high after doing DMT. They think they found the secret & know it all.
I'm not sure what/how i'd explain the experience. But it isn't freebase enlightenment thats for damn sure.
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I have. Its largely just speculation. Not too impressive.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
#14410965 - 05/06/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You still haven't answered what "spirituality" and "enlightenment" are.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14410988 - 05/06/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: You still haven't answered what "spirituality" and "enlightenment" are.
Enlightenment is a frame of reference; a state of consciousness:
Enlightenment is a consummative experience of predestination and beyond-chance coincidence that can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours and it changes a person's perspective forever (often obliging an individual to devote the rest of their life to the dissemination of their newfound knowledge). The climax of the experience involves a full blown epiphany of the Oneness of the Universe: time ends, Eternity is effectively realized, and subsequently, death is experienced as a transition of being; not the end of our existence, effectively eliminating any fear of dying. The person thus raptured experiences the death of his ego; his merely limited sense of self is totally dissolved, enabling him to comprehend for the first time the Ground of All Being; the Eternal Universe of which he understands that he is. Essentially, the individual's microcosmic, Earthly frame of reference slowly erodes leaving behind only a macrocosmic, Universal frame of reference which is entirely ineffable. All that was previously unconscious is revealed to consciousness: it is as if the entire mystery of life dissolves before ones eyes, leaving one to comprehensively feel and understand the predestined purpose and synchronistic order behind all things and events. The concept of God presents itself as a divine totality symbol of Oneness and paradoxically, reciprocity (good/evil, positive/negative etc). Life is seen to be an eternal search for love and understanding, despite all evil and unconsciousness that befalls us; it is all understood to be necessary for a purpose beyond our merely self-conscious awareness. The realization dawns upon consciousness that, "I am God." (This is precisely why Christ equated Himself with the Father, because He was acutely aware that He is the Father; He is God, of which we all are - which, by the way, was His principle teaching.)
"When you make the two one, and when you make the inner as the outer and the outer as the inner and the above as the below ...then shall you enter [the Kingdom]....
I am the Light that is above them all, I am the All, the All came forth from Me and the All attained to Me. Cleave a [piece of] wood, I am there; lift up the stone and you will find Me there." Jesus, Gospel of Thomas
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14410994 - 05/06/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: You still haven't answered what "spirituality" and "enlightenment" are.
Won't wast my time trying to explain enlightenment with words...
How can we describe any experience? I can tell you what an orange tastes like, but you'll never understand how it tastes until you take a bite.
Spirituality? I guess i could define it as gaining an awareness of what is really going on.
Very vague i know.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
#14411005 - 05/06/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Retardedly vague in fact.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14411013 - 05/06/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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My definition kicks ass, which is why nobody is drawing attention to it to bitch about it
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14411037 - 05/06/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: Retardedly vague in fact.
The conscious becoming aware of the unconscious? Still not very precise.
You can't have a very precise definition of spirituality. Its a broad term because it encompasses many experiences.
If you like smoking DMT, smoke dmt. If you like shooting dope, shoot dope.
I'm not telling people what they should do. I'm just saying DMT doesn't necessary help make people more spiritual or realize anything intelligible.
I've seen plenty of dirty people who make DMT to sell DMT, they hype DMT up to sell it to other people. Its a drug you can smoke. You get visuals. I get it.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: propensity]
#14411045 - 05/06/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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twighead said: There really isn't an all encompassing definition 
This.
For me spirituality is the unity of all consciousness, the fact that the duality is an illusion and that we're all the same pulsating, undulating beast. Furthermore a representation of something mysterious and unexplainable about the universe, that appears to be beyond reason, and the feeling that life runs far deeper than it appears, and that everything is deeply alive.
Damn you summed that up perfectly. It encompasses everything I've gotten from life, and every deep spiritual trip I've had.
Also, I lurked the shit out of the nexus.. do I count?
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
#14411051 - 05/06/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, if spirituality is getting a grip on "what is really going on" then nothing we can ever say or do will bring us closer to spiritual enlightenment.
Humans don't know shit.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14411065 - 05/06/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: Well, if spirituality is getting a grip on "what is really going on" then nothing we can ever say or do will bring us closer to spiritual enlightenment.
Humans don't know shit. 
You're right, nothing we say bring us closer. Also it is not necessarily about doing.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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You're right, nothing we say bring us closer. Also it is not necessarily about doing.
Okay, well that's cleared everything up for those of us who weren't sure what spirituality was.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#14411217 - 05/06/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're right, nothing we say bring us closer. Also it is not necessarily about doing.
Okay, well that's cleared everything up for those of us who weren't sure what spirituality was.
I was referring more to enlightenment in that post. Not necessarily spirituality.
A spiritual person isn't necessarily enlightened.
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Tchan909 said: I can't believe anybody would DDOS the Nexus. Fail reaching record levels.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
#14411235 - 05/06/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're right, nothing we say bring us closer. Also it is not necessarily about doing.
Okay, well that's cleared everything up for those of us who weren't sure what spirituality was.
I was referring more to enlightenment in that post. Not necessarily spirituality.
A spiritual person isn't necessarily enlightened.
I'm glad you're handing down these incredible revelations to us mere mortals.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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I'm glad you're handing down these incredible revelations to us mere mortals.
Lol. I'm not claiming i know anything that anyone else doesn't already know. I state my opinions, but no one has to take them as facts.
I think all you need for true spirituality is to look inwards. Nothing else really.
In other words, Trust Your Self
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
#14411534 - 05/06/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I know a few magical tricks other people don't know.
