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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Silversoul]
    #14405596 - 05/05/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just feel the US government as well as others, have had a hard time getting their story straight in the past. Whether they be lying or just half lying. I cannot really speak to any particular event.

I think confusion,disbelief and disagreement were clear intentions of the administration in playing this whole thing out.

And the media is doing exactly what the admin. want and playing their part.


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #14405602 - 05/05/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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where is the conspiracy section? someone drop me a link :happyheart:




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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #14405612 - 05/05/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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aNeway2sayHooray said:
I just feel the US government as well as others, have had a hard time getting their story straight in the past.



Agreed, but I see this as a sign of confusion, rather than lying.  When they've flat-out lied, such as with the WMD's in Iraq, they've stuck to their story pretty consistently.


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: PreparationH]
    #14405624 - 05/05/11 02:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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If you pay me money I'll spew bullshit to you over the phone about how the moon isn't really there and it's just a painting on the ceiling of the snow globe we're in controlled by the reptilian overlords that is, McDonald's




OMG A CONSPIRACY! I JUST REALIZED IT!! :what:


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Silversoul]
    #14405644 - 05/05/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The fact that there is so much confusion about the details actually reinforces the fact that this was not some fabricated lie.  These sort of conflicting reports are normal in a case where something significant has happened and the facts are still coming in.  It's called the fog of war.  If, on the other hand, the administration was just going to flat-out lie about the whole thing, you'd think they would get their story straight ahead of time.





this same exact thing happened to hitler. they found his body and he was shot in the fact. they took a shit black and white photo and not even from up close. in the photo he looked just like a clone. within 3 days they had cremated his body, and thrown his ashes over the river by Stalingrad, forgot the name of it.


no one questioned if it was a conspiracy, that he was still alive etc.

why with bin laden are people so conspiracy freakish? he is dead, whether he died recently, or 4 years ago, the fact is he is dead and they have a picture showing his face with 1000 bullet holes in it, pancaked on the floor. w/e i mean, i'm just saying no one knows when he died, how he died, but pretty sure he is dead. idk


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Silversoul]
    #14405703 - 05/05/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I see what you mean.


I just dont see the confusion as proof that part of the story is true.  What I can believe is that he had long outlived his purpose to this country and had one final contract to fullfill,his death. His death being the last usefull thing the US government could get out of him.

On to the next one.


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #14405721 - 05/05/11 02:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i believe that, i just don't believe his death was faked, that he is out there 'chilling' somewhere.

hey does anyone ever have to go back and reread over several pages to miss things that were replied to? this thread moves so fast, and to me just reading this one page doesn't justify what people have said over this entire thread.

just wondering


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #14405752 - 05/05/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The reasons for not releasing the photos just don't make sense, or are very hypocritical / contradictory.  The administration says that they do not want to turn Bin Laden into a martyr.  Ok, so why announce his death at all then?  Does the administration really think that to let the world know that they killed him will not make a martyr of him to a lesser extent than would releasing a couple of pictures?  Like the borderline fanatic is like "oh, yeah they killed bin laden...that sucks what are you going to do" and then a photograph comes out and they'd be like "OMG KILL THE WHITE WESTERN DEVIL WTF".  Doesn't make sense. 

The administration says that releasing the pictures would be interpreted as gloating or "spiking the football" and then in the next breath Obama's out in NYC gloating and singing his own praises.

Contradictory.


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #14405868 - 05/05/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i believe that, i just don't believe his death was faked, that he is out there 'chilling' somewhere.

hey does anyone ever have to go back and reread over several pages to miss things that were replied to? this thread moves so fast, and to me just reading this one page doesn't justify what people have said over this entire thread.

just wondering




A possibility is he was already dead.

I do my best to read what Ive missed in a thread that I am regularly posting in.


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14406295 - 05/05/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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"The War on Terror will end when terror attacks end."




This is a complete oxymoron.

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ter·ror·ism

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1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.




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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #14406298 - 05/05/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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And the media is doing exactly what the admin. want and playing their part.




I'm not sure this is available outside the UK>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010mwj4
Fast forward to ~ the 131 mark

The eleven o'clock news buletin had a former cia operator,bob bare, stating that "it was a coordinated operation with the Pakistani's who actually led the ground attack on the compound"...the pakistani's didn't want to seen to be involved for their own internal political
reasons, so allowed the US (Obama) to take full credit.

this information was not repeated in subsequent news buletins.Guessing that the Home office contacted the BEEB and told them to. Shut the fuck up or else.
We will sell you off to Murdock.:evil:

The release,or not, of the photo's of the dead bin laden is a red herring to take away from the fact that they have full video of the entire operation.
Does any one realy believe that the helmet camera's suddenly stopped working just as the real event started,or,that those helmet cam's the SEALS were wearing aren't connected to a hard/flash drive to record the event, and are right now in the possesion of the White house ?

