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Offlinebazookee
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Lots of Questions About Growing
    #14408294 - 05/06/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I had recently had the urge to grow mushrooms, so me and my friend are going to do it. We were looking at videos on youtube, reading about it on sites, and talking to other people about it.

We have a general idea of what to do, and what to get. I just have a few questions about growing.

1. Can a regular needle be used as a syringe?

2. Is there anyway to get spores from shrooms?( bought off a dealer)

3. Instead of brown rice flour and vermiculite, can anything else be used as a substrate that can easily be obtained?

4. Does a pressure cooker need to be used, and if yes, what is it for?

5. When cakes are ready, what is the best stuff to grown them on, instead of perlite.

6. What is the best temperature (celsius) to grow the shrooms in?

7. What is the best way to obtain spores?

8. How long does it take for the mushrooms to fully grow out of the cakes?

9. After cakes are ready, are they needed to be "dunked and rolled" or can they already be put for growing?

It would help alot if all of these questions can be answered.
Thank you very much!! :laugh:


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Re: Lots of Questions About Growing [Re: bazookee]
    #14408324 - 05/06/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1.  yes as long as they are big enough and pc able
2. yes you can create culture from dried shrooms using agar..  mix the agar a bit wet and use inner stem material
3. those are easy to obtain!  ground up brown rice and a 4$ bag of verm at lowes
4. yes for grains but you can do pf cakes without, its to sterilize the substrate so that bacteria and germs dont grow before the mycelium
5. make a PMP OR SGFC use the search engine
6. idk..  75F is like average room temp
7. buy them or trade with a member here..
8. less than 2 months if you do it right
9. if you dunk then roll after the first flush in verm i understand you get a better 2nd flush i guess you could dunk before the first if you wanted :thumbup:
GOOD LUCK!  USE THE SEARCH ENGINE FRIEND!:thumbup:


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Re: Lots of Questions About Growing [Re: wow]
    #14408344 - 05/06/11 01:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, and do you know how much grams of mushrooms can grow from a cake? (average size)


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Re: Lots of Questions About Growing [Re: bazookee]
    #14408363 - 05/06/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1. Can a regular needle be used as a syringe?
Yes.

2. Is there anyway to get spores from shrooms?( bought off a dealer)
Don't waste your time. Like wow said you can make a cultyre but that is out of your league right now. You need some fresh spores. Hit up someone on here for some spores. I have a bunch i might be able to hook you up.

3. Instead of brown rice flour and vermiculite, can anything else be used as a substrate that can easily be obtained?
Yes. Grain spawn. But again, if you dont have a pressure cooker don't bother. Brown rice flower cakes are the only possible method without  a pressure cooker.

4. Does a pressure cooker need to be used, and if yes, what is it for?
Used to sterilize grain. Not necessary while doing brown rice cakes. you can sterilize with boiling water and steam.

5. When cakes are ready, what is the best stuff to grown them on, instead of perlite.
you dont grow on perlite. Perlite is used to keep humidity up. When fruiting yuou need 100% humidity. You can use geolite, or a plastic greenhouse with a humidifier. Remember you need 100% humidity while providing fresh air exchange.

6. What is the best temperature (celsius) to grow the shrooms in?
Room temperature. ~72-78.

7. What is the best way to obtain spores?
Here, or off your shrooms.

8. How long does it take for the mushrooms to fully grow out of the cakes?
4-6 weeks to colonize i would say, 3-4 more while fruiting.

9. After cakes are ready, are they needed to be "dunked and rolled" or can they already be put for growing?
dunk and roll. dont be lazy.. mush is 90% water, the more the better.


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Re: Lots of Questions About Growing [Re: bazookee]
    #14408380 - 05/06/11 01:29 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

seems like the norm is about 3-8 grams dry for a pint cake..  i highly reccomend checking thrift or second hand stores for a pc ya might get lucky!  if your a "do-er"  its not that hard to do wbs and spawn to bulk...  you can get a new cheapy PC for about 60$US around here..  its really a cheap hobby to get into..  the basic outline of bulk is to use grain (birdseed or rye)(search docs wbs tek) and sterilize and inoculate that..  once its 100% you mix it with a bulk sub like (coir/verm) is the easiest..  (search damion5050 coir tek) then wait a week or 2 and fruit that..  if you use a whole 3$ brick of coir you could get ~4 ounces in a flush or 2 if you do it right...  i use horse poo in my substrate also but it involves a more detailed pasteurization but also somethin to check out..


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Re: Lots of Questions About Growing [Re: wow]
    #14408398 - 05/06/11 01:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Im very retarted for asking this, but whats a PC?


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Re: Lots of Questions About Growing [Re: shroomiin]
    #14408408 - 05/06/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man for answerin my questions, it really helps, but i saw videos of people making brown rice flour cakes, but yet they still use a pressure cooker. and if you can actually hook me up with some spores it would be really cool, i can even pay a little bit for them.


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Re: Lots of Questions About Growing [Re: bazookee]
    #14409365 - 05/06/11 10:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

check your pms.

pc = pressure cooker

you can use a  pressure cooker to sterilize every type of grow medium for this hobby (besides pasteurizeable subs), however, pf cakes are the only method possible without a pressure cooker.


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