I didn't learn them though, I grew into them like a pair of big shoes.
How can you be proud when you had no involvement in their fruition?
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: The Whale]
#14412052 - 05/06/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You need to be spiritually mature to break through and see the realities DMT has to show. Otherwise it's just pretty colors and shit.
Show a 3 year old boy a photo of a naked beautiful woman. Show that same photo to a 20 year old dude. They're not seeing the same. You need to be ready to be able to go all the way through the mandala.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: DMTripper]
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DMTripper said: You need to be spiritually mature to break through and see the realities DMT has to show. Otherwise it's just pretty colors and shit.
Show a 3 year old boy a photo of a naked beautiful woman. Show that same photo to a 20 year old dude. They're not seeing the same. You need to be ready to be able to go all the way through the mandala.
I couldn't agree more
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: DMTripper]
#14412211 - 05/06/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DMTripper said: You need to be spiritually mature to break through and see the realities DMT has to show. Otherwise it's just pretty colors and shit.
Show a 3 year old boy a photo of a naked beautiful woman. Show that same photo to a 20 year old dude. They're not seeing the same. You need to be ready to be able to go all the way through the mandala.
Ya this kid tried PCP and didn't find God. So the homeless guy was like, "you're not spiritually mature enough to come to realization through abusing freebase drugs, you noob". So then he packs up another bowl of crack and dmt on top of weed and then he tells us how hes been to hyperspace and how he is the godhead.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: TrustYourSelf]
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DMTripper said: You need to be spiritually mature to break through and see the realities DMT has to show. Otherwise it's just pretty colors and shit.
Show a 3 year old boy a photo of a naked beautiful woman. Show that same photo to a 20 year old dude. They're not seeing the same. You need to be ready to be able to go all the way through the mandala.
Ya this kid tried PCP and didn't find God. So the homeless guy was like, "you're not spiritually mature enough to come to realization through abusing freebase drugs, you noob". So then he packs up another bowl of crack and dmt on top of weed and then he tells us how hes been to hyperspace and how he is the godhead.
I'm beginning to wonder if this story is true. 
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Mad_Larkin said: You still haven't answered what "spirituality" and "enlightenment" are.
Enlightenment is a frame of reference; a state of consciousness:
Enlightenment is a consummative experience of predestination and beyond-chance coincidence that can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours and it changes a person's perspective forever (often obliging an individual to devote the rest of their life to the dissemination of their newfound knowledge). The climax of the experience involves a full blown epiphany of the Oneness of the Universe: time ends, Eternity is effectively realized, and subsequently, death is experienced as a transition of being; not the end of our existence, effectively eliminating any fear of dying. The person thus raptured experiences the death of his ego; his merely limited sense of self is totally dissolved, enabling him to comprehend for the first time the Ground of All Being; the Eternal Universe of which he understands that he is. Essentially, the individual's microcosmic, Earthly frame of reference slowly erodes leaving behind only a macrocosmic, Universal frame of reference which is entirely ineffable. All that was previously unconscious is revealed to consciousness: it is as if the entire mystery of life dissolves before ones eyes, leaving one to comprehensively feel and understand the predestined purpose and synchronistic order behind all things and events. The concept of God presents itself as a divine totality symbol of Oneness and paradoxically, reciprocity (good/evil, positive/negative etc). Life is seen to be an eternal search for love and understanding, despite all evil and unconsciousness that befalls us; it is all understood to be necessary for a purpose beyond our merely self-conscious awareness. The realization dawns upon consciousness that, "I am God." (This is precisely why Christ equated Himself with the Father, because He was acutely aware that He is the Father; He is God, of which we all are - which, by the way, was His principle teaching.)
"When you make the two one, and when you make the inner as the outer and the outer as the inner and the above as the below ...then shall you enter [the Kingdom]....
I am the Light that is above them all, I am the All, the All came forth from Me and the All attained to Me. Cleave a [piece of] wood, I am there; lift up the stone and you will find Me there." Jesus, Gospel of Thomas
"Man discovers that he is nothing else than evolution become conscious of itself, to borrow Julian Huxley's striking expression. It seems to me that our modern minds (because and inasmuch as they are modern) will never find rest until they settle down to this view. On this summit and on this summit alone are repose and illumination waiting for us." Teilhard de Chardin, 'The Phenomenon of Man' (italics mine)
"Zarathustra once defines, quite strictly, his task – its mine too – and there is no mistaking his meaning: he says Yes to the point of justifying, of redeeming even all of the past. "I walk among men as among the fragments of the future – that future which I envisage. And this is all my creating and striving, that I create and carry together into One what is fragment and riddle and dreadful accident. And how could I bear to be a man if man were not also a creator and guesser of riddles and redeemer of accidents? To redeem those who lived in the past and to turn every 'it was; into a 'thus I willed it' – that alone I should call redemption."" Nietzsche, Ecce Homo (italics mine)
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This is heavily ironic that I made a thread welcoming Nexus refugees and instead it blows up into a "DMT is godhead perception spiritual technology vs. DMT is just pretty colors with no inherent meaning dr00gz & spirituality/enlightenment is hogwash vs. spirituality/enlightenment is essential to advancing your consciousness to a wonderful state of realizing the Oneness of infinity" debate.
YA'LL SCARED THEM OFF
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: sunset_mission]
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Lol and I thought it was just going to be a anon hate thread again.
Never know what will happen to a thread around here.
I think the time is coming... need to find some root and a light bulb.
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Re: DMT-Nexus Refugees: Welcome, Namaste [Re: DMTripper]
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