Maybe some one with more 'puter skills than i could copy the relevant part of the program i linked to above and Youtube it for posterity.


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: deucedbi9]
    #14406311 - 05/05/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Between the ridiculous "royal wedding" and this, it's starting to feel more and more like I'm living in a fucking comic book.




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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: blewmeanie]
    #14406392 - 05/05/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So the Navy SEALs are liars you mean?



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Between the ridiculous "royal wedding" and this, it's starting to feel more and more like I'm living in a fucking comic book.







No kidding, it's like a cruel reality TV show,  But minus the TV.

TV drama has become reality.

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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: unam sanctum] * 1
    #14406434 - 05/05/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't give two shits what your daddy does.  My civil liberties haven't been impacted in any way at all and I doubt yours have been.  Minor attacks?  FUCK THAT!  They wouldn't have been minor to the people Reid tried to kill.  The only reason they haven't been able to do shit is through vigilance.  The enemy sure as shit hasn't stopped trying.  They just aren't that competent, which seems to be a pretty regular feature of anything Muslims do.  Vicious fascist turds with absolutely no idea whet they are doing.  American doesn't keep the world in a perpetual state of war anymore than police departments keep murderers in business.  Get out of the fucking drum circle and wake up.  Or not, I don't give a shit.  People who believe as you do are marginal sheep.  Without sheepdogs you would be wolf food.




First of all I was noting that people like you are more in line with his/the establishments type of thinking then mine, so nice one.  Also to say our civil liberties have not been impacted is incredulous and ignorant of the facts.  Thirdly the "enemy" which are people just like us, only their homelands have been invaded, are fairly incompetent, in the sense that most damage they have caused has been to themselves, and their people, rather to to America or Europe (like I said, for the most part).  To say America is not the biggest spender on a a heavy metal military is also fucking ridiculous,....i.e.: we have to have somewhere to drop all these bombs. Next, I am not in a "drum circle" although I wish I was, I love people and music, and there is nothing wrong with that.  Lastly, calling a person with my worldview a sheep, is a cop out so you don't have to say anything meaningful or intelligent.




1.  I don't give a shit why you mentioned him.  He is not relevant.
2.  I am not at all ignorant of how my civil rights have been impacted.  I know full well that they have not been impacted at all.
3.  The enemy are not people like me.  They may be like you but they aren't at all like me.
4.  I never said America wasn't the biggest defense spender.  We have to be.  We have the most to protect and the Europeans are cowards and cheapskates.
5.  We do not bomb people because we can. 
6.  Some people are abysmally heinous murdering freakshow fucks.  I do not love those people.  I can tell the difference.
7.  There are sheep, wolves and sheepdogs.  If not for the sheepdogs people with your world view would be wolf food.


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: imachavel]
    #14406470 - 05/05/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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imachavel said:
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zappaisgod said:


I don't give two shits what your daddy does.  My civil liberties haven't been impacted in any way at all and I doubt yours have been.  Minor attacks?  FUCK THAT!  They wouldn't have been minor to the people Reid tried to kill.  The only reason they haven't been able to do shit is through vigilance.  The enemy sure as shit hasn't stopped trying.  They just aren't that competent, which seems to be a pretty regular feature of anything Muslims do.  Vicious fascist turds with absolutely no idea whet they are doing.  American doesn't keep the world in a perpetual state of war anymore than police departments keep murderers in business.  Get out of the fucking drum circle and wake up.  Or not, I don't give a shit.  People who believe as you do are marginal sheep.  Without sheepdogs you would be wolf food.





ok first of all, let me start out by saying calm the fuck down. if i made a post like this, i'd be banned, just chill out dude.




I've had plenty of bans.  I know the line.  You don't.
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really goes to show the state of how moderators are hypocrites on this forum.




Call a waaaambulance.
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zappa, i'm having a really hard time believing you don't just say what you want without considering facts in any way shape or form, just to get your opinion out there. your civil liberties haven't been effected at all? how about the price of gas going from $1.65 to almost $5? how about going to airports and having people scan you with these scanners that show you naked? that sucks man, the old airport of them scanning you then scanning you again with your shoes off etc. seemed to work fine, no idea why they put this new crap in airports.




1.  Cheap gasoline is a civil liberty? :rofl2:
2.  Flying on an airplane is a civil liberty?  :rofl2:
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it's obvious this was a war over resources.




What resources does Afghanistan have?  Have we confiscated Iraqi oil fields?
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if our job was to find bin laden, it would have been looking for him, not going to iraq etc. yeah sure saddam had been warned and warned again, umm.... for about 30 or 40 years dude, like when he poison gassed hundreds of thousands of people. i mean isn't it weird that we were the ones who went and got him out?


