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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: FleshCap]
    #14375449 - 04/29/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with you guys except for, since when is 5g a large dose?


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #14377475 - 04/30/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mushrooms, cactus, etc open your mind's abilities to experience an entire lifetime and universe based upon just one idea.
You can take a spiritual idea (unconditional love for example) and build a psychological connection to it before taking a journey.
You can do this by talking about it, writing about it, drawing it, playing a song either one someone else made or making your own songs up, imagining how you can have more of it in your heart, etc.
The longer and more intense the connection BEFORE tripping, the more likely it is that you will in some form experience it during your trip.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: Sorealism]
    #14377994 - 04/30/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Can't think of a more spiritual trip than on a beautiful day, out on a nice hike surrounded by nature, totally emersed in all of its glory and magnificence...You'll definitely come out of that trip a lot more spiritual, and respectful of the beauty of life! Have fun my friend!




Agreed.

I haven't written a full trip report this yet, but I really should..

The more spiritual trip I ever had was one wherein I ate about 3g, then waded up a stream to a waterfall, and then swam under the waterfall. Even without the shrooms it would have been an extremely powerful experience, but with them it was incredible.

But anyways, yeah - I advocate tripping in nature.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #14379012 - 04/30/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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mr_minds_eye said:
I agree with you guys except for, since when is 5g a large dose?



15g, now there's a time


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14379527 - 04/30/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm just gonna repost what I said in an earlier thread on basically the same topic.

Here's my basic outline of what I do when I'm delving into a "serious" psychedelic experience:

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    [TL,DR: Clean your house, clean your body, clean your mind, do rituals, dose high]

    1. Set aside a time and space where you can trip alone with NO distractions whatsoever. Plan for this ahead of time, and do whatever kinds of purifications/abstentions you feel are necessary (stop smoking/drinking/masturbating/coffee/meat/dairy/etc. whatever is important for you)

    2. The day of. Wake up early and eat a light, healthy breakfast, fruits and nuts or whatev, and then eat nothing else for the rest of the day but water/juice and maybe vitamins. Don't get high or intoxicated all day.

    3. Clean the fuck out of your space. Imagine you were going to have God visit your house. How would you want it to look and smell? Ya dig? Prepare your space and make it appropriate for something sacred.

    4. Make preparations for whatever rituals you choose. I personally have a small alter with candles, incense, Buddha statue, bells, crystals, etc. I get all the blankets and pillows in the house and make a comfortable "launch pad" in front of this alter for me to trip out on.

    5. Bathe. Make your body clean. Shave if that is something that makes you feel clean. Hell, if you really want to go all out you can even shave your head. Do yoga, stretch, and make sure your body feels good.

    6. Set your intentions. Once the house is clean, and my body is clean, I begin meditation and prayer/chanting before I dose. This gets me into a sacred mindspace before the trip even begins. Also, this can help purge your mind of a lot of anxieties and worries so that they don't come up unexpected while you're tripping. Make your mind clean. You can do this through rituals also, like smudging with sage, or writing down your intentions and binding them with a string and putting them on your alter, or writing down your worries and then burning them.

    7. Dose. Dose a LOT. Take at least 5g. Get into some comfortable clothes. Turn off the lights completely or just have a candle burning. Be in silence, be in darkness.

    8. Continue meditating/chanting, or doing whatever rituals you like until the trip kicks in. I like to chant mantras and count mala beads.

    9. Trip balls. Keep the lights off. Keep it silent. If shit gets real heavy you can have some mellow music on standby. It should be something awe inspiring. Vomiting can be a good spiritual purge.

    10. Come down. Eat something hardy and nutritious like some spaghetti and vegetables. Your body will be craving food.

    11. Integrate. Do something chill that brings you back into reality but still respects the profound experience you had. Draw, make music, watch a trippy/profound video, write down any realizations, etc. Smoke some herb. Integration may extend into the next day if your experience was that intense. Make sure your next day is free and you won't be bothered if you need it to yourself.




    That's basically how I do it, without the details of my actual rituals. It's kind of free form really. Just imagine what you think it would take to do something sacred and create it. Your intention is the most important thing, and the rituals just help to direct and focus that intention.



I feel like the most important element of this method is the intense focusing of intention by preparing your environment. Even though you are going to be tripping in silent darkness, you want to spend all day cleaning your environment and body to emphasize how serious you are taking the experience. Having the "launch pad" of blankets and pillows in front of an alter creates the center point for all of this focus, and creates a space where you can stay the entire trip and be comfortable, rather than getting restless and feeling like you need to wander around and distract yourself.

The other really important element of all this is staying sober all day, and even the day before. Dulling your senses with other drugs/alcohol makes for a dulled trip. You want your mind to be fresh and awake and totally ready to take on the trip.




What are your techniques. An anyone else who wants to share should.


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14379791 - 04/30/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what do you mean? Like what kinds of rituals and mantras do I do?

I'll do some super basic yoga. Basically more like intuitive stretching and some sun salutations. Super basic stuff.

Before I even dose, after everything is clean, I'll meditate. Specifically satipatthana, mindfulness of breath. The idea is to sharpen my attention so that I am able to control my mind easier when I'm actually in the thick of the trip. Also, to allow my mind to settle down, so that I don't carry a lot of extraneous bullshit into the trip from the beginning.

I'll usually make a tea: Bring water to a rolling boil, then turn off heat. Throw in powdered shrooms and loose leaf tea and fresh ginger. Let steep for up to an hour. Add a little honey too. Strain out and put in my favorite mug (Has Salvador Dali painting on it, The Hallucinogenic Toreador).

