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Invisiblethekev333

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I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed???
    #14406270 - 05/05/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yes...I am a noob...I was feeling like i was really going the right direction and doing all the right things for my latest attempt at growing but now I'm feeling like I've made a huge error and I may need to start over again.  I got some tyvek envelopes and cut em so I could put them on my quart jars that I have rye grain in.  For whatever reason I believed two days ago that I should put them under the metal lid (which I turned upside down and then screwed the band on and loosened).. I then covered in foil and PCd em.  I have four small holes in the metal lid and I just went through one of them on each jar with a syringe to noc em.  I did it inside a still air box.  I still have the foil covering everything ( which I also read is not needed but I did'nt have micropore tape so when I nocd em I just kinda lifted the foil while jars were inside my SAB and then put the foil back on tight.  The bands are still loose though which I know is an old technique but is supposed to allow air exchange in the jar ....needless to say...I won't be using this routine ever again...I've read a hell of alot in the past few days and I'll be getting filter disks now and using them.  So my question...Should I just throw these out and start over? It seems like contams shouldn't be a problem because I cant see how anything got in after sterlization.  I have read that moisture that collects on the tyvek may be an issue though and somehow cause contams.  Any help is appreciated...and if anyone is thinking to themselves...Man...how can a guy F up a lid that bad I understand...I'm thinking the same thing right now..haha


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Re: I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed??? [Re: thekev333]
    #14406294 - 05/05/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Are you doing PF tek?  I wouldn't throw them out, if you have your top layer of verm in there it should turn out fine.  I would just leave em alone for a week and see how they turn out.  Just don't go flipping em all over the place cause the verm will shift and you might get some contams dropped on your cakes.

I would be a bit more worried if you were doing grains tho, cause you wouldn't have that top verm barrier.


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Invisiblethekev333

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Re: I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed??? [Re: diegotheslinger]
    #14406308 - 05/05/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not doing pf tek...I did the PF tek with success a couple years back and now I am kinda trying to take teh next step...These are rye that I want to spawn to coir and probably place in monotubs...So I most definetly will have to shake the jars at some point to loosen the grain and help teh mycelium spread.  I still consider myself a noob although I have just a bit of experience....I mean...look at the dumbass mistake I made....of course I'm still a noob. ha


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Re: I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed??? [Re: diegotheslinger]
    #14406309 - 05/05/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think if you draped the tyvek over the threads of the jar, placed the lid, then screwed the ring over it, your good IMHO

But I'm just a noob givin' another noob my $.02


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Re: I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed??? [Re: nynole]
    #14406402 - 05/05/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I did wbs jars with tyvek with the lid on top and right side up with a 1/4" hole stuffed with poly-fill. they turned out fine


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Re: I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed??? [Re: thekev333]
    #14406666 - 05/05/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I still have the foil covering everything ( which I also read is not needed but I did'nt have micropore tape so when I nocd em I just kinda lifted the foil while jars were inside my SAB and then put the foil back on tight.




That was a far worse screwup than putting the tyvek under the lid.  You want the tyvek on top of the lid so it stays dry, but it's not a deal-killer either way.  However, leaving the foil on definitely causes the tyvek to get wet and a wet filter will allow bacteria to colonize right through it.  Always remove the foil when you remove the jars from the PC and don't put it back on again.
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Re: I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed??? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14406717 - 05/05/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Don't feel bad, I also have 6 wbs pint sized jars colonizing right now with the tyvek under the lid. I didn't know any different until this thread. I'm also a noob. I have micropore tape on my hole though so I'm hoping it will be fine. I just spawned 2 jars to coir and they were fine.


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Re: I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed??? [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14406781 - 05/05/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I actually just read a post from fooman the trusted cultivator and he does it the exact same way I do so as long as you out micropore tape over the innoc holes after you innoc then you should be fine. thanks to fooman I now know.


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Invisiblethekev333

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Re: I put tyvek under metal lid....Am I screwed??? [Re: monkey_massacre]
    #14406905 - 05/05/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Cool...thanks everyone...now I know better...heading to the store tommorow to get micropore tape.  Ya live and ya learn I guess.


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