We and a few dozen other countries.
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being so angry at people doesn't help you zappa. look at all perspectives here. and look at our dumb ass presidents bush and obama and fucking their helpers Cheney condeleeza etc. i mean do you think the united states gives 2 fucks about anybodies freedom over there? insane




As a matter of fact I think we do.  Do you?  Do you have any idea how oppressive the people we deposed were?  I know that wasn't why we went there but damn, the Taliban and Saddam were fucking evil ass bitches.  Why do you hate women?


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14406537 - 05/05/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i wish i knew everything like you did.


but right now i'm balls deep in acid, and can't comprehend what you are saying, if i ever could. i'll be back on later tonight to finish this argument. or to start taking notes since apparently you are an encyclopedia zappa, i'll think i'll rate you 5, cuz the acid is making everything weird and luvy

then i'll delete it tomorrow, when everything makes sense.



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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14406544 - 05/05/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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As a matter of fact I think we do.  Do you?  Do you have any idea how oppressive the people we deposed were?  I know that wasn't why we went there but damn, the Taliban and Saddam were fucking evil ass bitches.  Why do you hate women?





no i think stoning a woman to death for 'allowing' herself to get raped is awesome. like i said, i'll be back later, balls deep and this conversation is weirding me out. latez


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14406626 - 05/05/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:

I don't give two shits what your daddy does.  My civil liberties haven't been impacted in any way at all and I doubt yours have been.  Minor attacks?  FUCK THAT!  They wouldn't have been minor to the people Reid tried to kill.  The only reason they haven't been able to do shit is through vigilance.  The enemy sure as shit hasn't stopped trying.  They just aren't that competent, which seems to be a pretty regular feature of anything Muslims do.  Vicious fascist turds with absolutely no idea whet they are doing.  American doesn't keep the world in a perpetual state of war anymore than police departments keep murderers in business.  Get out of the fucking drum circle and wake up.  Or not, I don't give a shit.  People who believe as you do are marginal sheep.  Without sheepdogs you would be wolf food.




First of all I was noting that people like you are more in line with his/the establishments type of thinking then mine, so nice one.  Also to say our civil liberties have not been impacted is incredulous and ignorant of the facts.  Thirdly the "enemy" which are people just like us, only their homelands have been invaded, are fairly incompetent, in the sense that most damage they have caused has been to themselves, and their people, rather to to America or Europe (like I said, for the most part).  To say America is not the biggest spender on a a heavy metal military is also fucking ridiculous,....i.e.: we have to have somewhere to drop all these bombs. Next, I am not in a "drum circle" although I wish I was, I love people and music, and there is nothing wrong with that.  Lastly, calling a person with my worldview a sheep, is a cop out so you don't have to say anything meaningful or intelligent.




1.  I don't give a shit why you mentioned him.  He is not relevant.
2.  I am not at all ignorant of how my civil rights have been impacted.  I know full well that they have not been impacted at all.
3.  The enemy are not people like me.  They may be like you but they aren't at all like me.
4.  I never said America wasn't the biggest defense spender.  We have to be.  We have the most to protect and the Europeans are cowards and cheapskates.
5.  We do not bomb people because we can. 
6.  Some people are abysmally heinous murdering freakshow fucks.  I do not love those people.  I can tell the difference.
7.  There are sheep, wolves and sheepdogs.  If not for the sheepdogs people with your world view would be wolf food.





1.  You're being a douche
2. Whether you know it or not they have.
3. That's a good example of you being a douche again, only slightly more so.
4.  Oh you are so right baby.
5.  Then why? Because we have an infatuation with death?
6.  I don't argue this but neither does it compute to my above statement.
7.  You win. Please do not respond again. I AM A SHEEP ZAPPAISGOD HAS JUST OWNED UNAM.  TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS.  HE IS SUPERIOR TO ME.  I COULD NEVER EVEN HOPE TO HAVE HIS COCK IN MY MOUTH.

There you go man.

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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: unam sanctum]
    #14406661 - 05/05/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

holy shit, i'm actually coming back from this. my friend was right to tell me that the hit i took was pretty strong, and i should only take half. lucky i have another half to take whenever i want, and  a bigger half than that.


i was seeing some pretty crazy shit. hey, i'll be back in a few hours, still pretty PSYCHED, get it PSYCHedelicED?

heheh :shrug:


god damn, alright we'll talk about civil liberties in the lnc then i guess. have fun.


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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: PreparationH] * 3
    #14406682 - 05/05/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The worst part about these nutjobs is after listening to them spew retarded lies you find out 99% of them don't vote





would you rather they did vote?

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