I'll bring the tea up to my trip space, in front of my alter which has buddha images, crystals, ayahuasca vines, tingsha bells, etc. Every object on the alter has it's own symbolic significance and is arranged in a meaningful way. Your alter may vary.

I'll cleanse the space. This is done with a combination of burning sage and circumambulating the room with it. After the sage I'll use my tingsha bells and do the same thing. Also I might make a ring of salt around the room. While I do this I am still performing mindfulness meditation with every step. Keeping the mind focused on the ritual, and on the intention of every movement is really important. I don't have a set number of times that I do it, but it may go on for some time until I feel satisfied.

Once I decide to drink the tea I turn all the lights off except maybe a candle and I grab my mala beads which were given to me by a dear friend. There are 107 beads on the mala, and I say a mantra for each bead. I'll do one set of "AUM". Then another set of "OM MANI PADME HUM". Then another set of "Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sama sambudhasa". Then "Om tare tu tare ture mama ayure punya gnana pushtin kuru svaha". By this time I've said around three or four hundred mantras and my shrooms are kicking in. I'll continue this until the trip overwhelms me and I fall backwards onto my launch pad of blankets and pillows and the trip begins.

If you've ever tried to achieve total darkness in your bedroom you've realized how hard it is. Light just creeps in from everywhere, and after your eyes adjust you can still see everything. So I always use a blindfold to ensure that all outside visual stimuli is cut off.

Silence is another thing that's really hard to achieve, and it's also very hard to tolerate for very long. Honestly I will often choose to have music playing rather than silence (ie. trying to be silent but listening to the hum of traffic and neighbors, etc instead). I always play instrumental, ambient kind of stuff. I prefer to play music that I haven't ever heard before, or at least stuff that I haven't played out, because when I am really familiar with a song I'll know every note and rhythm, and so I begin to get distracted by me expectations of what the song is going to do. I think what's amazing about the psychedelic experience is the novelty of every trip, and so I try to play new and novel music.


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14384423 - 05/01/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So I've tripped quite a few times now on shrooms,salvia and DXM. (which I don't quote consider a trip. More of a head drunk.) and I'm curious as to how I'd go about making my trips more spiritual or divine. Anything helps. Thanx guyss




Interesting suggestions. 

For me a trip turns spiritual when I attempt to contact the spirit realm.  I only do that if seeking some sort of answer to a vexing problem or a healing, for myself or others. And for that a high dose is almost always required.

But every trip though starts with a ritual saying before ingesting the tea, I center my mind and recite it mindfully.  I'd share it...but it doesn't feel right to just post it here...

I'll repeat this saying sometimes during the trip if I'm feeling way off base or whatever, it immediately takes me back towards the light.  Keeps me out of trouble. :lol:

:peace:PS


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #14408598 - 05/06/11 04:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So I've tripped quite a few times now on shrooms,salvia and DXM. (which I don't quote consider a trip. More of a head drunk.) and I'm curious as to how I'd go about making my trips more spiritual or divine. Anything helps. Thanx guyss




Interesting suggestions. 

For me a trip turns spiritual when I attempt to contact the spirit realm.  I only do that if seeking some sort of answer to a vexing problem or a healing, for myself or others. And for that a high dose is almost always required.

But every trip though starts with a ritual saying before ingesting the tea, I center my mind and recite it mindfully.  I'd share it...but it doesn't feel right to just post it here...

I'll repeat this saying sometimes during the trip if I'm feeling way off base or whatever, it immediately takes me back towards the light.  Keeps me out of trouble. :lol:

:peace:PS



Please do share


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #14409423 - 05/06/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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mr_minds_eye said:
I agree with you guys except for, since when is 5g a large dose?



15g, now there's a time




you realize that most people only take like 2g at a time right? For a lot of people even 3.5g is a daunting task...


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14410836 - 05/06/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Please do share




I would like to but I don't think it's appropriate.  What works for me won't necessarily work for you.

But basically I acknowledge the power of the mushroom spirits, welcome them into my heart, entreat them to bring me to the "still point", the center of all things, and then return me safely.  It does work. :grin:

If you're familiar with shamanic work, it's like the contents of your tool kit. You collect objects that have a spiritual resonance for you but you can't show them to anybody outside of a healing ceremony or they lose their power.  I have a particular power stone that I found many years ago on a beach.  It accompanies me on every trip and is an object of focus.  This picture was made using some of the patterns on that rock:



I have to sign off here as I'm rapdily coming up on tea from 180 gms fresh wild texans. :awesomenod::awecid::awesomenod:

:peace:PS

Edited by PrimalSoup (05/06/11 03:21 PM)

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #14410854 - 05/06/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Please do share




I would like to but I don't think it's appropriate.  What works for me won't necessarily work for you.

If you're familiar with shamanic work, it's like the contents of your tool kit. You collect objects that have a spiritual resonance for you but you can't show them to anybody outside of a healing ceremony or they lose their power.  I have a particular power stone that I found many years ago on a beach.  It accompanies me on every trip and is an object of focus.  This picture was made using some of the patterns on that rock:



I have to sign off here.:awesomenod::awecid::awesomenod:

:peace:PS




The book I quoted on the first page goes into what Primal is talking
about. It is well worth the money and goes into great detail about
everything you are asking about...Im surprised everyone brushed
over it without a second thought.

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