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OfflineOrganic_Spirit
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Need Opinions ? MHRB - Extraction, 3 suppliers, ""TROUBLESHOOT"" * 1
    #14410047 - 05/06/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hello  nice to be here, glad to see you all , been a long time. vet

Anyways

swim am in a pile of dung because swim had bought  mhrb  in the past from one main supplier and then stopped because couldnt get extractions to work anymore.

It was like a curse . Same tek's same basic chemistry , yet no results.

swim had talked to swim's supplier in the past asking him to send swim something else , and have goten brazillian and mexican to  experiment on . Both with little to no results.

swim could not figure out what was the problem , swim was pulling average 1% yeild
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swim had given up and swim's journeys had come to a halt , swim is on the stepping stone and swim is  looking in the distance for the answer...
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After a good year swim decided to give it another go , Buying supplies and mhrb from again two more different suppliers , one from ebay and another from the sponsor here. and on other sites.
swwim only realized when swim had goten the package from the sponsored supplier was the old one that swim used to deal with , swim was surprised that he was not only still in buisness but had increased it.
swim had nothing to loose, swim had nice quality powder that was even more pink from the ebay spplier and looked better quality.

swim had started to do my extractions last night when swim started doing his pulls  noticed  FAIL ... lol

swim is pretty experienced in such chemistry , lol
swim's recrystalizations and yields are great.
swim normally have a cloudy  solvent pull without evap.

Either way swim had one two seperate extractions with the two seperate mhrb , swim couldnt figure out what was going on , and swim still can not .

That is why i have come here , asking if anyone has any opinions or suggestions.  I am trying to be smart an find answers to different  wierd endevors that people have.

Personally swim have come to a wierd conclusion.
- THE GOVERNMENT HAS POLLUTED SWIM'S LYE OR  NAPTHA , lol
swim is buying  lye from essential depot , when everything was going good swim had goten the bottles with black caps , now they have white, probably has nothing to do with it , ph goes still to 14 but am thinking something maybe binds the spice or reacts with it...
gov shit ...

or swims naptha from sunnyside ( i think thats where its from) , is tampered or diluted or something , but  makes no sence...


swim hasent tried any other etractions besides a stb on thi syears project , but it should not matter.


swim is thinking of going down the rabbithole and buying some caapi and diving in the juice see how active my bark is , but atm sim has 4 diff mhrb  that he can not pull any alkloids.


Swim does basic stuff ,  1 gallon jug + water + lye = base to 14 (add extra (double in some cases)) add 100-300g mhrb , + small naptha pulls after few hours - day's.


Solvents , try other tek , drink the holy grail...;..... ??????


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OfflineOrganic_Spirit
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Re: Need Opinions ? MHRB - Extraction, 3 suppliers, ""TROUBLESHOOT"" [Re: Organic_Spirit]
    #14412128 - 05/06/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

...Bump,...

Where do you buy your naptha and lye ?

What extraction process do you use ?

Anyone have similar issues in past or present?

....  ?


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OfflineAedan
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Re: Need Opinions ? MHRB - Extraction, 3 suppliers, ""TROUBLESHOOT"" [Re: Organic_Spirit]
    #14412440 - 05/06/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I will attempt to point you in the right direction, although its hard to know exactly whats wrong based on your description.

First of all, stop using lye. Lye is caustic and nasty and can be replaced with the more widely available and food safe hydrated lime, which can be purchased at most nurseries or hardware stores. An a/b extraction with vinegar and hydrated lime will also yield much more pure product. The nexus is down currently but if you get a chance search q21q21s tek.

(a tip for increasing yield)- Add elemental zinc to the mix while its in the acid phase. Zinc is a reducing agent that converts the naturally occurring dmt oxide to dmt. This is important because dmt oxide does not dissolve in naphtha. SWIM has used this method with exceptional results and nearly doubled his yield.

For naphtha, it can be purchased at ace hardware under the name VM&P Naphtha.

As for your current stb technique, are you freeze precipitating the naphtha or evaporating it? Trying one or the other may produce different results. You can also use different solvents such as toluene, xylene, heptane, etc., Although they cannot be freeze precipitated and will yield jungle dmt.


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