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Todcasil
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: teamkiller]
#15548559 - 12/21/11 12:52 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love how saucy everyone gets about their imaginary heroes and villains. 
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teamkiller
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: Todcasil]
#15548634 - 12/21/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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arguing is one of my passions in life. Also, i had alot of sauce to eat today.
Really though, the scale of these two characters is totally out of wack.
Gandolf has trouble beating the bad guy of one world. Darth vader is like chief badguy for a whole galaxy of wizard type people.
Darth vader can just kind of know things because he's directly in tune with the cosmos, gandolf spends hundreds of years looking for a ring.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: teamkiller]
#15548648 - 12/21/11 01:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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teamkiller said: arguing is one of my passions in life. Also, i had alot of sauce to eat today.
Really though, the scale of these two characters is totally out of wack.
Gandolf has trouble beating the bad guy of one world. Darth vader is like chief badguy for a whole galaxy of wizard type people.
Darth vader can just kind of know things because he's directly in tune with the cosmos, gandolf spends hundreds of years looking for a ring.
You don't know what you are talking about. In Tolkien's world Gandalf is A GOD. One of the Maiar.
Vader is a little turd.
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teamkiller
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: Grizvok]
#15548659 - 12/21/11 01:32 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gandolf is a lesser spirit with finite exsistence. If we're just throwing the god designation out there, i think vader is a hell of a lot closer to a god than gandolf.
ancestry doesn't matter in this case. In all instances, gandolf displays no great powers, and has trouble with foes that vader would laugh at, or more likely not even think about.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: teamkiller]
#15548703 - 12/21/11 01:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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teamkiller said: Gandolf is a lesser spirit with finite exsistence. If we're just throwing the god designation out there, i think vader is a hell of a lot closer to a god than gandolf.
ancestry doesn't matter in this case. In all instances, gandolf displays no great powers, and has trouble with foes that vader would laugh at, or more likely not even think about.
Your ignorance of Tolkien's world is funny. You have to know both characters to pass judgement hmmmm? Gandalf is a legitimate GOD that's origins are Valinor. The Balrog was an extremely powerful demon from the old world and it is supposed to be easy to kill? Sauron is a god-spirit as well and thus it would make sense that Gandalf would be hard fought to defeat him.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: Grizvok]
#15548726 - 12/21/11 02:00 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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gandolf doesn't defeat sauron, sauron being a legitamate bro.
you're throwing the term GOD around like its supposed to impress anyone. god is a fancy term for better than human.
In the tolkien world, there is 1 god, then a bunch of angel dudes, then some things that are below the angel dudes and above elves.
So yeah, i understand exactly the heirachy, i read all the books and all that.
You're letting flowery language cloud your reasoning.
When you get right down to it, shitty normal humans with no obvious magic kill things like nazgul and dragons and blah blah blah. If gandolf can't even do some of the stuff shitty normal humans can do, why would i be impressed.
In fact, please point to me anywhere in any of the books where gandolf does something impressive. Sorry, but like i quoted above, some bullshit about a couple days of thunder and steam don't exactly impress me. (edit: His one good battle he DIES and has to be ressurected by the 1 true god. lolololol)
you need to go back and read the similarian again, the malinar or whatever the name get murdered and then are gone, dead. yeah they live a long time, but having some really shitty magical powers and living a long time doesn't count as a god to me.
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meanwhile, The jedi exhibit way more magic powers than are seen in lord of the rings. They tap directly into the fabric universe. like i said, gandolf can't even find THE MOST IMPORTANT RING EVER, for HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
jedi just know shit, because they're one with the universe. They can see the immediate and distant future, and use it.
lets replace the word jedi with wizards.
instead of just one shitty planet, in a whole GALAXY of WIZARDS, darth vader is one of the most badass WIZARDS. he killed a good chunk of all the other WIZARDS.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: teamkiller]
#15548971 - 12/21/11 04:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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While I'm a huge LOTR fan, I'm also a Star Wars dork. I think Vader in his prime would unquestionably destroy Gandalf. Vader was the Chosen One. Gandalf's powers are nothing compared to the ultimate Sith lord.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: teamkiller]
#15549021 - 12/21/11 04:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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teamkiller said: Gandolf is a lesser spirit with finite exsistence. If we're just throwing the god designation out there, i think vader is a hell of a lot closer to a god than gandolf.
Vader isn't a god, he's just some faggot kid from a desert planet.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#15549030 - 12/21/11 05:03 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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teamkiller still makes the best argument for Vader beating Gandalf. And whoever mentioned Tom Bombadil, he could take them both for sure
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: MorphinTime]
#15549043 - 12/21/11 05:10 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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MorphinTime said: teamkiller still makes the best argument for Vader beating Gandalf. And whoever mentioned Tom Bombadil, he could take them both for sure
Tom Bombadil is the Witch-King of Angmar. Mind = blown.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#15549055 - 12/21/11 05:14 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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mongo lloyd said:
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MorphinTime said: teamkiller still makes the best argument for Vader beating Gandalf. And whoever mentioned Tom Bombadil, he could take them both for sure
Tom Bombadil is the Witch-King of Angmar. Mind = blown.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#15549062 - 12/21/11 05:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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mongo lloyd said: Tom Bombadil is the Witch-King of Angmar. Mind = blown.
Source? I don't remember it being mentioned exactly who Tom Bombadil actually was, I think Tolkien kept him a mysterious character.
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: MorphinTime]
#15549068 - 12/21/11 05:20 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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MorphinTime said:
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mongo lloyd said: Tom Bombadil is the Witch-King of Angmar. Mind = blown.
Source? I don't remember it being mentioned exactly who Tom Bombadil actually was, I think Tolkien kept him a mysterious character.
It's just a bullshit theory don't worry.
If Tom was the Witch King then why didn't he take the ring when he was offered it by Frodo?
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: MorphinTime]
#15549071 - 12/21/11 05:21 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#15549081 - 12/21/11 05:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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stupid thread.
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Mad_Larkin

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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: casket]
#15549089 - 12/21/11 05:29 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#15549092 - 12/21/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: i have super aids
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: casket]
#15549096 - 12/21/11 05:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: Sleepwalker]
#15551618 - 12/21/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sleepwalker said: Oh, right you are. I wonder if Vader could use force mind control on Gandalf? 
Nah that only works on the feeble minded
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Re: Who is stronger, Gandalf or Darth Vader? [Re: Doc_T]
#15551645 - 12/21/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I voted Gandalf, but I did so thinking I was voting for Ganondorf. Oops.
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